A coaches best XI (excluding current players)

Cantona's Collars

The Times came up with an interesting question for Ancelotti - "What's your ideal team, using players you've directed, but excluding your current set."

Here's his team: Buffon; Cafu, Terry, Thiago Silva, Maldini; Lampard, Pirlo, Zidane; Shevchenko, Ibrahimovic, Kaká.
Subs: Cech, Cole, Nesta, Gattuso, Seedorf, Drogba, Inzaghi.


Fergie would be too obvious a choice so I'll start with Wenger.

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Seaman

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Dixon---Adams

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Bould

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Cole

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Pires---Vieira--Fabregas

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Weah----Bergkamp--Henry

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Subs: RVP,Thuram,Klinsmann,Stojkovic,Petit.

Seaneh

Carlito:
Not excluding his current squad.
Players he has coached, in their prime and their importance to the team they were in and what they achieved while playing for him.

GK: Iker

RB: Cafu
CB: Nesta
CB: Thiago Silva
LB: Maldini

DM: Gattuso
DM: Pirlo

AMR: Di Maria
AMC: Kaka
AML: Ronaldo

FC: Shevchenko

Subs:
Sirigu
Ramos
Stam
Alonso
Khedira
Lavezzi
Ibrahimovic


Edit.
I totally forgot about Chelski.

Probably put Terry and Cole in the subs over Ramos and Stam.

astonaidan

Soo it said pick players excluding current set, to which ye both decided to then include players from current set

Seaneh

astonaidan wrote: »

Soo it said pick players excluding current set, to which ye both decided to then include players from current set

The op doesn't have any players Wenger or Ancelotti are currently managing.

I just picked what I feel us the strongest team you could make from players Ancelotti has managed past and present.

Oranage2

Meh I'll do a fergy one

Shemichal
G Nev stam vidic irwin
Ronaldo robson scholes giggs
Cantona van nis

Mushy

Seaneh wrote: »

The op doesn't have any players Wenger or Ancelotti are currently managing.

I just picked what I feel us the strongest team you could make from players Ancelotti has managed past and present.

Ozil annonymous already?

keano_afc

zerks wrote: »

The Times came up with an interesting question for Ancelotti - "What's your ideal team, using players you've directed, but excluding your current set."

Here's his team: Buffon; Cafu, Terry, Thiago Silva, Maldini; Lampard, Pirlo, Zidane; Shevchenko, Ibrahimovic, Kaká.
Subs: Cech, Cole, Nesta, Gattuso, Seedorf, Drogba, Inzaghi.


Fergie would be too obvious a choice so I'll start with Wenger.

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Seaman

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Dixon---Adams

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Bould

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Cole

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Pires---Vieira--Fabregas

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Weah----Bergkamp--Henry

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Subs: RVP,Thuram,Klinsmann,Stojkovic,Ozil.

Ha, read that as the legend that was Christopher Wreh.

brevity

EDIT: Ninja delete :pac:

Seaneh

Mushy wrote: »

Ozil annonymous already?

Carlo didn't coach him.
ANd Kaka at his best was a better player than Ozil anyway

Skylinehead

Seaneh wrote: »

Carlo didn't coach him.

He did for a whole month :pac:

Seaneh

Skylinehead wrote: »

He did for a whole month :pac:

Yeah, I'm not counting that.

Red Crow

Terry over Stam?! Jesus Christ all mighty.

Cantona's Collars

astonaidan wrote: »

Soo it said pick players excluding current set, to which ye both decided to then include players from current set

I changed mine,dunno how Ozil snuck into my team.Fantasy Football on the brain:pac:

Had a look at who Trapp managed,you could pick a couple of world class XI's out of the list.

Seaneh

Red Crow wrote: »

Terry over Stam?! Jesus Christ all mighty.

Longevity and accomplishments wise, Terry probably edges Stam.
Stam was one of the best of the last 20 odd years though.

Cantona's Collars

Capello:

.............Buffon.............

Maldini....Baresi.....Cananvaro....Cafu

Del Piero...Viera...Davids......Nedved

.............Totti....Ibrahimovic..........


...............Cassillas.............

Costacurta...Hierro...Desailly..R.Carlos

Ronaldo.....Seedorf...Gullitt......Baggio

.........Raul.........Van Basten

Still leaves,Boban,Beckham,Laudrup,Kluivert,Papin,Van Nistelrooy,Zambrotta,Terry,Lampard,Rooney,Cole,Samuel,Batistuta,Savicevic and a few more besides.

Sir Gallagher

Red Crow wrote: »

Terry over Stam?! Jesus Christ all mighty.

Yes John Terry, not Philipe Senderos. Relax.

Sir Gallagher

zerks wrote: »

Capello:

.............Buffon.............

