Bad areas in Cork city - mainly douglas street

Ritchiii

Hey,

I'm looking to move into Douglas street within the week and curious of the area. Ive rang the Garda Station nearby and he was wary of the area but does anyone have a first hand perspective?

People being jumped at night? Save to walk home in the dark? Junkies? Scum drinking nearby stopping people etc?

Cheers!

Gamb!t

Ritchiii wrote: »

Hey,

I'm looking to move into Douglas street within the week and curious of the area. Ive rang the Garda Station nearby and he was wary of the area but does anyone have a first hand perspective?

People being jumped at night? Save to walk home in the dark? Junkies? Scum drinking nearby stopping people etc?

Cheers!

Douglas St is ok,I lived near there before, just watch out for Rutland St off Douglas St and there is another(white st?) across from the Gables Bar.
OK in the day time dodge at night..

Ritchiii

The house is right on the corner between douglas and white street near that graffiti carpark... Im guessing its a no go then? The house is so cheap though would it really be worth it? Any opinions on Ballyphehane area?

Gamb!t

Ballyphehane can be hit and miss,have you a car or are you restricted the living in the City ?
A couple of things to watch out for renting in Cork is dampness and poor letting agency's.

Ritchiii

I'm without a car just bicycle at the moment. City centre locations would be ideal but from what I can see theres not many. Tower street and Nicholas street are other housings but they're all in the similiar area.

Gamb!t

douglas st isnt bad just watch those streets late at night.
Dont want to throw the thread off topic..

corkgsxr

Same as anywhere just be wary of walking down dark unlit sidestreets

Ritchiii

Does anyone in Cork not walk through dark streets to get to their home though? Are ye saying avoid the area or avoid certain streets and take another street to get to my house on Douglas street?

corkgsxr

No im just saying be aware. Bit of sense while your walking

Ritchiii

By sense you mean to or not to walk down a certain street right? Otherwise I don't get what good sense will do you walking into unknown danger. Its just a risk towards my partner I'm worried about

Rhys Essien

Ritchiii wrote: »

The house is right on the corner between douglas and white street near that graffiti carpark... Im guessing its a no go then? The house is so cheap though would it really be worth it? Any opinions on Ballyphehane area?

This incident was probably a one off and might not happen again.See here.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/icrime/spanish-man-recovering-after-assault-with-golf-club-by-gang-181376.html

Faith

I'm not a fan of Douglas Street at all, tbh. I don't like it at any time of the day!

The White Street car park attracts a lot of youths drinking, and winos/junkies seem to like it too. I wouldn't walk down there at night myself.

Then again, I'm quite a wuss so that's a factor. But I wouldn't live there.

Ritchiii

One of the pieces in that article you sent mentioned its not the first attack down this area. I think Ill give it a miss for now. Shame, nice house and cheap price.

mik_da_man

Ritchiii wrote: »

One of the pieces in that article you sent mentioned its not the first attack down this area. I think Ill give it a miss for now. Shame, nice house and cheap price.

I lived in white street for 3 years.
Never had any hassle at all.
Used to walk up to the fionnbarra on Douglas street and back many times.
Yes you may need to be a bit aware of your surroundings but it's not a dangerous place IMO.

CB19Kevo

Lived on Douglas street a few years back and would be of the opinion that its one of the nicest areas to live, Never had any trouble myself and used regular walk back there between 1 and 3 am.

Unless it has gone way downhill in the last 3 years ?

hoodwinked

CB19Kevo wrote: »

Lived on Douglas street a few years back and would be of the opinion that its one of the nicest areas to live, Never had any trouble myself and used regular walk back there between 1 and 3 am.

Unless it has gone way downhill in the last 3 years ?

i lived there 7 years ago, and to be honest i never had a seconds hassle walking back there at 2am or after,

so again unless its gone downhill in recent years, the only problems we had were parking related...

AugustusMinimus

Lived in the area for a number of years and never had trouble.

