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Formula 1 2013: Round 19 - Brazilian Grand Prix

  • 19-11-2013 1:12am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,287 ✭✭✭✭


    So F1 heads off to Interlagos for the last race of the season.

    Would love a wet race this weekend. Hopefully Lewis will end up on the podium with Felipe, I would just love that :D

    I really hope it will be a cracking race.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,908 ✭✭✭zom


    Jordan 191 wrote: »
    So F1 heads off to Interlagos for the last race of the season.

    Would love a wet race this weekend. Hopefully Lewis will end up on the podium with Felipe, I would just love that :D

    I really hope it will be a cracking race.

    It would be very nice to let Massa get podium there. With second place already secured for Alonso, I hope Ferrari will support Brasilian for his last race with them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,287 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    zom wrote: »
    It would be very nice to let Massa get podium there. With second place already secured for Alonso, I hope Ferrari will support Brasilian for his last race with them.

    It would be great to see Felipe on the podium this weekend for sure. He has done very well there in the past, 2 wins, a 2nd and a 3rd place finish, plus 2 other points finishes there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭andyman


    HULK HULK HULK


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,038 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    I hope Webber gets a win in his final F1 race.

    Especially since I'll bet on him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,287 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199




    Superb move by Montoya there :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭podmu80


    Great pass that. Shame how that race ended for Montoya. Thought he was destined for great things,pity he's f1 career never quite matched expectations. Will be interested to see how he gets on in IndyCar.
    Interlagos is one of my favourite tracks. Old,dusty,bumpy bowl that it is. But its one of those old school tracks that has character. Usually provides a decent race.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭SilverScreen


    I hope Webber gets a win in his final F1 race.

    Especially since I'll bet on him.
    Vettel will snatch victory from him in the closing laps ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,287 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    podmu80 wrote: »
    Great pass that. Shame how that race ended for Montoya. Thought he was destined for great things,pity he's f1 career never quite matched expectations. Will be interested to see how he gets on in IndyCar.
    Interlagos is one of my favourite tracks. Old,dusty,bumpy bowl that it is. But its one of those old school tracks that has character. Usually provides a decent race.

    Montoya had a short career in F1, just about over five and a half years. When everything was going right for him, he was a superb driver in F1. Won at Interlagos twice in 2004 and 2005.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭podmu80


    He was my favorite driver to watch during his time at Williams. Had a few run ins with Schumacher, thats probably why I liked him! Could have won the championship in '03 I think it was with a bit of luck. Just a shame the way his f1 career ended. Glad his back in Indycar.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,237 ✭✭✭Mr Pseudonym


    andyman wrote: »
    HULK HULK HULK

    I don't think the track suits him. ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,473 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    Just watched the 2003 race with all the rain and cars sliding off turn 3, the red flag and the unclear winner. (Slightly disappointed that the didn't bother to show or mention at the end that the race result was corrected few days later to give the win for Fisi and Jordan)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,287 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    Just watched the 2003 race with all the rain and cars sliding off turn 3, the red flag and the unclear winner. (Slightly disappointed that the didn't bother to show or mention at the end that the race result was corrected few days later to give the win for Fisi and Jordan)

    Giancarlo got his hands on the Brazilian GP 1st place trophy in San Marino.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Rain please!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,473 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    Jordan 191 wrote: »
    Giancarlo got his hands on the Brazilian GP 1st place trophy in San Marino.

    Yep, remember that, just thought they'd stick that clip on at the end of showing the classic race but ended it with a mildly disappointed Giancarlo in the Brazil press conference


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭_rebelkid


    Brazil plays host to the 19th and final round of the 2013 FIA Formula One World Championship as teams make their way to São Paulo and the suburb of Interlagos, home of the Autódromo José Carlos Pace.

    The lap of Interlagos is one of the year’s shortest but it crams a lot into its 15 turns and 4.3 kilometres. It presents a classic demand for compromise between the high-downforce requirements of the looping medium-low speed middle section and the flat-out, low-drag search for ultimate top speed that characterises the long section uphill from the Junção corner to the start-finish line, which then drops down to the overtaking-friendly, heavy-braking Senna S.

    As in 2012, Pirelli will bring its Hard and Medium compounds to Interlagos. The rain-affected 2012 race provides few clues to strategy but key to Jenson Button’s victory last year was his ability to run on slicks in marginal conditions, winning on a two-stop strategy while his pursuers made an extra stop for rain tyres. The forecasts suggest rain may play a part again.
    Even if rain does fall, the 2013 edition is unlikely to deliver quite the level of drama seen in 2012’s title-decider. However, although the main issues of the season have been resolved, F1 goes to Interlagos with questions still to be answered.

