What would you think of the creation of human-ape hybrids?

BetterThanThou

This is a topic I'm somewhat interested in, animals which are less similar than humans and chimpanzees can be crossed, some of them which occur in the wild or are as simple as putting two parents together in captivity and letting it happen. So, it's got me thinking, a human/chimp hybrid could be a possibility, either via natural methods or by genetic engineering, though, I can see why this would be seen as unethical and is unlikely to happen, but what do you think?

Frosty McSnowballs

I want the arms of an orangutan and an ass like a baboon.

Monkey butlers? Yes, please!

Iwannahurl

Might be an improvement, though it may depend on which ape and which human get hitched.

EDIT: forget chimpanzees, they're far too violent. Go for the bonobo.

wazky

In fairness, I've rode a few ape like humaniods in my time.

_Redzer_

Why would you want to do this, what's the benefit of it?

smcgiff

BetterThanThou wrote: »

This is a topic I'm somewhat interested in, animals which are less similar than humans and chimpanzees can be crossed, some of them which occur in the wild or are as simple as putting two parents together in captivity and letting it happen. So, it's got me thinking, a human/chimp hybrid could be a possibility, either via natural methods or by genetic engineering, though, I can see why this would be seen as unethical and is unlikely to happen, but what do you think?

They are not close enough to breed naturally. I'm sure that, er, experiment has been done plenty of times.

It's probably possible to interchange some genes. Can't think of any reason - for the craic wouldn't be acceptable.

born2bwild

Bring it on!!!!

Finnt

I just knew when I voted most would be in favour!!

Karl Stein

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xat1GVnl8-k

thecatspjs

Iwannahurl wrote: »

Might be an improvement, though it may depend on which ape and which human get hitched.

EDIT: forget chimpanzees, they're far too violent. Go for the bonobo.

Horny little devils

Gran Hermano

Remember reading reports on how a wildlife charity rescued an orangutan that was found chained to a bed and used as a sex slave in Indonesia.

BillyMitchel

Humans can't stand each other. Imagine how badly a hybrid would get treated.

It really has planet of the apes all over it.

Anyone want to finish my essay? Please.

BetterThanThou

_Redzer_ wrote: »

Why would you want to do this, what's the benefit of it?

One of the reasons could be just so it's done, over the course of history humans have done a lot of science which amounted to nothing. It could also be used to advance medical research as many animals which are much less similar to humans, and likely chimpanzees have been before.

_Redzer_

BetterThanThou wrote: »

One of the reasons could be just so it's done, over the course of history humans have done a lot of science which amounted to nothing. It could also be used to advance medical research as many animals which are much less similar to humans, and likely chimpanzees have been before.

How? It's just such a stupid idea

Vincent Vega

Yes, we need to evolve to our final form.

BetterThanThou

_Redzer_ wrote: »

How? It's just such a stupid idea

For instance, sometimes pig or cow heart valves are modified and used as replacement heart valves for humans who need replacement heart valves, a human-ape hybrid could almost undoubtedly provide better replacements than a pig or a cow. And that's only one example, I'm sure someone who knows more about medical research could give you a million reasons.

BillyMitchel

There's an article that was on Reddit a while back and it was a monkey that was a brazzer in Indonesia and men used to give her one and they said she enjoyed it.

Off to Indonesia OP, fock this monkey and start your new species.

_Redzer_

BetterThanThou wrote: »

For instance, sometimes pig or cow heart valves are modified and used as replacement heart valves for humans who need replacement heart valves, a human-ape hybrid could almost undoubtedly provide better replacements than a pig or a cow. And that's only one example, I'm sure someone who knows more about medical research could give you a million reasons.

How would you cope with the ethics of that. Assuming you could make it work and got a hybrid. How would you feel about rearing it to harvest organs. Made worse if it's intelligence was made higher.

Waste of time anyway. The use of using pig and cow valves for humans is old-medical technology. It's like how insulin used to be extracted from pig pancreases before recombinant DNA technology. Those valves, among other organs are being grown synthetically and will become mainstream. Better to pour your money into that than waste it on this project that would be a complete waste of time.

