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407 v corolla

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭topcatcbr


    nd wrote: »

    Only if reliability is your only concern.


    The Peugeot is a far nicer car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    nd wrote: »
    so would you almost always chose the corolla?

    given the choices on offer here, most certainly the corolla, particularly if reliability is on your mind.

    the pug is a tempting car in many regards but i can't see it ageing well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,843 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    Don't forget though - theres also the option of going for a 406 instead of the 407

    Just saying - a good 2.0 HDI 406 would be a nice car.

    Yes Toyota would be more reliable - but 406 is better reliability wise then 407 (narrowing the gap)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,302 ✭✭✭Supergurrier


    Corrolla are a hateful but reliable mid sized hatch. Peogeot with the right spec is an extremely comfortable cruiser or mediocre reliability


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭Row


    407 for me...:D
    With a petrol 407's then you don't have to worry about problems like failing dmf's/dpf's/turbos/etc.
    If your after economy then the 407 will only return around the mid 30's in Mpgs so if you can live with that then you'll have a lot of car for small money..:)

    As for the corolla....there bullet proof but as bland as you get..:)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,122 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    What a weird comparison. A bit like would you have a can of beans and a glass of milk or a dozen oysters and a pint of the black stuff. The former is more reliable but I'll take the latter any time, thanks :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 Deandrumm


    If it was my choice , I'd have a Passat TDI instead of either :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭The_Honeybadger


    Old diesel wrote: »
    Don't forget though - theres also the option of going for a 406 instead of the 407

    Just saying - a good 2.0 HDI 406 would be a nice car.

    Yes Toyota would be more reliable - but 406 is better reliability wise then 407 (narrowing the gap)

    Trying to find one that isn't a total piece of s**t with intergalactic mileage would be the problem there though. Good examples are getting rarer as time passes.

    Agree that it is an odd comparison, they are in different classes and would normally not be compared. You'd be looking at a focus or Almera vs the corolla and the 407 would be compared to the likes of a Mondeo or avensis. Op if you can find a good marque II avensis 1.6 they are a good car. My parent had one for years that never gave a bother and it was very economical. I'd have one over the 407 any day of the week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,792 ✭✭✭Ded_Zebra




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Leonard Hofstadter


    Let's be honest, there is nothing special about a 407. I've travelled on them quite a few times, and I can't see what the fuss is. I mean, back in the days when Peugeot made the 406 I could totally see the point of going for the Pug over the 'rolla, partly because the 406 was a great car in its day, and mid 90s 'rollas were at best average, but that generation Corolla was a very good car, and not just because it was reliable. The 407 is generally considered to be a pretty crap replacement for the 406, and I agree. It doesn't look right and the interior is pretty naff as well. Although I've never driven one, I'm told the 407 is most certainly not the drive of your life (remember when Peugeot used that as their marketing slogan? Seems like a very, very distant memory now), in stark contrast to its predecessor, and of course the 406's predecessor was generally acknowledged to be a great car as well. I remember travelling in 405s back when I was a child (and they were still pretty new at the time) and even the turbo diesel model was a pretty nice car, for a diesel car back in those days, it was incredibly civilised. Peugeot has totally lost its mojo from those days, and has never recovered.

    As long as it wasn't a horrible poverty spec Paddy spec Corolla (especially a Terra model), I'd have it every time. The Corolla is better built, more comfortable, far more desirable and obviously will be cheaper to run and a lot more reliable. I'm far from the biggest Toyota fan, but Toyota seriously made good cars back around 8-10 years ago (just a shame Toyota Ireland made all the Paddy spec ones horrible to be in, but UK spec cars are nice). Obviously a lot of the current range are muck, but that model Corolla was as good as anything else out there on any measure except perhaps handling. If it's a UK spec, or even an Irish spec Luna from 06 onwards, the Corolla is a nice place to be with the silver effect dash - nicer than a 407 that's for sure.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭Stoolbend


    Row wrote: »
    407 for me...:D
    With a petrol 407's then you don't have to worry about problems like failing dmf's/dpf's/turbos/etc.
    If your after economy then the 407 will only return around the mid 30's in Mpgs so if you can live with that then you'll have a lot of car for small money..:)

    As for the corolla....there bullet proof but as bland as you get..:)


    I'd be afraid of the heater control flap going though.

    That's a big job on a cheap car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭hoodrats


    Ded_Zebra wrote: »


    horrible colour and creases over the wheel arch along with other marks , about 1300 euros overpriced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,792 ✭✭✭Ded_Zebra


    hoodrats wrote: »
    horrible colour and creases over the wheel arch along with other marks , about 1300 euros overpriced.

    Seeing as this one that is a year older with higher miles (but better cosmetic condition) and is €500 more I would say the price is roughly right.

    http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-t-sports/5757247

    Very hard to judge though, but it is nice and standard :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    hoodrats wrote: »
    horrible colour and creases over the wheel arch along with other marks , about 1300 euros overpriced.

    are you for real? 2800-1300=1500... you wouldn't get a 2000 1.4 previous generation corolla with NCT for that price. admittedly there is a little damage over the wheel arch, but i'd say that would help you bargain the car down another 2-300 quid (imo)

    you could do far worse for 2500 quid (e.g. the 407 posted above).

    they are a very reliable car, a nice place to be in, that colour grey would look fantastic with a wash and a polish and the 190bhp VVTLi engine is pretty lively. air con, half leather, multi function wheel, all electrics, 6 speed box. that corolla has the potential to be a smasher.

    if it had european manufacturers badge on the bonnet, loads would be blown over it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭Row


    Stoolbend wrote: »
    I'd be afraid of the heater control flap going though.

    That's a big job on a cheap car.

    Ye your right some 407s have this problem but saying that the parts are cheap enough around €70 but there's a good days work in replacing the flaps so if you have the time and patients then its not so expensive..:)

    Op....Like Stoolbend said above if your viewing the 407 and you want to make sure it hasn't this problem then check to see if you have heat on pass/drivers side at the same time when full heat is set on both zones.

    If the flaps have failed and you haggle enough you might got it for close to nothing...:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭Stoolbend


    I've seen c5's and 407's without dual zone heating break the flaps.

    Ya the parts are cheap but dash out and stripping the heater box isn't really fit for most people. It's 8 hours at garage rates.

    Just something to think about.

    They're great value besides though.


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