    There are tight battles up and down the field in the Constructors’ Championship, not least of which is the competition for second place. In the USA, Mercedes increased their lead over Ferrari to 15 points, while Lotus remain a long-shot thanks to Romain Grosjean’s sterling efforts in Austin. Meanwhile, at the other end of the table, Marussia and Caterham are fighting to avoid finishing the season in last place. Marussia currently hold tenth, courtesy of Jules Bianchi’s 13th-place finish in Malaysia. In the normal course of events it would be difficult to imagine that being under threat – but Interlagos is perfectly capable of springing a surprise.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭_rebelkid


    Taken from the FIA preview


    ► Sebastian Vettel’s sixth place in last year’s Brazilian Grand Prix made him a triple world champion. It was the sixth time the Drivers’ Championship has been decided at Interlagos since the race was moved to the back end of the calendar in 2004. Fernando Alonso (’05, ’06) Kimi Räikkönen (’07), Lewis Hamilton (’08) and Jenson Button (’09) also sealed their titles at this circuit. Only Räikkönen marked the occasion with a victory.
    ► McLaren have a record 12 victories in Brazil. Emerson Fittipaldi triumphed at home in 1974, as did Ayrton Senna in ’91 and ’93. Alain Prost won in ’84, ’85, ’87 and ’88, Mika Hakkinen in ’98 and ’99, David Coulthard in 2001, Juan Pablo Montoya in ’05 and Button last year.
    ► Button is scheduled to make his 247th grand prix start on Sunday – a record for a British driver, overtaking David Coulthard who ended his driving career in F1 at this circuit in 2008.
    ► Prost’s four McLaren victories are bracketed by wins for Renault (’82) and Ferrari (’90) making him the most successful driver in the history of the race. He and Carlos Reutemann are the only drivers to have won the race both in Rio and São Paulo.
    ► The current 4.3km layout of Interlagos has hosted the Brazilian Grand Prix since 1990. Prior to this the race was held in Rio at the Jacarepaguá circuit (’78,’81-’89) and on the original 8km Interlagos layout (’73-’77, ’79-’80).
    ► Vettel’s victory in Austin was his eighth consecutive win of 2013, beating a record set by Michael Schumacher in 2004. This weekend Vettel can equal the nine consecutive victories recorded by Alberto Ascari. Ascari’s record was set over the season’s 1952-1953 and is only applicable if the Indianapolis 500 (in which Ascari and other ‘regular’ F1 drivers did not participate) is discounted.
    ► Interlagos historically has provided excellent overtaking opportunities. In the modern times Turns One & Two (Senna S) and Turns Four & Five (Descida do Lago) have provided the bulk of the overtaking action. Records show that from 30 races at this circuit, pole position has only led to victory on 10 occasions. The only driver to win from pole this century is Felipe Massa, who managed the feat in both ’06 and ’08.
    ► This is Mark Webber’s final grand prix. To date, the Australian has 214 grand prix starts, nine victories, 32 other podium finishes, 13 pole positions and 18 fastest laps. He has twice finished third in the Drivers’ Championship (’10, ’11). His first F1 race was the 2002 Australian Grand Prix, in which he finished fifth, driving for Minardi.
    ► This weekend F1 also says goodbye to Cosworth for the immediate future. The engine privateer has powered 176 F1 victories, second in the all-time list behind Ferrari. It’s most recent victory was at this circuit in 2003: Jordan’s Giancarlo Fisichella awarded the win after a red flag. Cosworth also recorded its most recent pole position here, Nico Hülkenberg taking P1 for Williams in 2010.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭_rebelkid




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,287 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    One thing about this circuit is that with it being anti-clockwise, it places great strain on the drivers neck as they come out of Subida dos Boxes (turn 14) and head onto the start/finish line.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,038 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    I noticed that Vettel had to rest his head a lot towards the end of the US GP...could this be someone else's chance to strike?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    could this be someone else's chance to strike?

    Not a hope, not unless Vettel has a reliability issue anyway.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭_rebelkid


    I noticed that Vettel had to rest his head a lot towards the end of the US GP...could this be someone else's chance to strike?

    Drivers have been doing that for years. Most notably around T8 in turkey. They do it in places like that because there is a sizeable straight after it where they can right their neck after the turn. So expect it when drivers are exiting Juncao.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,708 ✭✭✭Charlie-Bravo


    I really hope Red Bull don't gift Mark a win. Or try and show the Vettel has a heart by doing so which he doesn't and I wouldn't want anyone gifted a win when racing is racing.

    -. . ...- . .-. / --. --- -. -. .- / --. .. ...- . / -.-- --- ..- / ..- .--.