Maldini....Baresi.....Cananvaro....Cafu

Del Piero...Viera...Davids......Nedved

.............Totti....Ibrahimovic..........


...............Cassillas.............

Costacurta...Hierro...Desailly..R.Carlos

Ronaldo.....Seedorf...Gullitt......Baggio

.........Raul.........Van Basten

Still leaves,Boban,Beckham,Laudrup,Kluivert,Papin,Van Nistelrooy,Zambrotta,Terry,Lampard,Rooney,Cole,Samuel,Batistuta,Savicevic and a few more besides.

Gerrard.

Dempsey

Gordon Strachan

Boruc; Hinkel, Lundekvam, McManus, Jarni; McGeady, Nakamura, McAllister, Bellamy; Keane, Hartson;

Subs:
Ogrizovic
Bridge
Telfer
A. Svensson
Roy Keane
Maloney
McDonald
Sutton

If Jarni isnt acceptable and he probably isnt, Bridge @ LB :pac:

Seaneh

zerks wrote: »

Capello:

.............Buffon.............

Maldini....Baresi.....Cananvaro....Cafu

Del Piero...Viera...Davids......Nedved

.............Totti....Ibrahimovic..........


...............Cassillas.............

Costacurta...Hierro...Desailly..R.Carlos

Ronaldo.....Seedorf...Gullitt......Baggio

.........Raul.........Van Basten

Still leaves,Boban,Beckham,Laudrup,Kluivert,Papin,Van Nistelrooy,Zambrotta,Terry,Lampard,Rooney,Cole,Samuel,Batistuta,Savicevic and a few more besides.

How you can have Seedorf and Davids ahead of Savicevic I don't know.

Cantona's Collars

Seaneh wrote: »

How you can have Seedorf and Davids ahead of Savicevic I don't know.

That's the joys of this thread,everyone has their own picks.At times it's hard to choose but I always loved Davids & Seedorf in their prime.

Ok,who's next to pick a manager & a best XI?

Seaneh

zerks wrote: »

That's the joys of this thread,everyone has their own picks.At times it's hard to choose but I always loved Davids & Seedorf in their prime.

Ok,who's next to pick a manager & a best XI?

I'm a Seedorf lover myself, Davids less so (probably because he was crap at Milan) but I think Dejan is just different level.

But yeah, everyone has different opinions, which is what makes threads like this interesting.

efb

AW

Lehman
Dixon Adams Campbell Cole
Pires Viera Fabregas Ljunberg
Bergkamp
Henry

Aenaes

zerks wrote: »

Capello:

.............Buffon.............

Maldini....Baresi.....Cananvaro....Cafu

Del Piero...Viera...Davids......Nedved

.............Totti....Ibrahimovic..........

I love that team. Would also like to see someone do a Trapattoni 11 but I'm not bothered to research it for myself.

A quick one for Guardiola:

....................Neuer...............

Lahm.....Puyol.....Badstuber......Alaba

..........Xavi...........Schweinsteiger

Fabregas.........Iniesta.............Robben

.....................Messi..........................

Andersonisgod

Aenaes wrote: »

I love that team. Would also like to see someone do a Trapattoni 11 but I'm not bothered to research it for myself.

A quick one for Guardiola:

....................Neuer...............

Lahm.....Puyol.....Badstuber......Alaba

..........Xavi...........Schweinsteiger

Fabregas.........Iniesta.............Robben

.....................Messi..........................

Badstuber over Pique? and is there a more under-appreciated player in the history of football than Sergio Busquets?

Seaneh

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Badstuber over Pique? and is there a more under-appreciated player in the history of football than Sergio Busquets?

If you think Biscuits is a better player than Bastian Schweinsteiger you are you out of your tiny mind.


And I'd have Badstuber over Pique every day of the week. Pique is only 2 seconds from a monumental brain fart.

Aenaes

I figured you might speak up after I posted that. It's basically preference for me, I don't like Pique and Busquets has "tackled" like a scumbag on occasions.
There's also a good case to play Dani Alves ahead of Alaba and switch Lahm to the left but I don't like gung-ho full-backs who don't prioritise defending.

Cantona's Collars

Aenaes wrote: »

I love that team. Would also like to see someone do a Trapattoni 11 but I'm not bothered to research it for myself.

Pick the bones out of these:

Trapattoni...

Zoff-Peruzzi-Zenga-Kahn-Toldo-Buffon
Gentile-Scirea-Cabrini-Kohler-Bergomi-Passarella-Brehme-Lizarazu-Cannavaro-Nesta-Maldini
Tardelli-Matthaus-Gattuso-Pirlo
Boniek-Platini--Laudrup-Rui Costa-Totti-Moller
Rossi-Baggio-Rummenigge-Batistuta-Vieiri-Del Piero-Klinsmann-Papin-Vialli

Skylinehead

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Badstuber over Pique? and is there a more under-appreciated player in the history of football than Sergio Busquets?

