Pope Francis - Target?

wildefalcon

Even as a sceptic, I am starting to consider the current vicar of Rome, Francis, a decent person. The noises he makes, and the actions he takes, suggest a degree of sincerity that is refreshing.

I wonder how long he'll be let keep making pronouncements about corruption, reconciliation, and other similar uplifting and reassuring comments.

Who will remove this disturbing, disruptive and (so far)humble man?

Will it be the FUD mongers?

Will it be the Mafia or Bankers?

Will it be the Vatican civil service?

Or will the ghost of John Paul protect him?

Sir Osis of Liver.

Might choke to death or poison himself.

shanered

Body of Christ. Amen.

SoulandForm

He is there because he knows how to play the media; a far better man was forced down because he wouldnt. If Pope Benedict was to cowardly what on earth to expect for a Jesuit????

wildefalcon wrote: »

Even as a sceptic, I am starting to consider the current vicar of Rome, Francis, a decent person. The noises he makes, and the actions he takes, suggest a degree of sincerity that is refreshing.

I wonder how long he'll be let keep making pronouncements about corruption, reconciliation, and other similar uplifting and reassuring comments.

Who will remove this disturbing, disruptive and (so far)humble man?

Will it be the FUD mongers?

Will it be the Mafia or Bankers?

Will it be the Vatican civil service?

Or will the ghost of John Paul protect him?

Balaclava1991

I think the guy with the tail will get him.

mickdw

I think he will die in his sleep within a year.

Paddycrumlinman

Nothing will happen to him, he was put there to do "damage control" since the church, and right so is crumbling.

Look at it this way, A company has bad press and the current administrative team need to do something to get the customers back. So they decide lets make a big change, lets blow smoke up the customers arses and fool them into thinking were getting out crap together.

That's what the Catholic Church is doing, it's a PR Stunt to give its followers some sense of good about the Catholic Church. He is a placement so therefore, nothing will happen to him.

CorsendonkX

Americans, conservative American priests have come out against him preaching about poverty in the last couple of months. Just look at the amount of donations and funding they get for pushing the pro-life agenda much of it ending up in family accounts after they die. Battling poverty and living humbly doesn't pay for trips to Vegas. Might be more of a split in the Church rather than a grassy knoll moment.

Torakx

Maybe eventually the church will split up into three factions. One will be sacrificed to keep the other two going. Another will lead and the last will be like a spiritual army for the next world war... the great war.

lol just need to squeeze a virgin in there somewhere..

Or... maybe not.

Brown Bomber

I don't know so much about him, but I like what he has to say. He is going against imperialism, the banksters and materialism.

I. Some challenges of today’s world [52-75]

No to an economy of exclusion [53-54]
No to the new idolatry of money [55-56]
No to a financial system which rules rather than serves [57-58]
No to the inequality which spawns violence [59-60]
Some cultural challenges [61-67]
Challenges to inculturating the faith [68-70]
Challenges from urban cultures [71-75]

CHAPTER TWO

AMID THE CRISIS
OF COMMUNAL COMMITMENT

(excerpt)
51. It is not the task of the Pope to offer a detailed and complete analysis of contemporary reality, but I do exhort all the communities to an “ever watchful scrutiny of the signs of the times”.[54] This is in fact a grave responsibility, since certain present realities, unless effectively dealt with, are capable of setting off processes of dehumanization which would then be hard to reverse. We need to distinguish clearly what might be a fruit of the kingdom from what runs counter to God’s plan. This involves not only recognizing and discerning spirits, but also – and this is decisive – choosing movements of the spirit of good and rejecting those of the spirit of evil. I take for granted the different analyses which other documents of the universal magisterium have offered, as well as those proposed by the regional and national conferences of bishops. In this Exhortation I claim only to consider briefly, and from a pastoral perspective, certain factors which can restrain or weaken the impulse of missionary renewal in the Church, either because they threaten the life and dignity of God’s people or because they affect those who are directly involved in the Church’s institutions and in her work of evangelization.


 Some challenges of today’s world
52. In our time humanity is experiencing a turning-point in its history, as we can see from the advances being made in so many fields. We can only praise the steps being taken to improve people’s welfare in areas such as health care, education and communications. At the same time we have to remember that the majority of our contemporaries are barely living from day to day, with dire consequences. A number of diseases are spreading. The hearts of many people are gripped by fear and desperation, even in the so-called rich countries. The joy of living frequently fades, lack of respect for others and violence are on the rise, and inequality is increasingly evident. It is a struggle to live and, often, to live with precious little dignity. This epochal change has been set in motion by the enormous qualitative, quantitative, rapid and cumulative advances occuring in the sciences and in technology, and by their instant application in different areas of nature and of life. We are in an age of knowledge and information, which has led to new and often anonymous kinds of power.

