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query re possible child payments

  • 30-11-2013 1:43am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,585 ✭✭✭


    Please move if in wrong forun.
    I ask purely out of worry and a hypothetical situation, byt aerious answers please, lets say my lonfterm girlfriend were to become pregnant, i woukd becliable, of coyrse for certain costs, but would there be legal protection/social welfare qualifications ablw to me as atm due to the following i receive not a cent from anywhere due to whats laid out below, and id like to know whete i stand

    Im currently in second year of college, unemployed(but unable to receive social welfarw due to college & living at home) and not in receipt of a grant either..
    So im straight up flat broke.. are there supporys in place or will any possible agreement force me to even bigger lack od money..

    Felt legal discussion may be best bet to get any educated heads on this.

    Thanks.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Bepolite


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    Please move if in wrong forum.

    I ask purely out of worry and a hypothetical situation, but serious answers please, lets say my longterm girlfriend were to become pregnant, i would be liable, of course for certain costs, but would there be legal protection/social welfare qualifications able to me as at the moment due to the following: I receive not a cent from anywhere due to being in second year of college, unemployed(but unable to receive social welfare due to college & living at home) and not in receipt of a grant either.

    So I'm straight up flat broke. Are there supports in place or will any possible agreement force me to even bigger lack of money.

    Felt legal discussion may be best bet to get any educated heads on this.

    Thanks.

    I've come to the conclusion the correlation is the lack of dexterity to use a keyboard is directionally related to the ability to put on a condom. Before you moan at me for being rude, I had to fix your post so it was readable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,238 ✭✭✭Guffy


    Bepolite wrote: »
    I've come to the conclusion the correlation is the lack of dexterity to use a keyboard is directionally related to the ability to put on a condom. Before you moan at me for being rude, I had to fix your post so it was readable.

    It was readable, you're an ass

    I was in the same situation couple of years ago. I had to find a p/t job to pay my way with my son. I know its hard to find work at the moment but you just have to try should the situation arise.

    The one bit of advice I will give is finish your degree!! The child wont cost an extreme amount of money for the first couple of years. You're partner will get help from the social, you need to think of the long term. Degree and career before crèche/school has to be your goal now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,981 ✭✭✭ElleEm


    Your girlfriend would be the one recieving the social welfare supports if she was the primary carer of the child with no financial support from you.
    Child maintenance is means tested, so until you have means, you cannot pay anything. I don't think there is a system where you would "owe" money.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Bepolite


    OP get some proper guidance on this from your college counselor. If your girl friend is pregnant you need to explore all the options as a couple. It's not fair to rely on the state to bring up your child.

    You seem to be indicating that you don't intend to stay with her for the rest of your life, given you are asking about support payments. You will be liable, potentially for the next 21-23 years for support and this will be proportionate to your earnings. This should limit your future plans for starting another family, but to be blunt it doesn't seem to on the whole, perhaps you're a bit more responsible than most.

    If this is hypothetical rubber up. If it's not then get advice as a couple, get it now. This is one of the most life changing things that will happen to you, your partner and a child deserves more than to raised by one parent. That's not a slight on single parent who raise their children, but the parent that buggers off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,585 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    Bepolite wrote: »
    I've come to the conclusion the correlation is the lack of dexterity to use a keyboard is directionally related to the ability to put on a condom. Before you moan at me for being rude, I had to fix your post so it was readable.

    Right, firstly it was written off my phone at half one at night, tiredness with that small a keyboard don't bode well.
    Secondly, it was a hypothetical situation, we had a scare so I was curious re my options should something serious actually happen, so please don't be so damn rude.

    Thanks though to the other posters, assumed that was the case but was just unsure.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,585 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    Bepolite wrote: »
    OP get some proper guidance on this from your college counselor. If your girl friend is pregnant you need to explore all the options as a couple. It's not fair to rely on the state to bring up your child.

    You seem to be indicating that you don't intend to stay with her for the rest of your life, given you are asking about support payments. You will be liable, potentially for the next 21-23 years for support and this will be proportionate to your earnings. This should limit your future plans for starting another family, but to be blunt it doesn't seem to on the whole, perhaps you're a bit more responsible than most.

    If this is hypothetical rubber up. If it's not then get advice as a couple, get it now. This is one of the most life changing things that will happen to you, your partner and a child deserves more than to raised by one parent. That's not a slight on single parent who raise their children, but the parent that buggers off.

    I fully intend on staying with her for the very long term, but I was simply seeking advice incase, at some stage something were to go awry is all(things can happen is all, both in our midtwenties) . Having been raised in a one parent sittuation I understand the pressures it can have on a parent.
    The scare just, well, scared me, and i was just seeing if the worst were to happen in the future what would be options.

    Thank you though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Bepolite


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    I fully intend on staying with her for the very long term, but I was simply seeking advice incase, at some stage something were to go awry is all(things can happen is all, both in our midtwenties) . Having been raised in a one parent sittuation I understand the pressures it can have on a parent.
    The scare just, well, scared me, and i was just seeing if the worst were to happen in the future what would be options.

    Thank you though

    Not a problem and please accept my apologies for being a dick.

    On that very subject, see your GP as a couple and explore the various methods of contraception. I realise you may have already done that but it amazes me the number of people that do not.

    I will share my rather old fashioned views with you. If you do intend on starting a family get married first. My own views on God and religion aside, this is not to appease the magic sky man but to ensure you, and more importantly your child falls within the protections marriage brings. I actually agree with the Irish approach, personally, but again notwithstanding my own views the law is what it is at the moment.

    I wish you all the best.


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