Busquets is an absolutely superb player, probably the best defensive midfielder in the world. But come on, he's not better than Bastian Schweinsteiger.

Lumbo

Trapattoni

Kahn

Gentile Matthäus Cabrini Kuffour

Brady Platini Tardelli Scholl

Rossi Klinsmann

Seaneh

Lumbo wrote: »

Trapattoni

Kahn

Gentile Matthäus Cabrini Kuffour

Brady Platini Tardelli Scholl

Rossi Klinsmann

You have Sami Kuffor ahead of Maldini?

wat?

Andersonisgod

Skylinehead wrote: »

Busquets is an absolutely superb player, probably the best defensive midfielder in the world. But come on, he's not better than Bastian Schweinsteiger.

I'd have Busquets all day long. I'd make an argument that Xavi and Schweinsteiger are rather similar and both could do with a strong holding midfield player beside them. If the choice was Schweinsteiger of Xavi I'd pick Xavi and if the choice was Busquets or any other holding midfielder to ever play the game I'd pick Busquets.

astonaidan

Seaneh wrote: »

The op doesn't have any players Wenger or Ancelotti are currently managing.

I just picked what I feel us the strongest team you could make from players Ancelotti has managed past and present.

He had Ozil, but now has Petit

Frankie Lee

Martin O'Neill

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Friedel

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Laursen-Balde-Mjallby

Milner---Lennon---Lambert---Young

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Petrov

---Heskey(leicester days)--Larsson

Andersonisgod

A Mourinho one

Cech

Maicon, Carvalho, Terry, Cole

Alonso, Makelele, Lampard

Robben, Drogba, Ronaldo

Subs: Casillas, Lucio, Samuel, Zanetti, Essien, Cambiasso, Ozil, Hazard, Eto'o, Ibrahimovic

I've probably even missed a few there. Great quality.

Frankie Lee

Andersonisgod wrote: »

A Mourinho one

Cech

Maicon, Carvalho, Terry, Cole

Alonso, Makelele, Lampard

Robben, Drogba, Ronaldo

Subs: Casillas, Lucio, Samuel, Zanetti, Essien, Cambiasso, Ozil, Hazard, Eto'o, Ibrahimovic

I've probably even missed a few there. Great quality.

Deco for his Porto form.

Skylinehead

Andersonisgod wrote: »

I'd have Busquets all day long. I'd make an argument that Xavi and Schweinsteiger are rather similar and both could do with a strong holding midfield player beside them. If the choice was Schweinsteiger of Xavi I'd pick Xavi and if the choice was Busquets or any other holding midfielder to ever play the game I'd pick Busquets.

Ah here. First of all Xavi and Schweinsteiger are nothing alike. Schweinsteiger is perfectly capable of being a strong holding player in his own right, he's very powerful. Unlike Xavi.

As for any other holding midfielder to ever play.....Lothar Matthaus all day please.

Andersonisgod

Skylinehead wrote: »

Ah here. First of all Xavi and Schweinsteiger are nothing alike. Schweinsteiger is perfectly capable of being a strong holding player in his own right, he's very powerful. Unlike Xavi.

As for any other holding midfielder to ever play.....Lothar Matthaus all day please.

Both the passing hubs of their respective teams. Schweinsteiger more powerful, but Xavi more creative and technically gifted. Both do better alongside a strong holding midfielder.

That's fair enough, personally I'd have Sergio Busquets over anybody. The defensive instinct of Makelele, the big tackles, the finely tuned interceptions and the positional awareness to match any rivals but in a class of his own on the ball, the player through who Barcelona's style of football begins.

Flincher

Andre Villas Boas

Cech

Ivanovic, Cahill, Terry, Cole

Bale, Moutinho Lampard, Hulk

Falcao, Drogba

kfallon

Dempsey wrote: »

Gordon Strachan

Boruc; Hinkel, Lundekvam, McManus, Jarni; McGeady, Nakamura, McAllister, Bellamy; Keane, Hartson;

Subs:
Ogrizovic
Bridge
Telfer
A. Svensson
Roy Keane
Maloney
McDonald
Sutton

If Jarni isnt acceptable and he probably isnt, Bridge @ LB :pac:

Think Hadji and James Beattie would be worthy of at least a squad inclusion there. Beattie was excellent under Strachan!

kfallon

Frankie Lee wrote: »

Martin O'Neill

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Friedel

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Laursen-Balde-Mjallby

Milner---Lennon---Lambert---Young

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Petrov

---Heskey(leicester days)--Larsson

No Moravcik??? :eek:

SantryRed

zerks wrote: »

Pick the bones out of these:

Trapattoni...

