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newjabba

1. What is your budget? [€500]

2. What will be the main purpose of the computer? [Gaming//Internet]

3. Do you need a copy of Windows? yes
4. Can you use any parts from an old computer?
no
5. Do you need a monitor? NO

5b. If no, what resolution is your current monitor and do you plan to upgrade in the near future? not sure , using a tv walker tv wp19 led v2

6. Do you need any of these peripherals? NO

7. Are you willing to try overclocking? Yes

8. How can you pay. Laser/credit card

9. When are you purchasing? ASAP

10. If you need help building it, where are you based? No
buying from www.pcspecialist.co.uk really just need to know what the best config for a desktop would be. thanks

Shiminay

Why on earth are you buying it from them? Horribly overpriced and underwhelming. Your €500 would probably go an awful lot further on HWVS or even Amazon.

newjabba

im buying from them as i need it by xmas and they said they could deliver. didnt think hwvs would make it in time and i wouldnt even know where to start on amazon as i havent had a proper pc in over a decade and really dont know what im looking for. i need 2 of them for my 2 boys so if you know of something on amazon i could trust id be very grateful reckon i could build it myself as im sure its easier than last time i built one years ago thanks for the reply

Scirpt

newjabba wrote: »

im buying from them as i need it by xmas and they said they could deliver. didnt think hwvs would make it in time and i wouldnt even know where to start on amazon as i havent had a proper pc in over a decade and really dont know what im looking for. i need 2 of them for my 2 boys so if you know of something on amazon i could trust id be very grateful reckon i could build it myself as im sure its easier than last time i built one years ago thanks for the reply

If the parts are in stock on HWVS you'll have it in 4-5 working days. And payment by bank transfer takes 1-3 working days (1 for me). And you'll save about €100-€200 on each PC.

newjabba

that would be great just a bit nervous about missing something i need for the build like thermal paste etc.. would anybody be kind enough to recommend a list of parts? meanwhile i shall search the forum and see if there is anything close to what im looking for. just nervous about missing out a part etc

Scirpt

newjabba wrote: »

that would be great just a bit nervous about missing something i need for the build like thermal paste etc.. would anybody be kind enough to recommend a list of parts? meanwhile i shall search the forum and see if there is anything close to what im looking for. just nervous about missing out a part etc

Thermal paste is pre-applied on the stock intel fans. Aftermarket coolers require you to apply it but they are only needed for overclocks.
There's plenty of great guides on youtube to help you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPIXAtNGGCw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPHCBWayEsY
And plenty more (Search for one with your motherboard or case for example)

I recently built one just by following the guides and got on great so I'm sure with your past experience you'd be fine.

newjabba

was looking at this build , i have taken the second optical drive off as i dont think i need it? it doesnt have a graphics card so i should probably spend the rest on that? also any other criticism would be most helpful

Scirpt

newjabba wrote: »

was looking at this build , i have taken the second optical drive off as i dont think i need it? it doesnt have a graphics card so i should probably spend the rest on that? also any other criticism would be most helpful

Forget to link?

newjabba

lol yeah sorry http://www.hardwareversand.de/pcconfigurator.jsp?pcConfigurator.ram.ram.0=72301:3002

Scirpt

newjabba wrote: »

lol yeah sorry http://www.hardwareversand.de/pcconfigurator.jsp?pcConfigurator.ram.ram.0=72301:3002

Your build doesn't show up, just a list of suggestion PC builds. Try using speedcap or gyazo or upload it to imgur.

newjabba

sorry that took a while to figure out lol hope this works http://gyazo.com/33fe864b05f96ad010e7f92941000dcb and http://gyazo.com/06af594e4d384bdb0ab27a3ec66ef026 comes to e377.64

newjabba

AMD A6-6400K APU mit AMD Radeon HD 8470D Grafik, Box mit Lüfter, FM2 Processor
MSI FM2-A75MA-P33, FM2, mATX Motherboard - micro ATX
8GB-Kit G-Skill RipJaws PC3-12800U CL9 ram
Compucase 6T18 schwarz 350W ,temp-geregelt, mATX case
ASUS HD7870-DC2-2GD5 V2, AMD Radeon HD 7870, 2GB, PCI-Express graphics card
Seagate Barracuda 7200 1000GB, SATA 6Gb/s hard drive
LG GH24NS bare schwarz dvd
ASUS PCE-N15 network adapter
so this is what im looking at for E487.09 . Ive saved some money by not getting an operating system as it looks like i can download a trial on my old pc and burn a dvd,at least i hope i can! will get a validation code in january. also getting them to build as its only E5 extra. Does this look ok or is there anything i should change? just want them to be able to download off steam and play new games as they love their c.o.d etc but also want to play pc games like kerbal space program etc, as an example would this be ok for skyrim? doesnt have to be on high settings as long as it plays smoothly , thanks in advance

Scirpt

newjabba wrote: »

AMD A6-6400K APU mit AMD Radeon HD 8470D Grafik, Box mit Lüfter, FM2 Processor
MSI FM2-A75MA-P33, FM2, mATX Motherboard - micro ATX
8GB-Kit G-Skill RipJaws PC3-12800U CL9 ram
Compucase 6T18 schwarz 350W ,temp-geregelt, mATX case
ASUS HD7870-DC2-2GD5 V2, AMD Radeon HD 7870, 2GB, PCI-Express graphics card
Seagate Barracuda 7200 1000GB, SATA 6Gb/s hard drive
LG GH24NS bare schwarz dvd
ASUS PCE-N15 network adapter
so this is what im looking at for E487.09 . Ive saved some money by not getting an operating system as it looks like i can download a trial on my old pc and burn a dvd,at least i hope i can! will get a validation code in january. also getting them to build as its only E5 extra. Does this look ok or is there anything i should change? just want them to be able to download off steam and play new games as they love their c.o.d etc but also want to play pc games like kerbal space program etc, as an example would this be ok for skyrim? doesnt have to be on high settings as long as it plays smoothly , thanks in advance

