Esb strike

maxamillius

Need clarification,is it just that they will not be there if a power cut does happen or is it that they are flicking off the grid?

tomdempsey200

maxamillius wrote: »

Need clarification,is it just that they will not be there if a power cut does happen or is it that they are flicking off the grid?

they won't be flicking off the grid anyhow:pac:

i'm no lawyer but i highly doubt that's legal

2011

If they go on strike many people will be without power. That is for sure.

We have been testing our generators on site for the past few weeks to ensure no impact on production.

The panel builder that I use told me that there has been a surge in requests for generator change over switches. I am due to install 2 generators in the next 2 weeks.

maxamillius

Gonna be a pain in the ass have to stock up on ready made bottles and Milton for the baba!
Due to test the gennie on load in work that day anyway so no day off for me!

2011

tomdempsey200 wrote: »

they won't be flicking off the grid anyhow:pac:

We will know very soon.

"Minister for Energy Pat Rabbitte asked the LRC to intervene last night in the ongoing dispute which is threatening electricity supplies in the run up to Christmas"

i'm no lawyer but i highly doubt that's legal

Unlike the gardaí and the army ESB workers can go on strike if they so choose without breaking any law.

tomdempsey200

2011 wrote: »

We will know very soon.

"Minister for Energy Pat Rabbitte asked the LRC to intervene last night in the ongoing dispute which is threatening electricity supplies in the run up to Christmas"



Unlike the gardaí and the army ESB workers can go on strike if they so choose without breaking any law.

you seem to have misread my post

Healy Rae Permit Holder

Since ye are talking about generators and power being turned off a real possibility now, would it be a big job to put in a transfer switch so when the power goes out the generator comes on and switches off then when power comes back on automatically?

2011

tomdempsey200 wrote: »

you seem to have misread my post

Sorry about that, please explain.

2011

Healy Rae Permit Holder wrote: »

Since ye are talking about generators and power being turned off a real possibility now, would it be a big job to put in a transfer switch so when the power goes out the generator comes on and switches off then when power comes back on automatically?

Generators are available that have a control panel built onto them that will do exactly that. Naturally these units are far more expensive and are not normally used in domestic installations. To answer your question, no they are not very difficult to install.

myIdea

maxamillius wrote: »

Need clarification,is it just that they will not be there if a power cut does happen or is it that they are flicking off the grid?

While on strike ( the picket line ), no matter for how long a period ( hours maybe ), stations unattended will have their power switched off for safety reasons.

machiavellianme

EirGrid control the grid and they aren't going on strike. The non-ESB IPPs who produce power will be available (Bord Gais, Veridian, Dublin Bay, Edenderry peat, Tynagh, wind farms etc). Also EWIC and the plant in Northern Ireland will be available.
Just pray for a windy day. Above 800MWs and we could be ok with minimal impact.

Healy Rae Permit Holder

machiavellianme wrote: »

EirGrid control the grid and they aren't going on strike. The non-ESB IPPs who produce power will be available (Bord Gais, Veridian, Dublin Bay, Edenderry peat, Tynagh, wind farms etc). Also EWIC and the plant in Northern Ireland will be available.
Just pray for a windy day. Above 800MWs and we could be ok with minimal impact.

This is good news, i will be ok so as i live beside a wind farm and they be going most days.

2011

machiavellianme wrote: »

EirGrid control the grid and they aren't going on strike. The non-ESB IPPs who produce power will be available (Bord Gais, Veridian, Dublin Bay, Edenderry peat, Tynagh, wind farms etc). Also EWIC and the plant in Northern Ireland will be available.

That is simply not enough.

There is now a serious threat of power cuts across the country this December after unions at ESB announced that they will serve notice of industrial action.

If the strike goes ahead as planned sections of the grid will be switched off.
Different sections of the grid will be powered down at different times to "share the pain".

Just pray for a windy day. Above 800MWs and we could be ok with minimal impact.

That will make almost no difference.

From the most recent data available (October 2013) just 0.475 out of 2.23TWh of our electricity demands were from renewables.

This equates to just 21.3% and includes hydro power generation.