Zoff-Peruzzi-Zenga-Kahn-Toldo-Buffon
Gentile-Scirea-Cabrini-Kohler-Bergomi-Passarella-Brehme-Lizarazu-Cannavaro-Nesta-Maldini
Tardelli-Matthaus-Gattuso-Pirlo
Boniek-Platini--Laudrup-Rui Costa-Totti-Moller
Rossi-Baggio-Rummenigge-Batistuta-Vieiri-Del Piero-Klinsmann-Papin-Vialli

You forgot Paul McShane.

Vinz Mesrine

Rafa would have a great 11 of previous players.

kfallon

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

Rafa would have a great 11 of previous players.

Reina

Angloma
Lucio
Hyypia
Zanetti

Gerrard
Alonso
Baraja

Aimar
Sneijder

Torres

Just off the top of my head! Zanetti gonna have to fill in at left back!

Vinz Mesrine

Gk: Reina / Cech / Canizares / Julio Cesar

Def: Finnan, Hyypia, Carragher, Terry, Cole, Ivanovic, Ayala, Pellegrino, Albiol, Marchena, Aurelio, Zanetti, Lucio, Samuel, Maicon

Mid: Gerrard, Alonso, Mascherano, Lampard, Mata, Hazard, Albelda, Baraja, Aimar, Vicente, Sneijder, Stankovic, Cambiasso

Att: Torres, E'Too, Milito, Pandev, Drogba

I'm sure there are some missing but you could get a good squad from them

Gaillimh1976

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

Gk: Reina / Cech / Canizares / Julio Cesar

Def: Finnan, Hyypia, Carragher, Terry, Cole, Ivanovic, Ayala, Pellegrino, Albiol, Marchena, Aurelio, Zanetti, Lucio, Samuel, Maicon

Mid: Gerrard, Alonso, Mascherano, Lampard, Mata, Hazard, Albelda, Baraja, Aimar, Vicente, Sneijder, Stankovic, Cambiasso

Att: Torres, E'Too, Milito, Pandev, Drogba

I'm sure there are some missing but you could get a good squad from them

You forgot Biscan & Traore

Mushy

Seaneh wrote: »

Carlo didn't coach him.
ANd Kaka at his best was a better player than Ozil anyway

He had him in Wenger's team though, but it has since been edited!

GTR63

Seaneh wrote: »

Carlito:
Not excluding his current squad.
Players he has coached, in their prime and their importance to the team they were in and what they achieved while playing for him.

GK: Iker

RB: Cafu
CB: Nesta
CB: Thiago Silva
LB: Maldini

DM: Gattuso
DM: Pirlo

AMR: Di Maria
AMC: Kaka
AML: Ronaldo

FC: Shevchenko

Subs:
Sirigu
Ramos
Stam
Alonso
Khedira
Lavezzi
Ibrahimovic


Edit.
I totally forgot about Chelski.

Probably put Terry and Cole in the subs over Ramos and Stam.

Serginho should of made the bench, he saved his arse enough times as a sub

OnTheCouch

Brian Clough:

Shilton
Anderson McFarland Pearce
Mackay
Giles Keane Bremner Robertson
Clarke Francis

Subs:
Hector
McGovern
Jordan
Walker
Lloyd
O'Hare
Reaney
Woods
Todd

Will I Amnt

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

Gk: Reina / Cech / Canizares / Julio Cesar

Def: Finnan, Hyypia, Carragher, Terry, Cole, Ivanovic, Ayala, Pellegrino, Albiol, Marchena, Aurelio, Zanetti, Lucio, Samuel, Maicon

Mid: Gerrard, Alonso, Mascherano, Lampard, Mata, Hazard, Albelda, Baraja, Aimar, Vicente, Sneijder, Stankovic, Cambiasso

Att: Torres, E'Too, Milito, Pandev, Drogba

I'm sure there are some missing but you could get a good squad from them

Drogba was gone when he took over wasn't he?

EuropeanSon

zerks wrote: »

The Times came up with an interesting question for Ancelotti - "What's your ideal team, using players you've directed, but excluding your current set."

Here's his team: Buffon; Cafu, Terry, Thiago Silva, Maldini; Lampard, Pirlo, Zidane; Shevchenko, Ibrahimovic, Kaká.
Subs: Cech, Cole, Nesta, Gattuso, Seedorf, Drogba, Inzaghi.


Fergie would be too obvious a choice so I'll start with Wenger.

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Seaman

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Dixon---Adams

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Bould

---

Cole

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Pires---Vieira--Fabregas

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Weah----Bergkamp--Henry

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Subs: RVP,Thuram,Klinsmann,Stojkovic,Petit.

Can't have a Wenger XI without Campbell. And I don't think anyone can put Thuram on a bench behind Dixon.

Left Back on the Bench

'arry
James
Johnson king Ferdinand bridge
Cole modric lampard bale
vdv
Di canio