Keenan Klassic 140

reilig

We're looking at picking up a new or refurbished Keenan Klassic 115 in the new year for a new farming project. What kind of money should we be looking at? What sort of HP would it take? We have 97HP, but the plan is to change it in the new year for 110hp. Will this be enough or should we be looking at 120 hp?

dar31

we drive ours with a dx 90, plenty of hp even when full.
use the mf 4245 80hp a few times, able for it but only just, even the 4600 will run it with a half load in

nashmach

reilig wrote: »

We're looking at picking up a new or refurbished Keenan Klassic 115 in the new year for a new farming project. What kind of money should we be looking at? What sort of HP would it take? We have 97HP, but the plan is to change it in the new year for 110hp. Will this be enough or should we be looking at 120 hp?

Not ideal for bales though so you may want to take that into account.

td5man

nashmach wrote: »

Not ideal for bales though so you may want to take that into account.

And have a mechanic on speed dial. ;-)

mf240

reilig wrote: »

We're looking at picking up a new or refurbished Keenan Klassic 115 in the new year for a new farming project. What kind of money should we be looking at? What sort of HP would it take? We have 97HP, but the plan is to change it in the new year for 110hp. Will this be enough or should we be looking at 120 hp?

Do your cows not have teeth, diet feeders are just toys,

And you need two tractors to start on a cold morning, I would prefer to spend money creating. Extra feed space and more comfortable housing.

reilig

mf240 wrote: »

Do your cows not have teeth, diet feeders are just toys,

And you need two tractors to start on a cold morning, I would prefer to spend money creating. Extra feed space and more comfortable housing.

It's not for cows.

I think it has been proven that animals aren't accurate at mixing feed. Our bulls just can't figure out how to use the weighing scales. The buttons are too small for their hooves - hence the need for the feeder.

All tractors start here on cold mornings.

Have more feed space and comfortable housing than I can need - hence the plan to make better use of it.

reilig

nashmach wrote: »

Not ideal for bales though so you may want to take that into account.

have pit

Milked out

If you're changing up tractors anyway you might as well go for the 120, would it cost much more?? 7840 here turns an over full klassik 100 here idling. the extra power will give a bit of leeway in future for whatever else may be added down the tracks

mf240

reilig wrote: »

It's not for cows.

I think it has been proven that animals aren't accurate at mixing feed. Our bulls just can't figure out how to use the weighing scales. The buttons are too small for their hooves - hence the need for the feeder.

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Have heard their salesmen make some lofty claims, but the bulls won't be able to feed themselves with the diet feeder, if there struggling with using a simple weighing scales:D

dar31

td5man wrote: »

And have a mechanic on speed dial. ;-)

have had keenans here since 83 i think it was, very reliable, current one is 6 yrs old and only used 2 bearings €30 ea and a full set of knives every 2 or so years, serviced by keenans every 2 yrs just to keep her right.
their nutrition service is absolute crap though, pitty that

aside from that, i could never get a answer as to how much they will hold from the keenan rep

we put 4700kg max into our 140 klassic (half silage/maize and meal)

bob charles

dar31 wrote: »

we put 4700kg max into our 140 klassic (half silage/maize and meal)

You can horse in another ton no bother.

E mac

I've a 140 since 2007 no bother only needed to replace worn/broken blades, stoney straw is not ideal!

bob charles

reilig wrote: »

We're looking at picking up a new or refurbished Keenan Klassic 115 in the new year for a new farming project. What kind of money should we be looking at? What sort of HP would it take? We have 97HP, but the plan is to change it in the new year for 110hp. Will this be enough or should we be looking at 120 hp?

Firstly I would say to go with a 140, it might be too big today but its easy do a half load and machine under less pressure. I have driven a 140 for a season with a mf 165:), she starts on the button every morning nowadays:D:D. 90hp is more than enough, 80hp for light use would suffice.

I just finished relining my one this evening, nice awkard job but first time doing it ourselves and it looks more professional that a one done by keenan a few weeks ago. another 500 quid an she will be as good as new and going into her 5 season. Keenan were looking for ridiculous money to change up to a 170, and they are a massive feeder on the outside. They can be picked up for small money and only a handful of years old, take a look a donedeal to get example. Have you considered a tub?

If anyone is looking to reline a feeder drop me a PM as my man (professional welder) here in the yard is looking for work

Milked out

bob charles wrote: »

You can horse in another ton no bother.

Got up to 4200 in our 100, of grass/ maize silage coarse ration and straw, that would be maxing her out alrite and mixing wouldn't be ideal then either

whelan1

Milked out wrote: »

Got up to 4200 in our 100, of grass/ maize silage coarse ration and straw, that would be maxing her out alrite and mixing wouldn't be ideal then either

7000 max in our 170, on a tm125

caseman

reilig wrote: »

We're looking at picking up a new or refurbished Keenan Klassic 115 in the new year for a new farming project. What kind of money should we be looking at? What sort of HP would it take? We have 97HP, but the plan is to change it in the new year for 110hp. Will this be enough or should we be looking at 120 hp?

I'm getting a keenan 100 bale handler an trial next week .Nearly all pit here but we buy some bales when needed.
Hope it will cut down an labour. He,s looking for 7 grand for the feeder.

jersey101

bob charles wrote: »

Firstly I would say to go with a 140, it might be too big today but its easy do a half load and machine under less pressure. I have driven a 140 for a season with a mf 165:), she starts on the button every morning nowadays:D:D. 90hp is more than enough, 80hp for light use would suffice.

I just finished relining my one this evening, nice awkard job but first time doing it ourselves and it looks more professional that a one done by keenan a few weeks ago. another 500 quid an she will be as good as new and going into her 5 season. Keenan were looking for ridiculous money to change up to a 170, and they are a massive feeder on the outside. They can be picked up for small money and only a handful of years old, take a look a donedeal to get example. Have you considered a tub?