I will say though, keep your eyes open when walking around there late at night. I also wouldn't go anywhere near the near by Cobh Street late at night. The back of the old tax office is notorious for drunks and drug selling.

dj_

CB19Kevo wrote: »

Lived on Douglas street a few years back and would be of the opinion that its one of the nicest areas to live, Never had any trouble myself and used regular walk back there between 1 and 3 am.

Unless it has gone way downhill in the last 3 years ?

My brother lived there for the last year. He had no problems whatsoever.

There a more homeless about the area than others but I would rate it as a perfectly safe area to live in.

Femme_Fatale

Wouldn't view Douglas Street as dodgy at all. Kinda more bohemian and arty. As said, best to exercise caution walking down the side streets off it late at night (and avoid being alone) but that's applicable anywhere.

razorblunt

I've known of a few people being attacked walking home at night. As such it would be somewhere I wouldn't take the chance with and would choose to look elsewhere.

Ritchiii

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Wouldn't view Douglas Street as dodgy at all. Kinda more bohemian and arty. As said, best to exercise caution walking down the side streets off it late at night (and avoid being alone) but that's applicable anywhere.

True that is the safe option, but if you're living at the corner of douglas and white right near that dodgy car park then walking home every night with another person is not always an option, going a different route back could help i.e avoiding the car park but whats to say a gang of them isn't around any of those corners.

Its not really a choice being careful in those areas, taking somebody with you etc when your home is right in the middle of it

Faith

Ritchiii wrote: »

True that is the safe option, but if you're living at the corner of douglas and white right near that dodgy car park then walking home every night with another person is not always an option, going a different route back could help i.e avoiding the car park but whats to say a gang of them isn't around any of those corners.

Its not really a choice being careful in those areas, taking somebody with you etc when your home is right in the middle of it

That's the thing, I wouldn't walk home late at night on my own, and it's too close to town to really get a cab. It leaves you in a pickle if you're out with friends or whatnot.

You could look at the Albert road/ jewtown/ Victoria road area. Not quite as close to town, but still very close. I've lived there in the past and felt fairly safe there.

murphym7

I drank in the pubs all around the area for years up to recentlty. I never had any trouble or seen any trouble. And I would have been pounding the pavements at the "dodgy" times. I would not have a problem living there personally. It a shame the White house and Exchange bars are closed (few years back now!)

Ritchiii

murphym7 wrote: »

I drank in the pubs all around the area for years up to recentlty. I never had any trouble or seen any trouble. And I would have been pounding the pavements at the "dodgy" times. I would not have a problem living there personally. It a shame the White house and Exchange bars are closed (few years back now!)

That's the other thing, others like yourself are mentioning a few years back that everything was fine but there's nothing more recent on someone being there regularly. I have friends living nearby on Barrack street and they say its fine but maybe its just that one area, Douglas and white st.

Everyone mentions "what are the odds" that something might happen, that it could be once off you'll get any trouble but if you're living there walking home every night you're within that one time something could happen and it could be you

who_me

I don't think there really are any bad areas of the city centre as such, at 2-4am in the morning on many nights pretty much anywhere in any city centre in the country is a bit dodgy, sad to say.

I've lived in Togher (very bad name), Barrack St. (had a bad reputation) and on Hanover St. (very manic at 2am); yet the only times I've ever had hassle in Cork were on Sullivan's Quay, and Patrick's Bridge; neither of which you'd pick as bad areas.

murphym7

Ritchiii wrote: »

That's the other thing, others like yourself are mentioning a few years back that everything was fine but there's nothing more recent on someone being there regularly. I have friends living nearby on Barrack street and they say its fine but maybe its just that one area, Douglas and white st.

Everyone mentions "what are the odds" that something might happen, that it could be once off you'll get any trouble but if you're living there walking home every night you're within that one time something could happen and it could be you

I said up to recently, as in up to a few months ago. Can't speak to anything more recent than August or so, sorry;)

The area is grand, I dont know if you are looking for us to talk you out if it though?

