Final Questions on Importing a 520D Touring

Altreab

Hello all
At long last i have decided what i want to replace my present Octavia RS (about bloody time says everyone around me )
Im going to get a 520D Tourer and most likely a Import from UK. A few final Questions for you all

1) Which would be the better buy a SE loaded with as many extras as possible OR a M-Sport thats about a year older?

2) Would i be mad to consider a 520D with the dreaded N47 engine IF and only IF the crank and pump have been replaced?

Im looking at 2010/2011 years as they are what are within my budget Budget is £20,000 (yes pounds as i will be buying in UK )

Engine size HAS to be under** 2lt to avail of disabled drivers concessions

Any other opinions would be appreciated

Altreab

Idbatterim

whats your budget?

pa990

Get a 530d m sport estate.

Twin turbo, and if you get a 2011 model, its 149g/co2 (auto)
And no timing chain issue

Downside. . More expensive

Altreab

pa990 wrote: »

Get a 530d m sport estate.

Twin turbo, and if you get a 2011 model, its 149g/co2 (auto)
And no timing chain issue

Downside. . More expensive

oh yeah i would LOVE a 530D BUT that way way outa my budget and as said in my edited post above i wouldnt be able to avail of disabled drivers tax relief if its over 2 litres
Fecking hell that 3 litre auto is same to tax than my manual 2lt octy

Rowley Birkin QC

Altreab wrote: »

Engine size HAS to be 2lt to avail of disabled drivers concessions

Slightly off topic but do you have any idea why is 2.0 the limit? Seems a weird thing to limit.

Altreab

Rowley Birkin QC wrote: »

Slightly off topic but do you have any idea why is 2.0 the limit? Seems a weird thing to limit.

It was the agreed limit when the legislation was brought in during the 80s. It MIGHT have something to do with the annual road tax thats to be paid. Personally i think its a shame that the limit is still there especially since road tax and VRT is now based on CO2 emissions. That said im not complaining about this Its just a limit i have to work around

Altreab

pa990

Altreab wrote: »

Fecking hell that 3 litre auto is same to tax than my manual 2lt octy

the 2010 has higher co2, the 2011 seems to be the one to get if someone could stretch to that initial cost

Leonard Hofstadter

pa990 wrote: »

Get a 530d m sport estate.

Twin turbo, and if you get a 2011 model, its 149g/co2 (auto)
And no timing chain issue

Downside. . More expensive

530d is and always has been, single turbo. Also the F10 has the N57 engine, so will also have the timing chain problem, unless it's a model built after 01 March 2011. No E60 530d suffers from the problem, though, because all six cylinder E60 diesels used the M57 engine, which is very reliable.

OP, why not consider a 525d if the budget allows? The 525d became a four cylinder from mid 2011 onwards, i.e. it has a 2.0 litre engine from then on.

deandean

The SE is a more comfortable drive than the m-sport due to higher ptofile tyres snd slightly softer suspension.

weekaizer

I wouldn't touch a n47 engined car,
unless you have a comprehensive print out not only that the chain has been replaced but that the upgraded sprockets/parts have been fitted.
Otherwise you may find it difficult to sell on in a few years time.

Altreab

captainspeed wrote: »

OP, why not consider a 525d if the budget allows? The 525d became a four cylinder from mid 2011 onwards, i.e. it has a 2.0 litre engine from then on.

The budget required for a 2011 F11 525D is around the 25-28K Sterling mark so way out of my budget range

wonski

pa990 wrote: »

BMW TwinPower Turbo six-cylinder diesel engines.
Pure dynamics paired with exceptional fuel economy – that’s what you get from the BMW TwinPower Turbo in-line six-cylinder diesel engines. Their high performance and markedly reduced fuel consumption and emissions comes from an innovative technology package from BMW EfficientDynamics. A combination of the latest generation of common-rail direct injection, multi-stage turbocharging and variable turbine geometry in the BMW 535d produces an impressive 230 kW (313 hp) and a torque of 630 Nm. This allows the in-line six-cylinder to sprint from 0 to 62 mph in 5.4 seconds. Its consumption is a moderate 47.9 to 51.4 mpg of diesel. In the BMW 530d, the engine delivers 190 kW (258 hp) and enables a maximum torque of 540 Nm even from 1,500 rpm. The vehicle confidently accelerates from 0 to 62 mph in 5.9 to 6.2 seconds, while consumption remains at a frugal 47.1 to 53.3 mpg. Thanks to BMW BluePerformance technology installed as standard, the BMW TwinPower Turbo in-line six-cylinder engine also fulfils the EU6 emission norm that comes into effect in 2014. All figures in accordance with EU test cycle and dependent upon the selected tyre format.

http://www.bmw.co.uk/en_GB/new-vehicles/5/touring/2013/engines.html

It is a 535d, not 530d...
Edit: it says it is used in 530d also, but it is for new models I think?

pa990

captainspeed wrote: »

530d is and always has been, single turbo. .

i beg to differ

http://www.bmw.co.uk/en_GB/new-vehicles/5/touring/2013/engines.html


BMW TwinPower Turbo six-cylinder diesel engines.
Pure dynamics paired with exceptional fuel economy – that’s what you get from the BMW TwinPower Turbo in-line six-cylinder diesel engines.

and

Continual high-level performance.
The BMW TwinPower Turbo straight six-cylinder diesel
engines in the BMW 535d and 530d.