If anyone is looking to reline a feeder drop me a PM as my man (professional welder) here in the yard is looking for work

my keenan is after cracking all the way up the side. Shes an 06. Split is about 2ft long

bob charles

jersey101 wrote: »

my keenan is after cracking all the way up the side. Shes an 06. Split is about 2ft long

on the weld between the two sheets bang on in the middle? sounds like you need a reline, and fast

whelan1

jersey101 wrote: »

my keenan is after cracking all the way up the side. Shes an 06. Split is about 2ft long

There's a guy in edgeworthstown fixes them. David Campbell. I have his number if you want it

jersey101

bob charles wrote: »

on the weld between the two sheets bang on in the middle? sounds like you need a reline, and fast

yupp right where the two sheets meet. We welded it up last year ourselves and it did the job. No bale hanlder on ours so that could have caused it either??

bob charles

jersey101 wrote: »

yupp right where the two sheets meet. We welded it up last year ourselves and it did the job. No bale hanlder on ours so that could have caused it either??

probably just needs a reline so. more money :rolleyes:, get a quote of keenan for the craic, they will have a salesman in your yard Monday evening

jersey101

bob charles wrote: »

probably just needs a reline so. more money :rolleyes:, get a quote of keenan for the craic, they will have a salesman in your yard Monday evening

only had em in the yard last month fixing the scales, had to get a new one, ill say it to the father in the morning and hell jyst tell me to go fcuk off ha

whelan1

jersey101 wrote: »

only had em in the yard last month fixing the scales, had to get a new one, ill say it to the father in the morning and hell jyst tell me to go fcuk off ha

the guy i was talking about relines feeders , he came out last year to fix ours, was alot cheaper than keenans

td5man

bob charles wrote: »

probably just needs a reline so. more money :rolleyes:, get a quote of keenan for the craic, they will have a salesman in your yard Monday evening

Whether you want them or not.
Wonder could you get a sheet of hardox rolled and weld it in yourself.

jersey101

whelan1 wrote: »

the guy i was talking about relines feeders , he came out last year to fix ours, was alot cheaper than keenans

does he advertise on done deal? Were going to stick a length of flat in itvand see how it works, if it doesnt them may call someone out

whelan1

jersey101 wrote: »

does he advertise on done deal? Were going to stick a length of flat in itvand see how it works, if it doesnt them may call someone out

not sure, oh brings feeders to him on lorry, will get his number off him in morning and pm ya... if he is relining he will give you a spare while it is being done

td5man

jersey101 wrote: »

does he advertise on done deal? Were going to stick a length of flat in itvand see how it works, if it doesnt them may call someone out

Des condell either.

whelan1

td5man wrote: »

Des condell either.

anyone is probably better than keenans price:rolleyes:

jersey101

whelan1 wrote: »

anyone is probably better than keenans price:rolleyes:

our keenan is a reject from america, it was the old model and the yanks didnt want it, still payed dear for it

td5man

Do other paddle feeders wear out as quickly or tubs for that matter.

whelan1

td5man wrote: »

Do other paddle feeders wear out as quickly or tubs for that matter.

in fairness we have ours 8 or 9 years and it has given very little trouble. David campbell did the bearing on the back for us last year.some of the feeders oh brought to be relined where a total show, i dont know how the silage was staying in them at all

delaval

whelan1 wrote: »

in fairness we have ours 8 or 9 years and it has given very little trouble. David campbell did the bearing on the back for us last year.some of the feeders oh brought to be relined where a total show, i dont know how the silage was staying in them at all

Wish it would fall out of mine???

jersey101

delaval wrote: »

Wish it would fall out of mine???

itll be a nice project for a student in the spring

td5man

delaval wrote: »

Wish it would fall out of mine???

Patience it will maybe not today or tomorrow but soon.

whelan1

oh was going to outfarm a few years ago with feeder with about 6t in it, he met a car flying on the road and pulled in, the weight of the feeder pulled it in to ditch, we had to empty it by hand , pull out feeder and reload it... now he says fook it if he meets a car there they can go in the ditch

td5man

I don't pull over for anyone anymore after the edge of the road gave way under the JCB and a tree stopped it falling in to the field.

6480

caseman wrote: »

I'm getting a keenan 100 bale handler an trial next week .Nearly all pit here but we buy some bales when needed.
Hope it will cut down an labour. He,s looking for 7 grand for the feeder.

i am after picking up a redrock paddle feeder for 1500 euro , its just after getting relined for 450

td5man

6480 wrote: »

i am after picking up a redrock paddle feeder for 1500 euro , its just after getting relined for 450

There supposed to be better than a Keenan

delaval

6480 wrote: »

i am after picking up a redrock paddle feeder for 1500 euro , its just after getting relined for 450

Great value, worth more for scrap

delaval

Got rid of feeder 2 years ago, don't miss it Tbh. Really useful feeding or finishing cattle.

We feed bales every second day and will do the same when pit is opened. Works well and give meal in parlour.

bob charles

6480 wrote: »

i am after picking up a redrock paddle feeder for 1500 euro , its just after getting relined for 450

who the hell relined it for 450, the steel alone would cost more before rolling it.

6480

bob charles wrote: »

who the hell relined it for 450, the steel alone would cost more before rolling it.

friend of mine got it done for me in a engineering firm that roll steel for side slingers

caseman

6480 wrote: »

i am after picking up a redrock paddle feeder for 1500 euro , its just after getting relined for 450

6 to 7 grand is the price most bale handlers that i enquired about .
can the red rock handle bales.