No to an economy of exclusion
53. Just as the commandment “Thou shalt not kill” sets a clear limit in order to safeguard the value of human life, today we also have to say “thou shalt not” to an economy of exclusion and inequality. Such an economy kills. How can it be that it is not a news item when an elderly homeless person dies of exposure, but it is news when the stock market loses two points? This is a case of exclusion. Can we continue to stand by when food is thrown away while people are starving? This is a case of inequality. Today everything comes under the laws of competition and the survival of the fittest, where the powerful feed upon the powerless. As a consequence, masses of people find themselves excluded and marginalized: without work, without possibilities, without any means of escape.
Human beings are themselves considered consumer goods to be used and then discarded. We have created a “throw away” culture which is now spreading. It is no longer simply about exploitation and oppression, but something new. Exclusion ultimately has to do with what it means to be a part of the society in which we live; those excluded are no longer society’s underside or its fringes or its disenfranchised – they are no longer even a part of it. The excluded are not the “exploited” but the outcast, the “leftovers”.


54. In this context, some people continue to defend trickle-down theories which assume that economic growth, encouraged by a free market, will inevitably succeed in bringing about greater justice and inclusiveness in the world. This opinion, which has never been confirmed by the facts, expresses a crude and naïve trust in the goodness of those wielding economic power and in the sacralized workings of the prevailing economic system. Meanwhile, the excluded are still waiting. To sustain a lifestyle which excludes others, or to sustain enthusiasm for that selfish ideal, a globalization of indifference has developed. Almost without being aware of it, we end up being incapable of feeling compassion at the outcry of the poor, weeping for other people’s pain, and feeling a need to help them, as though all this were someone else’s responsibility and not our own. The culture of prosperity deadens us; we are thrilled if the market offers us something new to purchase. In the meantime all those lives stunted for lack of opportunity seem a mere spectacle; they fail to move us.


No to the new idolatry of money
55. One cause of this situation is found in our relationship with money, since we calmly accept its dominion over ourselves and our societies. The current financial crisis can make us overlook the fact that it originated in a profound human crisis: the denial of the primacy of the human person! We have created new idols. The worship of the ancient golden calf (cf. Ex 32:1-35) has returned in a new and ruthless guise in the idolatry of money and the dictatorship of an impersonal economy lacking a truly human purpose. The worldwide crisis affecting finance and the economy lays bare their imbalances and, above all, their lack of real concern for human beings; man is reduced to one of his needs alone: consumption.


56. While the earnings of a minority are growing exponentially, so too is the gap separating the majority from the prosperity enjoyed by those happy few. This imbalance is the result of ideologies which defend the absolute autonomy of the marketplace and financial speculation. Consequently, they reject the right of states, charged with vigilance for the common good, to exercise any form of control. A new tyranny is thus born, invisible and often virtual, which unilaterally and relentlessly imposes its own laws and rules. Debt and the accumulation of interest also make it difficult for countries to realize the potential of their own economies and keep citizens from enjoying their real purchasing power. To all this we can add widespread corruption and self-serving tax evasion, which have taken on worldwide dimensions. The thirst for power and possessions knows no limits. In this system, which tends to devour everything which stands in the way of increased profits, whatever is fragile, like the environment, is defenseless before the interests of a deified market, which become the only rule.


No to a financial system which rules rather than serves
57. Behind this attitude lurks a rejection of ethics and a rejection of God. Ethics has come to be viewed with a certain scornful derision. It is seen as counterproductive, too human, because it makes money and power relative. It is felt to be a threat, since it condemns the manipulation and debasement of the person. In effect, ethics leads to a God who calls for a committed response which is outside the categories of the marketplace. When these latter are absolutized, God can only be seen as uncontrollable, unmanageable, even dangerous, since he calls human beings to their full realization and to freedom from all forms of enslavement. Ethics – a non-ideological ethics – would make it possible to bring about balance and a more humane social order. With this in mind, I encourage financial experts and political leaders to ponder the words of one of the sages of antiquity: “Not to share one’s wealth with the poor is to steal from them and to take away their livelihood. It is not our own goods which we hold, but theirs”.[55]


58. A financial reform open to such ethical considerations would require a vigorous change of approach on the part of political leaders. I urge them to face this challenge with determination and an eye to the future, while not ignoring, of course, the specifics of each case. Money must serve, not rule! The Pope loves everyone, rich and poor alike, but he is obliged in the name of Christ to remind all that the rich must help, respect and promote the poor. I exhort you to generous solidarity and to the return of economics and finance to an ethical approach which favours human beings.