Yeah that GPU would run Skyrim on ultra easily. And you can get a Windows 7 OEM for only €40-€50 on Amazon.

newjabba

excellent , thanks for the help, one more thing, if i did this all thru geizhals.de to save the extra i presume i would build it myself but do you think it would affect the delivery time? with xmas coming im on a tight schedule

Scirpt

newjabba wrote: »

excellent , thanks for the help, one more thing, if i did this all thru geizhals.de to save the extra i presume i would build it myself but do you think it would affect the delivery time? with xmas coming im on a tight schedule

Not sure what you mean. Would building it yourself affect delivery time? Or using geizhals? Geizhals won't slow it down at all you just get everything a bit cheaper.

newjabba

yeah i meant thru geizhals , thats great , thanks for the help, youve made my wallet a whole lot happier

Scirpt

newjabba wrote: »

yeah i meant thru geizhals , thats great , thanks for the help, youve made my wallet a whole lot happier

No problem. Yeah only thing about geizhals is you can't get it built by them but everyone recommends to do it yourself and it's enjoyable!

newjabba

oops i think i forgot to add a power supply???

Scirpt

newjabba wrote: »

oops i think i forgot to add a power supply???

Here :P

Scirpt

Oh your case has a built in PSU. Don't get that they are usually cheap junk. Something like this case and that PSU would be good. And save yourself a tenner with this RAM that is less fancy looking :P

Scirpt

Just did the build up there with the new parts I mentioned, comes to €504 without Geizhals so you should be just under 500 with Geizhals and Postage.

Text form:
Seagate Barracuda 7200 1000GB, SATA 6Gb/s

AMD A6-6400K APU mit AMD Radeon HD 8470D Grafik, Box mit Lüfter, FM2

MSI FM2-A75MA-P33, FM2, mATX

Samsung SH-118AB schwarz

ASUS HD7870-DC2-2GD5 V2, AMD Radeon HD 7870, 2GB, PCI-Express

ASUS PCE-N15

Zalman Z3 Midi-Tower - schwarz, ohne Netzteil

be quiet! SYSTEM POWER 7 500W - bulk -

8GB-Kit G.Skill PC3-10667U CL9

newjabba

nice thanks, only problem i got there is the power supply is not in stock

Scirpt

newjabba wrote: »

nice thanks, only problem i got there is the power supply is not in stock

For me everything that was out of stock came back in 1-2 days but you can go for corsair 500w or sharkoon wpm500 to name a few.

newjabba

nice, that built in power supply was only 350w so im glad you noticed that

Scirpt

newjabba wrote: »

nice, that built in power supply was only 350w so im glad you noticed that

Yeah and it probably wouldn't even be a legit 350w either :P

PSU definitely the last place you want to cheap out on!

Wossack

I wouldn't be recommending hwvs if you need it urgently - stock is a bit of an issue with them imo.. They only start picking for the order once funds have landed in their account, which can take a few days. In which time who knows how stock levels will have changed

newjabba

i want it for xmas so gives them at least 2 weeks to deliver???

Scirpt

newjabba wrote: »

i want it for xmas so gives them at least 2 weeks to deliver???

For me I paid on Monday evening with AIB bank transfer by going into the branch inatead of doing it online (Not sure if if this speeds it up). Payment was received Tuesday morning and posted at about 4PM. It arrived in Dublin on Friday morning. If you're in a rural area like me it will most likely take an extra day.

marco_polo

Scirpt wrote: »

Just did the build up there with the new parts I mentioned, comes to €504 without Geizhals so you should be just under 500 with Geizhals and Postage.

Text form:
Seagate Barracuda 7200 1000GB, SATA 6Gb/s

AMD A6-6400K APU mit AMD Radeon HD 8470D Grafik, Box mit Lüfter, FM2

MSI FM2-A75MA-P33, FM2, mATX

Samsung SH-118AB schwarz

ASUS HD7870-DC2-2GD5 V2, AMD Radeon HD 7870, 2GB, PCI-Express

ASUS PCE-N15

Zalman Z3 Midi-Tower - schwarz, ohne Netzteil

be quiet! SYSTEM POWER 7 500W - bulk -

8GB-Kit G.Skill PC3-10667U CL9

If you can only spend about €50-60 on a processor you be better off with a Haswell pentium than the A6 APU. Its a better CPU and much more upgradeable than FM2 will be in years to come.

http://www.hardwareversand.de/Socket+1150/101645/Intel+Pentium+G3220+Box%2C+LGA1150.article

http://www.hardwareversand.de/DDR3/127051/ASRock+H81M-GL%2C+Sockel+1150%2C+mATX.article

TerrorFirmer

Yeah I was going to post saying don't get the 6400k, really bad CPU for games. You can save another 20 quid on that 7870, there are plenty other good models for 150-160 on the same site. CPU wise, I would get an Fx6300, its worth going over budget for in the interests of having a well rounded machine. Even if it means only getting 4gb ram for now and adding another 4 down the line if you cannot afford the extra cost. Adding another 4gb of ram is painless. Having to swap out the CPU is much more of a hassle and ideally, the core of every new build should be a decent CPU in my opinion.

TerrorFirmer

It's also possible to save another 10-15 euro on PSU with something like this, still reliable and plenty for a 7870 build.

newjabba

so i got the pcs, but now i cant get graphics card working on either pc , have posted a new thread but dont know if this is gonna get sorted for xmas. stressed!!