ROY RACE

Ritchiii wrote: »

The house is right on the corner between douglas and white street near that graffiti carpark... Im guessing its a no go then? The house is so cheap though would it really be worth it? Any opinions on Ballyphehane area?

that's where a Spanish guy got attacked with a golf club-I wouldn't live around there if you paid me.During the day its rough at night its like the wild west

SusieBlue

Its okay if you have your wits about you. Its somewhat seedy in appearance and as a PP said, the car park is notorious for antisocial behaviour. Its grand by day, but if you were to regularly be out and about in the late hours, you'd need to be on your guard.

Ballyphehane is lovely and doesn't deserve its reputation at all. I've lived there my whole life and never had any bit of trouble.

Another central area that might interest you is Greenmount. Apart from Desmond Square, which is somewhat rough. Greenmount has a very old population and most people living there would be senior citizens. Very nice and quiet enough, imo.

hassy

I live just off Douglas street, in a block of apartments where by my sitting room sliding doors look out onto the graffiti car park. have lived here for 3 years without any problems, everyday i walk rutland street many times between going to the shop and coughlans bar and fionnbarras bar, and at all times of day and night. my girlfriend also does the same, again never any hassle.
in the summer you do get a few of the auld fella drunks that sit on a wall just by my apartment, these guys are no trouble, they're happy out just havin a few cans, dont bother anyone, on the rare occasion that one of the drunks is shouting etc, the other lads usually tell him to move on to avoid any attention being brought on them
Of course anywhere can be slightly dodgy late at night, but to be honest i walk those streets many tines at 12-3am and never felt threatened, I cant say the same about the center of town at that time

Léan

I've never had issues with Douglas st, I live close by and my route home is generally via Red Abbey St, Douglas St and High St (walking). I'm usually on my own and have never had a single issue, be it and 2pm or 2am.

Tbh i've always thought that part of town had a certain charm about it, but maybe that's just me .

Metacarpi

Lived there for a year up till Sept just passed and never had any hassle. there's a few drunks around the place but they're harmless apart from shouting at passerby's the odd time :P would defo live there again.

Femme_Fatale

ROY RACE wrote: »

that's where a Spanish guy got attacked with a golf club-I wouldn't live around there if you paid me.During the day its rough at night its like the wild west

One guy got attacked a few years ago - ok that is atrocious, but could happen in a lot of places late at night. I'm not saying that's a minor thing - it isn't, but it is a once-off. White Street overall really is not rough throughout the day in the sense of absolutely no-go. And "wild west" at night? FFS. I'm not saying people have to have lived in Harlem to know what rough is, but the above descriptions are utterly ludicrous. I grew up in a very quiet area btw. White Street isn't all of Douglas Street anyway - it's a small piece at the very end.

WhiteRoses wrote: »

Ballyphehane is lovely and doesn't deserve its reputation at all. I've lived there my whole life and never had any bit of trouble.

+1. Ok parts of Ballyphehane had a bit of a bad-ass reputation many years ago - and I stress: parts. But otherwise it's a totally quiet, old people suburb.

Ritchiii

Would Douglas and White fall under the same kind of youth destruction as Turner Cross, Friars St or Dominick St?

Bacchus

Ritchiii wrote: »

I'm without a car just bicycle at the moment. City centre locations would be ideal but from what I can see theres not many. Tower street and Nicholas street are other housings but they're all in the similiar area.

I lived on Tower Street before. Never had a problem at all. That street (and the few off from it) are all quite quiet, never had any trouble. Doesn't mean you shouldn't use common sense if walking home alone at night.

My wife used to live on Douglas street too (and we currently live not far from it), never had a problem. There are few homeless people who hang around nearby drinking but I wouldn't consider them a danger.

Ritchiii wrote: »

Does anyone in Cork not walk through dark streets to get to their home though? Are ye saying avoid the area or avoid certain streets and take another street to get to my house on Douglas street?