Better yet, invest in regenerative medicine actually.

Rhyme

They'd be h-apes of fun.

gctest50

_Redzer_ wrote: »

How would you cope with the ethics of that. Assuming you could make it work and got a hybrid. How would you feel about rearing it to harvest organs. Made worse if it's intelligence was made higher.

Waste of time anyway. The use of using pig and cow valves for humans is old-medical technology. It's like how insulin used to be extracted from pig pancreases before recombinant DNA technology. Those valves, among other organs are being grown synthetically and will become mainstream. Better to pour your money into that than waste it on this project that would be a complete waste of time.

Better yet, invest in regenerative medicine actually.

Still available

http://www.wockhardt.co.uk/animal-insulin/index.asp

_Redzer_

gctest50 wrote: »

Still available

http://www.wockhardt.co.uk/animal-insulin/index.asp

That's so strange. There's an amino acid difference between porcine and human insulin, 3 between bovine and human insulin. It can cause immunogenicity. You'd be better off staying with recombinant human insulin.

gctest50

The r-DNA stuff is modded too

Insulin detemir differs from human insulin in that the amino acid threonine in position B30 has been omitted, and a C14 fatty acid chain has been attached to the amino acid B29. Insulin detemir has a molecular formula of C267H402O76N64S6 and a molecular weight of 5916.9..........

http://www.rxlist.com/levemir-drug.htm

_Redzer_

gctest50 wrote: »

The r-DNA stuff is modded too

That's a method to deliver the insulin differently. Our insulin fluctuates as needed when we eat, but if you're diabetic that same effect would require multiple injects, and even then the efficiency wouldn't be spot on, so you've things like this which is a long-acting analogue that maintains a sort of base level of insulin in the system, so you won't get high and low peaks, but you won't need multiple injects before every meal.

There's loads of modifications like that but the core is human insulin so it won't trigger an immune response.

Karl Stein

It'd be great because we could give them guns to fight wars for chicken-hawks, we could eat their hearts and use them as sex slaves and keep them as pets and then they'd get together to demand Humanzee rights and we'd shoot them for not knowing their place and it'd be like that film Boyz in the Hood.

RikkFlair

BillyMitchel wrote: »

Humans can't stand each other. Imagine how badly a hybrid would get treated.

It really has planet of the apes all over it.

Anyone want to finish my essay? Please.

You maniacs, you blew it up. Goddamn you all to hell!

Kikin

Personally I think this is a fantastic idea

Markx

BetterThanThou wrote: »

This is a topic I'm somewhat interested in, animals which are less similar than humans and chimpanzees can be crossed, some of them which occur in the wild or are as simple as putting two parents together in captivity and letting it happen. So, it's got me thinking, a human/chimp hybrid could be a possibility, either via natural methods or by genetic engineering, though, I can see why this would be seen as unethical and is unlikely to happen, but what do you think?

The question is would any such chimera prosper in the long run? The chimpanzee genes would become more branier, the human genes would become more strongerer - it's better for everyone.

In practical terms the more human-like beings could help the more chimpanzee-like beings cultivate peanuts and bananas and the more chimpanzee-like beings could help the more human-like beings change lightbulbs with out needing to stand on chairs.

This is a no-brainer - vote YES

camel jockey

OP, what do you think the benefits of this would be?

anncoates

Places like Longford are already full of them ?

camel jockey

OP, is this a thinly veiled 'I'd like to have intercourse with an ape' thread?

BetterThanThou

camel jockey wrote: »

OP, is this a thinly veiled 'I'd like to have intercourse with an ape' thread?

Yes, it indeed is.

diomed

Post the wedding photos here. ty.

diomed

I'm thinking GAA. Don't know why.

Ihatecuddles

Senor Jingle Balls wrote: »

I want an ass like a baboon.

To match your face??



Ooooo!!

CrazyRabbit

I'd like to cross a human with a fish. You'd end up with an amazing mutant humanoid with the skills & abilities of a fish. Holy cow, it would be like a super-hero! We could call him...Aquaman!