No to the inequality which spawns violence
59. Today in many places we hear a call for greater security. But until exclusion and inequality in society and between peoples are reversed, it will be impossible to eliminate violence. The poor and the poorer peoples are accused of violence, yet without equal opportunities the different forms of aggression and conflict will find a fertile terrain for growth and eventually explode. When a society – whether local, national or global – is willing to leave a part of itself on the fringes, no political programmes or resources spent on law enforcement or surveillance systems can indefinitely guarantee tranquility. This is not the case simply because inequality provokes a violent reaction from those excluded from the system, but because the socioeconomic system is unjust at its root. Just as goodness tends to spread, the toleration of evil, which is injustice, tends to expand its baneful influence and quietly to undermine any political and social system, no matter how solid it may appear. If every action has its consequences, an evil embedded in the structures of a society has a constant potential for disintegration and death. It is evil crystallized in unjust social structures, which cannot be the basis of hope for a better future. We are far from the so-called “end of history”, since the conditions for a sustainable and peaceful development have not yet been adequately articulated and realized.


60. Today’s economic mechanisms promote inordinate consumption, yet it is evident that unbridled consumerism combined with inequality proves doubly damaging to the social fabric. Inequality eventually engenders a violence which recourse to arms cannot and never will be able to resolve. It serves only to offer false hopes to those clamouring for heightened security, even though nowadays we know that weapons and violence, rather than providing solutions, create new and more serious conflicts. Some simply content themselves with blaming the poor and the poorer countries themselves for their troubles; indulging in unwarranted generalizations, they claim that the solution is an “education” that would tranquilize them, making them tame and harmless. All this becomes even more exasperating for the marginalized in the light of the widespread and deeply rooted corruption found in many countries – in their governments, businesses and institutions – whatever the political ideology of their leaders

onestophutbunk

I can see a connection between the date that Pope Francis was elected last March and this coming Friday 13th (which will be an occult date of great significance to the worlds ruling Satanists).

Whether it is an assassination attempt on himself or of someone else of high importance such as Barack Obama. I do believe that the Pope will be a key player. In recent months the Vatican committee has been working overtime on PR with this man.

I also believe that Nelson Mandela died months ago and was in cold storage waiting for this perfect once off occult date to line up. Barack Obama didn't even meet him last summer which was more than likely because he was dead already.

For the next week every nation and creed across the globe will have eyes on what will be perhaps the largest televised event witnessed by mankind since the invention of television. What an excellent opportunity to host the mother of all false flags and deceive the world with the Antichrist.

Next Friday is the 13th of December 2013 and is unique because it triplicates the number "13".

13/12/2013 = 1+3+1+2+2+0+1+3 = 13 Total 13+13+13.

If you also multiply the counting numbers of that date you will get "36" which of course is the triangular root of 666. :eek:

If you add up all the integers from 1 to 36 you will get 666.

One may ask me how dose the Pope connect with all this?.

Pope Francis was also elected on a triplicated occult "13" date. 13th March 2013.

13/03/2013 = 1+3+1+2+2+0+1+3 =13 Total 13+13+13.

RGDATA!

onestophutbunk wrote: »

I can see a connection between the date that Pope Francis was elected last March and this coming Friday 13th (which will be an occult date of great significance to the worlds ruling Satanists).

Whether it is an assassination attempt on himself or of someone else of high importance such as Barack Obama. I do believe that the Pope will be a key player. In recent months the Vatican committee has been working overtime on PR with this man.

I also believe that Nelson Mandela died months ago and was in cold storage waiting for this perfect once off occult date to line up. Barack Obama didn't even meet him last summer which was more than likely because he was dead already.

For the next week every nation and creed across the globe will have eyes on what will be perhaps the largest televised event witnessed by mankind since the invention of television. What an excellent opportunity to host the mother of all false flags and deceive the world with the Antichrist.

Next Friday is the 13th of December 2013 and is unique because it triplicates the number "13".

13/12/2013 = 1+3+1+2+2+0+1+3 = 13 Total 13+13+13.

If you also multiply the counting numbers of that date you will get "36" which of course is the triangular root of 666. :eek:

If you add up all the integers from 1 to 36 you will get 666.

One may ask me how dose the Pope connect with all this?.

Pope Francis was also elected on a triplicated occult "13" date. 13th March 2013.

13/03/2013 = 1+3+1+2+2+0+1+3 =13 Total 13+13+13.

Hopefully the pope has run to the hills, so to speak, to avoid assassination today. Incidentally, there are at least 28 other days this year which have this supposed "triplicated occult 13 date", which seems disappointingly common. So there's still a chance that this could happen on the 22nd, or 31st of this month.

Torakx

All the numerology people on the dark and light side have their fingers crossed :P
Hoping to have their faith reaffirmed hehe