2011

Healy Rae Permit Holder wrote: »

This is good news, i will be ok so as i live beside a wind farm and they be going most days.

No, it simply does not work like that.
If the planned action goes ahead and it is "your turn" to have your section of the grid switched off you will be without power, simple as that.
There will be no special treatment for people that happen to live close to any type of turbine (unless you own a generator).

Healy Rae Permit Holder

Do the public know yet how long power will be off in the day and will we know what days they will be? it is going to cause a lot of stress to everyone, i am ok i have a generator but my neighbour who is a farmer is getting very stressed as he has to milk cows, he needs power all the time for his milk cooling, electric fence and well pump.

2011

Healy Rae Permit Holder wrote: »

Do the public know yet how long power will be off in the day and will we know what days they will be? it is going to cause a lot of stress to everyone, i am ok i have a generator but my neighbour who is a farmer is getting very stressed as he has to milk cows, he needs power all the time for his milk cooling, electric fence and well pump.

I don't know.

From what I hear on the radio they seem to be talking in terms of hours off at a time.

Healy Rae Permit Holder

2011 wrote: »

I don't know.

From what I hear on the radio they seem to be talking in terms of hours off at a time.

If we knew in advance we could alter plans around the cuts, surely they will have to give prior notice? they cant just turn off the power and let us not knowing how long it be off for.

maxamillius

Personally I think it's an absolute disgrace that they are planning this,it should not be allowed to go ahead,yes I feel sorry for them for losing some of there pensions,but what about everyone else in the country that lost there jobs and have no pensions what so ever,as far as I'm concerned they can put up and shut up,sick of people moaning about stuff like this when there are always people less fortunate!ridiculous carry on by the esb workers,who might I add are highly paid for what they do!
Rant over

2011

Those who wish to debate the proposal by ESB workers to strike please do so on another forum. There is a thread here for that.

There is no problem discussing how to deal with the impact or what the impact might be on this forum.

Thanks

maxamillius

2011 wrote: »

Those who wish to debate the proposal by ESB workers to strike please do so on another forum. There is a thread here for that.

There is no problem discussing how to deal with the impact or what the impact might be on this forum.

Thanks

No probs

davidmaguire_

What will be the story in relation to schools, will they stay open if they have no power?

2011

davidmaguire_ wrote: »

What will be the story in relation to schools, will they stay open if they have no power?

In my opinion, they would have to close.
Insurance companies would not permit it for a start.

davidmaguire_

Well its a great year to do the Leaving Cert teacher strike threats and now esb

dingding

When it happened previously in the 80's they had the country divided into zones and each zone was powered down to a timetable so it would have been possible to know when you had no power.

I presume eirgrid can control all the transmissions stations remotely so it should be a relatively simple task to organise.

Healy Rae Permit Holder

In towns and cities simple things like traffic lights wont be working, there wont be enough man power to manually control traffic.

ted1

It'll be interesting to see if they call in the DSU sites.

I'm doing a thesis on smart grid controlled appliances and have calculated that there's 480mw being used by domestic fridges and freezers in Ireland. If the grid could control them that's an extra 480mw to play with for an hour or two.

A smart grid would really help out

ted1

Will a gas boiler work without electricity ?

I can't imagine it.

Healy Rae Permit Holder

ted1 wrote: »

Will a gas boiler work without electricity ?

I can't imagine it.

I read in another forum it wont, needs power for a pump.

Seamus1964

We all gonna die..no electricity..schools closed..traffic lights do'nt work...total chaos..zombies (high possibility)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XVeYwHJJq8

Bruthal

If it rains while the power is off, the entire country will come to a stop.

Bruthal

ted1 wrote: »

Will a gas boiler work without electricity ?

I can't imagine it.

No, won't work at all. Neither will oil fired boilers.

Bruthal

Healy Rae Permit Holder wrote: »

I read in another forum it wont, needs power for a pump.

Needs 230v for pump, motorised valves, gas ignitor, timer, control circuit boards in the boiler etc.

.G.

Strike off

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/1208/491561-esb-unions-pension/

danjo-xx

superg wrote: »

Strike off

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/1208/491561-esb-unions-pension/

Should never have been on:(