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Removing Tamper boxes for new windows.

  • 09-11-2013 6:22pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭


    Hi all,
    we have builders coming in the next week & the tamper boxes on the windows have to be removed for the new windows that are getting fitted. Any ideas what steps I should take to deactivate them without the alarm sounding. The alarm is a "Secure Watch HKC". Any help would be greatly appreciated.
    Many thanks,
    Fyfyta.


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Unless you have the engineer code (Default 4567) it will activate. You can disarm it with your user code. It will only activate once for each zone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭FyFyTa


    I have the engineer code. Do I put that in & then remove the tamper boxes?


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Yes that's all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭FyFyTa


    Thanks Koolkid all sorted now!!!!:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Your welcome..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭FyFyTa


    Hi KoolKid, that worked a treat, thanks a million. New windows in, only problem is the display now shows that the different zones are "open" & it wont let me arm it.
    Hopefully its a simple fix??
    Again any help very much appreciated!!
    Thanks.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    did you replace all the magnets & are they aligned correctly?
    Can you post a pic of the windows on the zone that's showing open.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭FyFyTa


    The first photo is of the new door with the old sensor on it. I think I will have to get a different type of sensor that fits a bit better.
    The next is just the standard tamper box on a window.
    Maybe I have to clear the log??
    I should be able to get a new sensor in a good electrical suppliers.
    Thanks.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    On the first one is the reed inside the sensor on the side closest to the magnet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,401 ✭✭✭DublinDilbert


    You should get away with the sensors you have, you might just need a plastic spacer under the magnet.

    Some people go into the wholesalers and buy the cheap door contacts, about €1.50 a pair. The put the magnet ontop of the reed contact and screw both to the door. The reed switch is on the bottom and it acts like a spacer...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭FyFyTa


    Thanks KoolKid & DublinDilbert, I'll check them out tomorrow.
    Thanks again!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭FyFyTa


    Hi KoolKid,
    Photo 1, from the top the wires are blank, red, blue/green, yellow, black, blank.
    Photo 2, the wires are blank, black, blue/green, yellow, red, blank.
    I checked the springs and made sure the covers were on nice and tight.
    But alarm goes off & tamper / front windows.
    Thanks for having a look at the photos!!!


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Not really matching up with your post..
    Are the centre 2 in both pics blue & yellow.
    On both of those pics only terminal 2,3,4 & 5 are wired is that correct?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭FyFyTa


    Yes, both "centres" are blue & yellow.
    And only terminals 2,3,4 & 5 are wired.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    So these are just standard inertias? No contacts?
    Remove the blue & yellow from each one & twist them together. You can leave the lids off for now & try set the alarm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭FyFyTa


    when I twist them together do I have to screw them into the connectors??


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    No, not for now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭FyFyTa


    alarm goes off & tamper message displayed.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Even when blue & yellow are joined together on each of those?
    Is there any other devices on that zone 5?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭FyFyTa


    No


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    And is there any junctions or joins on the 2 cables feeding those 2 devices?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭FyFyTa


    No, there isn't.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    OK the next step is to disconnect those tampers at the panel?
    Can you open the main control panel & post a pic.?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,467 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    are the arrows on the barrels pointing upwards maybe when you disconnected off the old windows and reconnected onto the new the barrels got switched around


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭FyFyTa


    Alarm Panel


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Cant see where the zone 5 tamper cables are going.
    Anyway remove the blue & yellow connected to zone 5 tamper & close off with a short length of cable or a staple.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭FyFyTa


    Before I put the cover back on the panel should I twist the blue & yellow wires & tape them up??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭FyFyTa


    Ah sure I just put the cover back on & low and behold I got ............. wait for it................. "READY TO ARM"

    KoolKid..... you are some man for one man!!!!
    THANK :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D YOU


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Your welcome...:D
    But you should tape up those blues & yellows to prevent any shorting.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭FyFyTa


    Will do, Cheers.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Another happy customer...
    Thank You.;)


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