Stopping and yielding on a side road

Iwannahurl

The driver below, under instruction, drove up to the line as shown.

Is this the correct place to stop?

What is a pedestrian was approaching along the main road?

Would the situation be different if it was a long vehicle such as a bus or truck?

bbam

It's a badly lined junction.
My take would be to stop at the first line if pedistrains were there. And then proceed on to the line where the car is. If you look the actual stop sign is aligned with the line where the car is.

Since there is no zebra crossing markings I'd presume crossing the pedistrian area with a longer vehicle would be no problem.

Iwannahurl

The above location is Maunsells Road in Galway.

There seems to be a practice in Galway City now of placing a waiting area for cars just beyond the 'recommended route' for pedestrians (eg as shown by the dished kerbs and white lines in the photo).

In this case the space (does it even have legal status?) is too small for the medium-sized car shown.

A longer vehicle going up to the last line, left of photo, would straddle the "courtesy crossing" entirely, thereby cancelling out its supposed function.

meathstevie

As long as that driver came to a full stop at the first line marked "STOP" and only moved on when the pedestrian crossing was clear than there's no issues. You can't stay at that stop line for ever anticipating a pedestrain may or may not show up at some time in the future.

There isn't any difference for long vehicles, a clear crossing is a clear crossing.

By the way, from where the line is painted there doesn't appear to be a decent view into the t-junction anyway so my interpretation would be to stop at the line and if the pedestrian crossing is clear go ahead and give way to traffic at the top of the T like you're supposed to do at a t-junction without additional signage anyway.

Days 298

Thats confusing
I presume its a badly designed zebra crossing. If there is a pedestrian you stop at the first line I guess. There is no logic nor is it safer to get cars to come to a complete halt only to roll up to the line and come to a complete stop again if there is no one around but there are two stop lines.


On the other side of the road it looks like a really bad pedestrian crossing. No lights or warning at all.

It appears to have been redesigned. Thats a bad redesign in the picture you have above. Not motorist or pedestrian friendly.

Heres the old one. At least cars know what to do. The new one doesn't have directional arrows (from what I can see in your pic) :rolleyes:.




A proper pedestrian crossing or set of lights for pedestrians further away from the junctions would have made alot more sense than that shambles especially with the children crossing warning on the ground. Thats how it is near the local primary school. The T junction has no place for pedestrians but a futher down before the junction on the straight there is lights that pedestrians can turn red. It works alot better and avoids children being near busy intersections and gives drivers plenty warning to people crossing and forces them to stop.

Happy pedestrians and motorists . We dont enjoy having to break suddenly which is what could happen to someone approaching on the major road who is turning left down into the Maunsells Road especially if they arent local and dont know about the crossing.