No motor tax before logbook received. Will be caught?

RichDING

Hi, just bought a car and will drive it back from dealer tomorrow. Will I be caught for not having tax before I can pay it? I live in north Dublin.

I presume it will take 1 week or so to sort out the change of ownership and paying the tax.

Will I be caught if I drive and park at shopping centre car park and likes?

Usually how do they spot cars without tax please? e.g. Will they catch people at IKEA car park?

Many many thanks!

corktina

you have 10 days to tax it

RichDING

corktina wrote: »

you have 10 days to tax it

Thanks very much!

1) Can I drive it during that time (within 10 days after I bought it) please?
2) will the traffic warden know my situation from their system? Or I can ring somebody if I got a ticket?

dumbyearbook

RichDING wrote: »

Hi, just bought a car and will drive it back from dealer tomorrow. Will I be caught for not having tax before I can pay it? I live in north Dublin.

I presume it will take 1 week or so to sort out the change of ownership and paying the tax.

Will I be caught if I drive and park at shopping centre car park and likes?

Usually how do they spot cars without tax please? e.g. Will they catch people at IKEA car park?

Many many thanks!

yea Ikea in particular

RichDING

dumbyearbook wrote: »

yea Ikea in particular

Was planing to go to IKEA next week.
Do you mean there will be somebody give me ticket if I park in IKEA please?

stoutykid

eh I don't think so.... I got caught for a fine for no tax by parking on the street the same day I collected my car back from the garage. I appealed the fine but lost as the law is you shouldn't have a car on the road that is not taxed. This is despite me being able to prove that I taxed the car a few days later and I had a time and dated copy of the change of ownership form that I submitted. You can now tax a car online without log book. I believe the gardai may be more understanding. Be careful where you park if you risk it would be my advice

wotzgoingon

I bought a car a few years ago and drove into a check point and was fined for not displaying a tax disc. Bítch of a ban guarda.

RichDING

stoutykid wrote: »

eh I don't think so.... I got caught for a fine for no tax by parking on the street the same day I collected my car back from the garage. I appealed the fine but lost as the law is you shouldn't have a car on the road that is not taxed. This is despite me being able to prove that I taxed the car a few days later and I had a time and dated copy of the change of ownership form that I submitted. You can now tax a car online without log book. I believe the gardai may be more understanding. Be careful where you park if you risk it would be my advice

Thank you very much!

From my understanding, the change of ownership will take several days instead of immediately. If I pay now online, I will have to pay for the past 6 month for the previous owner. That's why I though I should wait for the change of ownership before I tax it.

Am I wrong at this please?

corktina

wotzgoingon wrote: »

I bought a car a few years ago and drove into a check point and was fined for not displaying a tax disc. Bítch of a ban guarda doing her job.

FYP

RichDING

wotzgoingon wrote: »

I bought a car a few years ago and drove into a check point and was fined for not displaying a tax disc. Bítch of a ban guarda.

Many thanks for sharing. Sorry to hear that and that was so unfair!

RichDING

corktina wrote: »

FYP

Noted. Thanks!

slimjimmc

corktina wrote: »

you have 10 days to tax it

There is no grace for motor tax, unless it is a very very new law change. The legal position was (and I believe still is) always zero grace for no tax.

Are you confusing it with the 10 days grace that you are legally allowed to drive around without an insurance disc after you started a new term of insurance?

wotzgoingon

corktina wrote: »

FYP

Not really i forgot to mention it was the next day after I bought the car. And for your information I always do and always will tax my car.

stoutykid

I believe you can tax it at the tax office rather than on line and maybe this would avoid paying the arrears. I was in fact the time I was fined not even the registered owner as the form wasn't even in Shannon, it was still with the dealer. But this wasn't accepted and I had to pay the fine. Believe me I was not impressed and argued my case. It made no sense to me because technically you shouldn't collect your new car until you are legally the owner and are display a tax disc...!! In theory you should hand over the cash, complete paper work and wait for tax disc to be posted before you drive your new car home...!!

dantastic

I just bought a car recently that was declared off the road.

After having viewed the car I took the log book with me. Went in to the motortax office and put it back on the road. They gave me a tax disc there and then.

I brought the disk with to pick up the car and I got the new log book in the post just a couple of days after.

RichDING

stoutykid wrote: »

I believe you can tax it at the tax office rather than on line and maybe this would avoid paying the arrears. I was in fact the time I was fined not even the registered owner as the form wasn't even in Shannon, it was still with the dealer. But this wasn't accepted and I had to pay the fine. Believe me I was not impressed and argued my case. It made no sense to me because technically you shouldn't collect your new car until you are legally the owner and are display a tax disc...!! In theory you should hand over the cash, complete paper work and wait for tax disc to be posted before you drive your new car home...!!

Many many thanks!! I really appreciate it.

I will follow your advise.:)

wotzgoingon

dantastic wrote: »

I just bought a car recently that was declared off the road.

After having viewed the car I took the log book with me. Went in to the motortax office and put it back on the road. They gave me a tax disc there and then.

I brought the disk with to pick up the car and I got the new log book in the post just a couple of days after.

And what about NCT? Did you drive it home with out that?

dantastic

wotzgoingon wrote: »

And what about NCT? Did you drive it home with out that?

The car had a valid NCT already.

Tax office never asked for one anyway. They just wanted insurance details. (And money obviously )

Zoney

Called into tax office in person here, they confirmed I couldn't tax it yet, but stamped the form as approved and provided a short letter. Had the dated receipt from garage also, so felt I'd be covered with the Garda if stopped.

Didn't park on a public road though - multistory/shopping centre/driveways only. Traffic warden isn't going to exercise discretion for a parked car, whereas you can at least explain to a Garda that you meet.

stoutykid

Zoney wrote: »

Traffic warden isn't going to exercise discretion for a parked car, whereas you can at least explain to a Garda that you meet.

I agree on this. However you would think that via an appeal with the traffic section in the council that they would be more understanding once you can back up your claim with documentation. They would appear to now have a zero tolerance policy. I was pretty pevved as I was in no way trying to avoid paying tax just waiting for change of ownership form to come back to me and to complete online which I usually do. The whole system in my opinion is a bit silly given the systerm in Ireland dictates that you need to post off the change of ownership form.

Anyway valuable lesson learnt on my behalf....!

RichDING

Thanks a mil for all the replies.

No Pants

wotzgoingon wrote: »

I bought a car a few years ago and drove into a check point and was fined for not displaying a tax disc. Bítch of a ban guarda.

That was harsh. I was stopped one afternoon, about 2 hours after I'd bought the car. Guard accepted the receipt and waved me on. Car was insured and didn't require an NCT just yet.

Traffic wardens just look to whether a valid tax disc is present or not. I would avoid parking where they operate until you have a disc.

When I bought a car earlier this year, I kept checking the motortax website every day. Had to chase the dealer once. As soon as it showed up under my name, I requested a PIN and taxed it. Printed the receipt and put it in the glovebox until the disc arrived.