Best superhero ever.

Vito Corleone

_Redzer_ wrote: »

Why would you want to do this, what's the benefit of it?

Because it's cool.

endacl

Already happened OP. One example, code named 'Project W' escaped from a secret gubberment laboratree and actually served two consecutive terms as president of the US.

kumate_champ07

smcgiff wrote: »

They are not close enough to breed naturally. I'm sure that, er, experiment has been done plenty of times.

It's probably possible to interchange some genes. Can't think of any reason - for the craic wouldn't be acceptable.

think there was a town somewhere in Africa that had a female chipanzee in a shack being used a prostitute for local men. this was recent, year or 2 ago maybe. as far as I know she didnt get pregnant, or maybe they brought the freak baby into the jungle and left it, soon to be discovered

Ihatecuddles

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

think there was a town somewhere in Africa that had a female chipanzee in a shack being used a prostitute for local men. this was recent, year or 2 ago maybe. as far as I know she didnt get pregnant, or maybe they brought the freak baby into the jungle and left it, soon to be discovered

:eek: Is that what happened to Tarzan!?

feargale

BetterThanThou wrote: »

This is a topic I'm somewhat interested in, animals which are less similar than humans and chimpanzees can be crossed, some of them which occur in the wild or are as simple as putting two parents together in captivity and letting it happen. So, it's got me thinking, a human/chimp hybrid could be a possibility, either via natural methods or by genetic engineering, though, I can see why this would be seen as unethical and is unlikely to happen, but what do you think?

After you.

feargale

There was an old man in Dundee
Who lived with an ape up a tree.
The result was so horrid:
All erse and no forehead,
Three balls and a purple goatee.

Son Of A Vidic

BetterThanThou wrote: »

What would you think of the creation of human-ape hybrids?

Haven't we 166 of them already in the Dáil.

gctest50

_Redzer_ wrote: »

How would you cope with the ethics of that. Assuming you could make it work and got a hybrid. How would you feel about rearing it to harvest organs. Made worse if it's intelligence was made higher.
........

How about "converting" (on a voluntary basis bit ) prisoners on death row into some sort of chimera (tiny bit of R&D needed here)to grow replacement organs ?

Since there's a bit of a recession on, sell the "places" to the highest bidder - in no time at all there would be the iChimera

_Redzer_ wrote: »

That's so strange. There's an amino acid difference .........

Oh noes!!! don't tell the mules or the hinnys or the geeps,they'd feel left out n be all upset

http://mentalfloss.com/article/18644/geep-behold-sheep-goat-chimera

The Diabolical Monocle

Did you get her pregnant OP ?

Own up.

That was you down the supermarket buying all the bananas wasn't it.

_Redzer_

gctest50 wrote: »

How about "converting" (on a voluntary basis bit ) prisoners on death row into some sort of chimera (tiny bit of R&D needed here)to grow replacement organs ?

Since there's a bit of a recession on, sell the "places" to the highest bidder - in no time at all there would be the iChimera



Oh noes!!! don't tell the mules or the hinnys or the geeps,they'd feel left out n be all upset

Don't think you quite get how genetic engineering and recombinant DNA tech works

Killer Wench

There's a touch of irony in this subject for me. Four hundred years ago, European powers went to western Africa and decided that African tribesmen weren't quite human and not quite ape. It justified the enslavement of these lesser beings.

Duckworth_Luas

anncoates wrote: »

Places like Longford are already full of them ?

The number of humanzees in Longford accounts for the popularity of Kentucky Fried League soccer in that town then!

Killer Wench

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

The number of humanzees in Longford accounts for the popularity of Kentucky Fried League soccer in that town then!

What a second... what are you implying?

anncoates

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

The number of humanzees in Longford accounts for the popularity of Kentucky Fried League soccer in that town then!

I think you'll find that was Pat Grace's Famous Fried Chicken.

c_man

Where do you stand on human-ape hybrids?

Upright.