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Business secondary teaching

  • 20-11-2013 4:52pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10


    im in 6th year and planning on becoming a business teacher, is there any courses that allow me to directly become a business teacher? i know about other routes such as commerce + Hdip, and rec and leisure + business + Hdip.. but is there any course that the Hdip is already included in?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 277 ✭✭UnLuckyAgain


    St Patrick's College in Thurles doa B.A. programme in education, business studies and another subject, 4 years concurrent programme.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭gaeilgebeo


    Please keep in mind that business, in particular is hugely over-subscribed. Some colleges restrict/cap the number of business graduates on the PGDE course. With the new Junior Cert and it's "short course", things aren't going to get any better.
    If business is your passion, go for it, but be aware of the job prospects.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭donegal11


    St Patrick's College in Thurles doa B.A. programme in education, business studies and another subject, 4 years concurrent programme.

    It's gone from now on,this year the was last enrollments due to the whole reorganisation of education providers and push towards university accreditation and affiliations between colleges. To be honest it was a joke to have a relatively unknown college in Thurles pumping out teachers when there was an amble supply from the NUI's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 Eoghanod


    so theres nowhere else?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭donegal11


    There's a course in belfast through st marys/qub but don't know if it'll be recognised in republic from now on.Then of course there's doing a 3 year business course and then 2 years education postgrad to teach.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭Crazyteacher


    But surely qualifications from the UK will be accepted as part of the EU mutual recognition of teaching qualifications ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭donegal11


    But surely qualifications from the UK will be accepted as part of the EU mutual recognition of teaching qualifications ?

    From what I can see there going to make it as difficult as possible to come over from the uk. You have to do your probation in UK from now on and from 2017 there tightening up on syllabus requirements and only course in irish institutions are on the recognised list and from next year a UK hdip won't be equal(not recognised to teach here) to the new 2 year Professional masters which is essentially the old hdip with more teaching practice. since some concurrent degrees for secondary are extending to 5 years I would question the status of the belfast course. The mutual recognition would apply when courses are equal in status but since a masters>hdip I think the teaching council would dig in it's heels, imagining all the fees they'll get assessing all the qualifications:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 Eoghanod


    right i think im gona go down the Rec and leisure + business+Hdip route in cit as im a big sports person and good at business, is there any drawbacks to this route, say compared to the 4 year business course (+hdip) in cit or commerce+hdip in ucc?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 277 ✭✭UnLuckyAgain


    Eoghanod wrote: »
    right i think im gona go down the Rec and leisure + business+Hdip route in cit as im a big sports person and good at business, is there any drawbacks to this route, say compared to the 4 year business course (+hdip) in cit or commerce+hdip in ucc?

    You need to check if the 'Rec and leisure + business' degree is recognised by the Teaching Council for teaching purposes. I would advise you to do this before you start the degree in case it is not recognised!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 Eoghanod


    it is im sure..i was at the CIT open day Friday and went to a talk on the course and they said your able to appy for Hdip in teaching after completeing bachelor of business


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Mardy Bum


    Eoghanod wrote: »
    it is im sure..i was at the CIT open day Friday and went to a talk on the course and they said your able to appy for Hdip in teaching after completeing bachelor of business

    You can apply for the PDE/MDE with any level 8 degree. What you need to check is what subjects it qualifies you to teach.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 Eoghanod




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 277 ✭✭UnLuckyAgain


    Just be aware that you will more than likely be eligible to teach 2 out of 3 business subjects as it's practically impossible to be able to teach all 3 with just an undergraduate degree. All of this will depend on your choice of modules i.e. you will come out being able to teach Business + Economics or Business + Accounting.

    Of course you will be eligible for JC Business Studies with a degree in any business subject.


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