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Guerciotti Record

  • 01-12-2013 2:03pm
    #1
    clod71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 641 ✭✭✭


    Anyone has one of this Guerciotti Record they sell on Planet X?
    I'd like to get a steel bike with a retro look and this seems to be a cheap enough option, but I read the paint work is crap.
    How about feeling and performance?

    http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/i/q/FRGURE/guerciotti_record_frameset


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  • #2
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    That's a serious discount on a handmade steel frame. The lugging and brazing is beautiful.

    If I had €350 to burn I'd buy it.

    Pity they are out of stock though.


  • #3
    mistermatthew
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭mistermatthew


    clod71 wrote: »
    Anyone has one of this Guerciotti Record they sell on Planet X?
    I'd like to get a steel bike with a retro look and this seems to be a cheap enough option, but I read the paint work is crap.
    How about feeling and performance?

    http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/i/q/FRGURE/guerciotti_record_frameset

    Yeah was thinking of getting one as well earlier in the year. Beautiful frame, Planet X have none left and I was under the impression they were a once of thing and they won't have anymore in.

    Some beautiful full builds people have done online http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/files/px/rides/440x380_constW/1F1TO02U-GuerciottiRecord3a.jpg


  • #4
    clod71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 641 ✭✭✭clod71


    I called Planet X and the frames are back in mid December, hopefully at the same price they are sold at the moment.
    I suppose, even in the case the paint job was brutal, it would still be a good bargain for an italian handmade.
    Any boardie has got one?


  • #5
    clod71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 641 ✭✭✭clod71


    mistermatthew wrote: »
    Yeah was thinking of getting one as well earlier in the year. Beautiful frame, Planet X have none left and I was under the impression they were a once of thing and they won't have anymore in.

    Some beautiful full builds people have done online http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/files/px/rides/440x380_constW/1F1TO02U-GuerciottiRecord3a.jpg

    I think this one looks real class...
    http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/readers-rides/your-ride/q/301121446_aaro-liukkonen_guerciotti-record


  • #6
    Muckers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Muckers


    When you say the paint job is crap, do you mean in general, or is it just at the dropouts.


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  • #7
    clod71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 641 ✭✭✭clod71


    Muckers wrote: »
    When you say the paint job is crap, do you mean in general, or is it just at the dropouts.

    everywhere apparently.
    http://yetanothercyclingblog.blogspot.ie/2012/12/guerciotti-record.html

    I read also in many other reviews that the paint job is not great.
    Maybe it was just a bad batch of the 2012 version. This new ones could be better... hopefully.
    If you google it, you'll find other reviews on the bike.


  • #8
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    So they are rebranded FAUSTO COPPI by Masciaghi.

    So even if the paint is ****, you can get it blasted and powder coated for €100ish and still have a bargain bike.

    Hand made in Monza, should be good tack.


  • #9
    letape
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭letape


    Seaneh wrote: »
    So they are rebranded FAUSTO COPPI by Masciaghi.

    So even if the paint is ****, you can get it blasted and powder coated for €100ish and still have a bargain bike.

    Hand made in Monza, should be good tack.

    Presumably the tubing is in fact Columbus Thron... Just seems strange why they would rebrand them when Coppi frames would also be desirable.


  • #10
    clod71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 641 ✭✭✭clod71


    letape wrote: »
    Presumably the tubing is in fact Columbus Thron... Just seems strange why they would rebrand them when Coppi frames would also be desirable.

    I totally agree with you, it wouldn't bother me in fact!! And yes, you could certainly get it resprayed, even in 5 years time... The only thing I would do is to buy some decals as well and keep them away in the shed for when the time comes, but I looked in the web and found none so far.


  • #11
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    letape wrote: »
    Presumably the tubing is in fact Columbus Thron... Just seems strange why they would rebrand them when Coppi frames would also be desirable.

    Planet X aren't going to be selling fake Columbus tubes in fairness.


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  • #12
    letape
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭letape


    Seaneh wrote: »
    Planet X aren't going to be selling fake Columbus tubes in fairness.

    You also wouldn't expect them to sell Coppi frames branded as Guerciotti...

    Columbus Thron tubing was one of the lower spec Columbus models above Columbus Cromor and Aelle but below SL, SLX, TSX, EL etc iirc.


  • #13
    clod71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 641 ✭✭✭clod71


    letape wrote: »
    You also wouldn't expect them to sell Coppi frames branded as Guerciotti...

    Columbus Thron tubing was one of the lower spec Columbus models above Columbus Cromor and Aelle but below SL, SLX, TSX, EL etc iirc.

    I thought the same when I read that post on that blog... Why doing that anyway?
    As for the columbus thron, what would it make different from the higher spec ones? is it just weight or something else?


  • #14
    letape
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭letape


    clod71 wrote: »
    I thought the same when I read that post on that blog... Why doing that anyway?
    As for the columbus thron, what would it make different from the higher spec ones? is it just weight or something else?


    The higher end steel tube sets were generally lighter and stiffer. I found this (link below) before which has details of expected weight and characteristics of the different Columbus models. Thron isn't on the list through as this list seems to pre-date that. From what I have read it was a well regarded tubeset.

    http://www.equusbicycle.com/bike/columbus/columbuschart.htm


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