Power speaks for itself: the BMW TwinPower Turbo diesel drive trains in the BMW 535d and BMW 530d are an impressive combination of dynamics, efficiency and smooth running
http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicles/5series/gran_turismo/2009/allfacts/engine/6_cylinder_diesel_engine.html

ian87

Twin power doesn't mean twin turbo. The new 320d's have a twin power turbo. I think it's something to do with having two scrolls in the turbo or something but doesn't mean twin turbo.
Why not an alpina d3 biturbo. 2l twin turbo from the 123d with something like 220bhp.
Here's one in your budget.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201310299497008/sort/atcustom/postcode/bs324nf/radius/1501/make/BMW/page/1?atcidi=ilc-mobi-link

MuppetCheck

ian87 wrote: »

Twin power doesn't mean twin turbo. The new 320d's have a twin power turbo. I think it's something to do with having two scrolls in the turbo or something but doesn't mean twin turbo.
Why not an alpina d3 biturbo. 2l twin turbo from the 123d with something like 220bhp.
Here's one in your budget.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201310299497008/sort/atcustom/postcode/bs324nf/radius/1501/make/BMW/page/1?atcidi=ilc-mobi-link

That's a special car right there, despite being a 4 cylinder. That would have a market when the OP decides to sell it on too. Great find.

ian87

I'd buy it!! Send me a pm when you decide to sell!

http://www.topgear.com/uk/bmw/3-series/road-test/alpina-d3-lux-driven

I looked into them last year when I was looking for a 320d but they were that little bit too pricey for me.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201307047643205/sort/default/usedcars/fuel-type/diesel/radius/1500/page/1/onesearchad/used,nearlynew,new/make/bmw/body-type/estate/model/alpina/postcode/bs324nf?logcode=p

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201310219385274/sort/default/usedcars/fuel-type/diesel/radius/1500/page/1/onesearchad/used,nearlynew,new/make/bmw/body-type/estate/model/alpina/postcode/bs324nf?logcode=p

Leonard Hofstadter

pa990 wrote: »

i beg to differ


BMW TwinPower Turbo six-cylinder diesel engines.
Pure dynamics paired with exceptional fuel economy – that’s what you get from the BMW TwinPower Turbo in-line six-cylinder diesel engines.

TwinPower turbo is just marketing speak. It's the brand name that BMW use on ALL of their turbo engines these days, be it petrol, diesel, four cylinders, six cylinders, 12 cylinders, one, two or three turbos.

Altreab

ian87 wrote: »

I'd buy it!! Send me a pm when you decide to sell!

http://www.topgear.com/uk/bmw/3-series/road-test/alpina-d3-lux-driven

I looked into them last year when I was looking for a 320d but they were that little bit too pricey for me.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201307047643205/sort/default/usedcars/fuel-type/diesel/radius/1500/page/1/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/make/bmw/body-type/estate/model/alpina/postcode/bs324nf?logcode=p

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201310219385274/sort/default/usedcars/fuel-type/diesel/radius/1500/page/1/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/make/bmw/body-type/estate/model/alpina/postcode/bs324nf?logcode=p

*Shakes Fist* no No NO ian87.....no tempting me with automotive porn

Sadly the 1 series is way too small for my needs That is a stunning car though Nope the 5 series picked as its got (for me) the required combination of room comfort and driveability i want.

Now if you can find a version like the 1 series above for same price in the 5 series i might be tempted
Altreab

ian87

I'm confused?! Would the 3 series touring based alpina d3 not give almost as much room as the 5 series. The only thing with the 1 series is it shares the engine with the d3..

Altreab

ian87 wrote: »

I'm confused?! Would the 3 series touring based alpina d3 not give almost as much room as the 5 series. The only thing with the 1 series is it shares the engine with the d3..

It works out about 10% less than the 520 and the overall body length is shorter as well. An additional point is the alphina you link to are close to my budget limit and are manual. A Manual can be adapted but it costs a chunk of change to do it.

ian87

Altreab wrote: »

It works out about 10% less than the 520 and the overall body length is shorter as well. An additional point is the alphina you link to are close to my budget limit and are manual. A Manual can be adapted but it costs a chunk of change to do it.

Didn't know that it had to be a auto. I'm not sure but I've a feeling they only come in a manual. Pity as it would have been an unreal change to the status quo. On the 3 series touring, I had an e90 saloon and just switched to a e60 and cabin space is bigger on the e60 but not hugely.

bazz26

F10/F11 is roomier than the E60 though.

Altreab

ian87 wrote: »

Didn't know that it had to be a auto. I'm not sure but I've a feeling they only come in a manual. Pity as it would have been an unreal change to the status quo. On the 3 series touring, I had an e90 saloon and just switched to a e60 and cabin space is bigger on the e60 but not hugely.

the older alphina models did come as an automatic a few 2010 autos on autotrader at the moment.
Its the shape of the space thats as important to me as anything. Bloody hand bike pain in the ass shape still any excuse ;);););)

pa990

I stand corrected.