  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    2008 race on now on Sky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    astrofluff wrote: »
    I really hope Red Bull don't gift Mark a win. Or try and show the Vettel has a heart by doing so which he doesn't and I wouldn't want anyone gifted a win when racing is racing.

    even if RB decided to do that there is no way Vettel would pull over to allow it.
    he'll be chasing records still.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭podmu80


    "Multi 21" in reverse. That's what I'm hoping for. What a way for mark to bow out that would be!
    This season has been a damp squid so I'm just hoping for a decent race.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Mark wouldn't want a win gifted to him though I suspect, I'd imagine fighting for it would be the way he'd want it, like most drivers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭podmu80


    I should have said multi 21 IGNORED with the roles reversed!! Go out with a bang Mark!
    In reality seb will win by 10 sec plus. But I'm expecting a good enough race.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,206 ✭✭✭Zcott


    Friday: 80% chance of rain
    Saturday: 40% chance of rain
    Sunday: 20% chance of rain

    Would love to see a wet race :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,287 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    Zcott wrote: »
    Friday: 80% chance of rain
    Saturday: 40% chance of rain
    Sunday: 20% chance of rain

    Would love to see a wet race :-)

    Swap Friday rain with Sunday rain.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    LIGHTNING wrote: »
    How about Mark "missing" his braking point and wrecking the back of Seb`s car? A going away present if you must :pac:

    Ha, ya never know :D But Mark is a total professional, I think he'll be looking to go out on a high rather than the back of a moped :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,631 ✭✭✭mrsoundie


    Zcott wrote: »
    Friday: 80% chance of rain
    Saturday: 40% chance of rain
    Sunday: 20% chance of rain

    Would love to see a wet race :-)

    Looks good for rain. Taken from www.yr.no


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,769 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    Yep, remember that, just thought they'd stick that clip on at the end of showing the classic race but ended it with a mildly disappointed Giancarlo in the Brazil press conference

    The right thing to have done was to have Fisi, an Italian, to have been presented with the trophy on the podium at the Italian race - Great publicity, great for the Italian fans....

    Alas F1 did all it could to do to keep the trophy presentation under the radar......


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Myrddin wrote: »
    Ha, ya never know :D But Mark is a total professional, I think he'll be looking to go out on a high rather than the back of a moped :pac:

    I assume you mean 2nd?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,631 ✭✭✭mrsoundie


    mrsoundie wrote: »
    Looks good for rain. Taken from www.yr.no

    The forecast is no rain or very little for Sunday. :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    I assume you mean 2nd?

    No, I mean out on a high. As in a successful & satisfying race for him, whatever the result may be :)


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  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Myrddin wrote: »
    No, I mean out on a high. As in a successful & satisfying race for him, whatever the result may be :)

    Exactly, 2nd. :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    Maldonado out in Q1. I wonder if he'll blame Williams for putting water on the track.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,412 ✭✭✭lolie


    RayM wrote: »
    Maldonado out in Q1. I wonder if he'll blame Williams for putting water on the track.

    Nah, probably just sabotaged his car again. If he gets the lotus seat then bottas should be in a red bull.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭andyman


    Imagine the carnage if it started snowing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,412 ✭✭✭lolie


    I'd be as surprised as anyone to see it snowing at 18 degrees.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭andyman


    lolie wrote: »
    I'd be as surprised as anyone to see it snowing at 18 degrees.

    Alright mate, was talking in general. No need to be patronising.

    Christ some people need to lighten up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,412 ✭✭✭lolie


    Half expected Toto to say i'm a friend of sarah o connor, where is she.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,412 ✭✭✭lolie


    andyman wrote: »
    Alright mate, was talking in general. No need to be patronising.

    Christ some people need to lighten up

    Relax i was joking, meant nothin by it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭andyman


    In which case I apologise


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭andyman


    This is very similar to 2010...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭SnowDrifts


    A very impressive last lap by Vettel... once again, blowing the field away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭Lawlesz


    _rebelkid wrote: »


    Thought the middle guy was Kevin Keegan for a minute


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,412 ✭✭✭lolie


    Yeah its looking ominous yet again, thank god Webber's callin it a day.
    With all the talk about cost saving they could get rid of the wet tyre's as they have no use for them anymore


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,287 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    New helmet design this weekend for Felipe:

    ferr-mass-helmet-inte-2013-9-886x590.jpg

    ferr-mass-helmet-inte-2013-11-886x590.jpg

    :cool:


  • Subscribers Posts: 3,703 ✭✭✭TCP/IP


    Talk about an unreal quali lap by Vettel simply unreal.


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