I live on Evergreen Road. Probably as safe an area as I've ever been in Cork. However, I do not walk home any more late at night. I've witnessed a few incidents in the past year (mostly near Barrack's street, after you cross the bridge from South Main street) that has put me off. It's not that the areas are bad, but it's the route in/out of town for a lot of people and it can get messy.

who_me wrote: »

I don't think there really are any bad areas of the city centre as such, at 2-4am in the morning on many nights pretty much anywhere in any city centre in the country is a bit dodgy, sad to say.

I've lived in Togher (very bad name), Barrack St. (had a bad reputation) and on Hanover St. (very manic at 2am); yet the only times I've ever had hassle in Cork were on Sullivan's Quay, and Patrick's Bridge; neither of which you'd pick as bad areas.

I'd pretty much agree with this. It's a sad truth that you could just be in the wrong place at the wrong time anywhere in the city. The areas the OP mentioned Tower Street & Douglas street are decent areas but in saying that, use common sense when deciding to walk home at night.

beer enigma

Ritchiii wrote: »

Would Douglas and White fall under the same kind of youth destruction as Turner Cross, Friars St or Dominick St?

Not quite sure what you're trying to achieve with comments like this, but if it's an attempt to flame you will find yourself on the end of a ban.

opus

I've lived on Cove St for a good few years and apart from wino's & teenagers hanging around the back of the old FAS building it's fine. They tend to drift away at night thankfully. Wouldn't have any problem walking down Douglas St at night & have done many a time as plenty nice pubs there.

Ritchiii

Andip wrote: »

Not quite sure what you're trying to achieve with comments like this, but if it's an attempt to flame you will find yourself on the end of a ban.

Don't get the wrong idea, honestly I'm trying to be 100% before moving some place full time for the sake of my family. It was the Garda Station I had called that mentioned "youth destruction" in the area in terms of that car park on White street and as I mentioned before the accommodation I'm looking at is on the corner of Douglas and White street.

Reports of heroin dealers/users as well as drunk youths were the major issue from the information I was given online and the Gardai.

Ritchiii

Andip wrote: »

Not quite sure what you're trying to achieve with comments like this, but if it's an attempt to flame you will find yourself on the end of a ban.

Apologies I re-read what I wrote, I meant is Turner Cross etc similiar in terms of the vandalising and lingering youths drinking on white street car park.

I meant no offense.

Faith

I live in Turner's Cross and there's no issues at all here. Heavy traffic is about as bad as it gets.

Cavitation

I've lived in this area for the last 11 years and I've never had any trouble..It's a city centre location and with any city centre location in any city in the country,you are gonna get your undesirables(junks and drunks),but not necessarily trouble makers.Most trouble occurs from people who do not live in the area and are 'passing through' or are out looking for hassle anyway!!Any incidents are ususally isolated and could happen anywhere be it Douglas/Ballyphehane or any where else.But I'm not saying it is a dodgy area with dodgy people.If you are that concerned about the area,look to reside somewhere else,cos you sound like a nervous wreck to me!!!

Straight Talker

Ritchiii wrote: »

Hey,

I'm looking to move into Douglas street within the week and curious of the area. Ive rang the Garda Station nearby and he was wary of the area but does anyone have a first hand perspective?

People being jumped at night? Save to walk home in the dark? Junkies? Scum drinking nearby stopping people etc?

Cheers!

Ritchiii wrote: »

The house is right on the corner between douglas and white street near that graffiti carpark... Im guessing its a no go then? The house is so cheap though would it really be worth it? Any opinions on Ballyphehane area?

Ritchiii wrote: »

I'm without a car just bicycle at the moment. City centre locations would be ideal but from what I can see theres not many. Tower street and Nicholas street are other housings but they're all in the similiar area.

Ritchiii wrote: »

Does anyone in Cork not walk through dark streets to get to their home though? Are ye saying avoid the area or avoid certain streets and take another street to get to my house on Douglas street?

