Does anyone else feel the welfare gives too much in this country?

BetterThanThou

Now, I'm not going to say welfare shouldn't exist, because welfare does definitely have a part in society for people who truly need it. But I know of people who work nearly every day of the week and are on call 24/7 who live less comfortably than people on the welfare, surely it shouldn't be like this? Sure, some people cannot work and need the welfare to survive, but I know of people on the welfare, people who have been living off the welfare for as long as I remember who manage to chain smoke, have 50 inch tvs, Sky TV with a subscription to the sports that they don't even use. The latest and best smartphones despite having no use for it and playing no more than angry birds. Remodeling their kitchen every year. And not even thinking of looking for a job despite the fact all their kids are old enough to look after themselves or have moved out. And then you have the dole, or "jobseekers allowance" as it's also called, this is crazy, sure, I know of people on jobseekers allowance who are actually looking for jobs, and they do need something to live. but the majority of people on jobseekers allowance that I know of have absolutely no intention of looking for a job, my brother for instance is 22, and has been on the dole since he was 18. Not once has he printed out a CV, been called to an interview, done anything to look for any job at all. His job search has been asking a few relatives to let him know if they have any positions available in their businesses. He's been offered jobs before and wouldn't take them. And I have 2 cousins that do this as well, and know of many others who do the same. Aren't you supposed to provide proof you're looking for a job in order to claim the job seekers allowance? because these people I know clearly do not have any proof.

Frosty McSnowballs

Do you or have you lived off welfare?

kneemos

Dole thread eh?

Links234

No

Sorry, scratch that, the welfare it gave to the banks. because if there's something all AH'ers love to winge about it's banks and welfare, or welfare and banks.

johnnyskeleton

My eyes! Ze paragraphs zey are not working!

My name is URL

BetterThanThou wrote: »

Aren't you supposed to provide proof you're looking for a job in order to claim the job seekers allowance? because these people I know clearly do not have any proof.

How do you know what proof they do or do not have? And have you reported any of them for possible fraudulent claims? I assume not... like every other person who ever moans about the subject.

nc19

Employed person - the social give too much

Unemployed person - the social dont give enough



/thread

jamo2oo9

The biggest problem them dole signers is they have to get up early on Monday morning to get the dole from the post office before the crowd comes in.


#dolemanproblems

chopper6

You can live very well on welfare....permanantly.

Sir Humphrey Appleby

And we're off!

nc19

jamo2oo9 wrote: »

The biggest problem them dole signers is they have to get up early on Monday morning to get the dole from the post office before the crowd comes in.


#dolemanproblems

The biggest problem for most of them is getting time of work

Conmaicne Mara

Senor Jingle Balls wrote: »

Do you or have you lived off welfare?

He's 16 so I very much doubt it.

aidan_walsh

OP just knows lots of really ****ty people.

Holsten

No, the system is fine.

The problems pop up when it is being abused.

Frosty McSnowballs

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

He's 16 so I very much doubt it.

16? Ah there's plenty of time so!

Specialun

I know people that live in a million dollar mansion and that have a lambo diablo for each day of the week and they are on the dole

phasers

The dole paid for my second house and my indoor pool

thanks suckers!

JONJO THE MISER

Being on the dole is not as easy as it seems.
You try going to sleep at 7am in the morning after being up all night and hearing nothing but noise from people going to work and bin men banging around, and dont even start me on the summer with people cutting there lawns at all hours of the afternoon.

Wattle

chopper6 wrote: »

You can live very well on welfare....permanantly.

No you can't. You can get by on welfare and even then only by budgeting very carefully.

PizzamanIRL

Username: BetterThanThou

That explains it

BetterThanThou

Senor Jingle Balls wrote: »

16? Ah there's plenty of time so!

At my age, I have already made about 3 grand(small amount of money, yes, but I'm steadily increasing my investments from the original few hundred) in the last few months via investments in a business which I have aimed to have set up by the time I'm 18 and by my estimates, as long as my business venture succeeds, which I have calculated to be very probable, I should easily have enough money to support myself quite well without any help from my parents or the welfare by the time I'm 19. So I should be grand without the welfare.

kneemos

BetterThanThou wrote: »

At my age, I have already made about 3 grand(small amount of money, yes, but I'm steadily increasing my investments from the original few hundred) in the last few months via investments in a business which I have aimed to have set up by the time I'm 18 and by my estimates, as long as my business venture succeeds, which I have calculated to be very probable, I should easily have enough money to support myself quite well without any help from my parents or the welfare by the time I'm 19. So I should be grand without the welfare.

Share in a paper round.

dirtyden

BetterThanThou wrote: »

At my age, I have already made about 3 grand(small amount of money, yes, but I'm steadily increasing my investments from the original few hundred) in the last few months via investments in a business which I have aimed to have set up by the time I'm 18 and by my estimates, as long as my business venture succeeds, which I have calculated to be very probable, I should easily have enough money to support myself quite well without any help from my parents or the welfare by the time I'm 19. So I should be grand without the welfare.

Of course you have.

AndonHandon

The basic dole payments aren't the problem; it's the allowances that are too generous and the welfare fraud that annoy me. A common fraud I see is in relation to unmarried parents who have boyfriends/girlfriends but do not disclose this to the Welfare people. No means test for child benefit is absurd.

BillyMitchel

Well let's hear your business plan! Ill invest if its worth it. No more than 1000 though. I like kids taking risks and having a bit about them. Fair play lad. I'm serious BTW. I'd also bring some skills and contacts to the table too. (Obviously depending on the business)

Mods on another note - can we not ban dole threads or allow one a month on signing on day or something? It's really really repetitive and boring at this stage.

Super-Rush

We've had this same thread week after week and I'm tired of them, my co mods are tired of them and the whole of After Hours are tired of them.

Its three weeks to Christmas so let's talk about something a bit more cheerful.