Weanlings in shed

hugo29

Lads and lassies how many 250 - 300 kg weanlings would fit comfortably in a bay of slatted shed for a few months

Was going to chance 8

vinne

What size is the bay?

1chippy

you should fit 9 in and still have them all feeding on a 16' bay

reilig

1chippy wrote: »

you should fit 9 in and still have them all feeding on a 16' bay

Agree. And having 9 in it will keep them all clean.

hugo29

vinne wrote: »

What size is the bay?

14ft slats

Farmer Pudsey

If you can feed meal/ration/nuts at the back you can fit 14 weanlings in the 350kgs range in the pen you could get a couple more depending on how much concrete back and front of the pen.

just do it

hugo29 wrote: »

Lads and lassies how many 250 - 300 kg weanlings would fit comfortably in a bay of slatted shed for a few months

Was going to chance 8

I'd 10 last year with no issue. 14ft6 slat with 18" toe space at front. Would have comfortably taken another 2, particularly in the weight range yours are. Similar pens are frequently stocked with 8-9 cows.

A small trough at the back of the pen can be used if short on feed space.

hugo29

just do it wrote: »

I'd 10 last year with no issue. 14ft6 slat with 18" toe space at front. Would have comfortably taken another 2, particularly in the weight range yours are. Similar pens are frequently stocked with 8-9 cows.

A small trough at the back of the pen can be used if short on feed space.

Have feed space to front and back, don't want to be dragging silage in back if can at all,

Sam Kade

It used to be 15 sq feet for every weanling and 22 sq feet for every adult animal.
9" feed space for weanlings 1 foot feedspace for adult
1.5' feed space for meal and 2' for adult

Farmer Pudsey

hugo29 wrote: »

Have feed space to front and back, don't want to be dragging silage in back if can at all,

If you have enough silage to feed ad-lib you will have no issue with feed space. feed space is only an issue with ration. You do not want weanling trying to climb over each other trying to get to ration. Often have twenty weanlings in a pen (16 foot slats) put bale of silage at front pike out sides. 20 will eat half a bale a day along with 2kgs of nuts.

reilig

Usually 9 feed spaces in each barrier. If you put more than 9 weinlings in then 1 doesn't get equal access to silage. You'll be able to pick him out at the end of the housing period! Weinlings spend a lot more time eating and less time lying down than cows.

mf240

reilig wrote: »

Usually 9 feed spaces in each barrier. If you put more than 9 weinlings in then 1 doesn't get equal access to silage. You'll be able to pick him out at the end of the housing period! Weinlings spend a lot more time eating and less time lying down than cows.

If you are giving them ad lib silage then they will all get enough.

It's hard to beat a straw shed for weanlings though. Especially the small runner type fellas.

I love looking at them lying off in a fresh bed of straw.

reilig

mf240 wrote: »

If you are giving them ad lib silage then they will all get enough.

It's hard to beat a straw shed for weanlings though. Especially the small runner type fellas.

I love looking at them lying off in a fresh bed of straw.

My own experience is that they won't. Then if you have a weinling with any slight weakness, he will be bullied and he will the one to do the worst when you look at DWG.

Farmer Pudsey

reilig wrote: »

My own experience is that they won't. Then if you have a weinling with any slight weakness, he will be bullied and he will the one to do the worst when you look at DWG.

Have never really found it an issue unless calf is way behind the rest. as long as silage is ad-lib and he can get head room for ration he will do ok. Could not afford to under use space in a shed. Yes the strongest will do a little better and the weakest will struggle a bit but performance will be Ok. It the same with a pen of finishing cattle or a pen of year and half's or cows.

bbam

Sam Kade wrote: »

It used to be 15 sq feet for every weanling and 22 sq feet for every adult animal.
9" feed space for weanlings 1 foot feedspace for adult
1.5' feed space for meal and 2' for adult

Sounds tight.
We have a pen of weanling bulls 200-220kg and they have 18sq ft each and I was wondering if it's enough.

Sam Kade

bbam wrote: »

Sounds tight.
We have a pen of weanling bulls 200-220kg and they have 18sq ft each and I was wondering if it's enough.

Yeah I suppose those measurements are more for dairy weanlings, suckled weanlings would be more blocky.

Sharpshooter82

mf240 wrote: »

If you are giving them ad lib silage then they will all get enough.

It's hard to beat a straw shed for weanlings though. Especially the small runner type fellas.

I love looking at them lying off in a fresh bed of straw.

It don't stay too fresh for long tho 240

larrymiller

True some pain in the arse trying to keep the bed someway clean

Muckit

It also has to be remembered that there will be more LW in the pen towards the end of the winter than at the start (will that's the idea ). This will be equivalent to another animal (at least). This needs to be allowed for.

massey265

larrymiller wrote: »

True some pain in the arse trying to keep the bed someway clean

In a straw beded pen what area do you need for a 250kg weanIing?

Sharpshooter82

massey265 wrote: »

In a straw beded pen what area do you need for a 250kg weanIing?

well i have 6 in a pen 15ft x 20ft but im sure you could fit more maybe 8-10

massey265

Sharpshooter82 wrote: »

well i have 6 in a pen 15ft x 20ft but im sure you could fit more maybe 8-10

How many bales off straw you use in a month?

Sharpshooter82

i think 1 to 1 1/2 round bales

just do it

This week's journal has a good article detailing the ideal space requirements for winter housing for both slats and straw bedded pens. Not sure if they're department spec. A lot of lads would say you need to put in more to keep the slats clean.

massey265

Sounds good ill have jo get it....

micky mouse

mf240 wrote: »

If you are giving them ad lib silage then they will all get enough.

It's hard to beat a straw shed for weanlings though. Especially the small runner type fellas.

I love looking at them lying off in a fresh bed of straw.

Talking of those runner types, i know the outlay is small but do they ever come in ,do they stay stunted all along ,do you find that you have to give them a lot more meal to get them to grow over the winter, would a stronger say 50 kg more , be a better buy

simx

micky mouse wrote: »

Talking of those runner types, i know the outlay is small but do they ever come in ,do they stay stunted all along ,do you find that you have to give them a lot more meal to get them to grow over the winter, would a stronger say 50 kg more , be a better buy

had 4 of these type lads last year, 2 came on great, 1 average enough and the other will always be a runt

just do it

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