Ritchiii wrote: »

By sense you mean to or not to walk down a certain street right? Otherwise I don't get what good sense will do you walking into unknown danger. Its just a risk towards my partner I'm worried about

Ritchiii wrote: »

One of the pieces in that article you sent mentioned its not the first attack down this area. I think Ill give it a miss for now. Shame, nice house and cheap price.

Ritchiii wrote: »

True that is the safe option, but if you're living at the corner of douglas and white right near that dodgy car park then walking home every night with another person is not always an option, going a different route back could help i.e avoiding the car park but whats to say a gang of them isn't around any of those corners.

Its not really a choice being careful in those areas, taking somebody with you etc when your home is right in the middle of it

Ritchiii wrote: »

That's the other thing, others like yourself are mentioning a few years back that everything was fine but there's nothing more recent on someone being there regularly. I have friends living nearby on Barrack street and they say its fine but maybe its just that one area, Douglas and white st.

Everyone mentions "what are the odds" that something might happen, that it could be once off you'll get any trouble but if you're living there walking home every night you're within that one time something could happen and it could be you

Ritchiii wrote: »

Would Douglas and White fall under the same kind of youth destruction as Turner Cross, Friars St or Dominick St?

Maybe this is paranoia but me thinks this is a subtle troll.Probably some Dub with an inferiority complex or something!

Straight Talker

Cavitation wrote: »

I've lived in this area for the last 11 years and I've never had any trouble..It's a city centre location and with any city centre location in any city in the country,you are gonna get your undesirables(junks and drunks),but not necessarily trouble makers.Most trouble occurs from people who do not live in the area and are 'passing through' or are out looking for hassle anyway!!Any incidents are ususally isolated and could happen anywhere be it Douglas/Ballyphehane or any where else.But I'm not saying it is a dodgy area with dodgy people.If you are that concerned about the area,look to reside somewhere else,cos you sound like a nervous wreck to me!!!

Either a nervous wreck or a troll anyway.I wonder which one?

macker33

Ritchiii wrote: »

Any opinions on Ballyphehane area?

Ballyphehane is A-ok.:D

usersame

I worked in a pub there, it's one of the rougher parts of cork but it is the city centre so there's a limit on how bad it's allowed get. There can be large groups of teenagers hanging around which a lot of people don't like. That car park in particular I'd avoid at night. It's not south central LA but stuff can kick off around there http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/icrime/spanish-man-recovering-after-assault-with-golf-club-by-gang-181376.html

sawdoubters

are you thinking of bad flooding


https://www.google.com/search?q=cork+floods&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=q4v5UqnUNIy2rgGXyIDwAQ&ved=0CC0QsAQ&biw=1366&bih=622

gobnaitolunacy

The incident with the Spanish guy is a very rare thing to happen, I'd be more nervious around Dublin city centre of bad sh!t going down than I ever would of Cork.

Cork has a good share of junkies, beggars and drunks, annoying but harmless for the most part. Teens hanging around in gangs, there's not a whole lot of places they can go if they're not old enough to be let into pubs and if they're not proactive in engaging in 'useful' hobbies or sport.

Red Nissan

Ritchiii wrote: »

The house is right on the corner between douglas and white street near that graffiti carpark... Im guessing its a no go then? The house is so cheap though would it really be worth it? Any opinions on Ballyphehane area?

Sounds exactly like the house my son had up to last summer. Two years there and no trouble for them, though a man was very seriously beaten and the car park was vandalized with several cars set alight.

The men in blue took a closed look at the place and it was cleaned up considerably. Not for the family man still I'd venture. A cheap house, like a free lunch what?

Dannyboy83

I live near there and would have considered it safe as anywhere for years.

Unfortunately, my brother and several of his friends, all men over 30, were assaulted there not so long ago on their way home from the pub.
Unexpected & unprovoked.
My brother got a few hard punches in the face and had to have an operation on his nose.

Mugging gone wrong or something, they're not the type of people to going looking for a fight.