Yasser Arafat poisoned with polonium, tests show

Red_Dwarf

Could this Kick off a New Middle East war with Israel?

Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat was poisoned to death in 2004 with radioactive polonium, his widow Suha said today after receiving the results of Swiss forensic tests on her husband’s corpse.
“We are revealing a real crime, a political assassination,” she told reporters in Paris.
A team of experts, including some from Lausanne University Hospital’s Institute of Radiation Physics, opened Arafat’s grave in the West Bank city of Ramallah last November, and took samples from his body to seek evidence of alleged poisoning.
“This has confirmed all our doubts,” said Suha Arafat, who met members of the Swiss forensic team in Geneva yesterday.
“It is scientifically proved that he didn’t die a natural death and we have scientific proof that this man was killed.”
She did not accuse any country or person, and acknowledged that the historic leader of the Palestine Liberation Organization had many enemies.
Arafat signed the 1993 Oslo interim peace accords with Israel and led a subsequent uprising after the failure of talks in 2000 on a comprehensive agreement.
Allegations of foul play surfaced immediately. Arafat had foes among his own people, but many Palestinians pointed the finger at Israel, which had besieged him in his Ramallah headquarters for the final two and a half years of his life.
The Israeli government has denied any role in his death, noting that he was 75 years old and had an unhealthy lifestyle.
An investigation by the Qatar-based Al Jazeera television news channel first reported last year that traces of polonium-210 were found on personal effects of Arafat given to his widow by the French military hospital where he died.
That led French prosecutors to open an investigation for suspected murder in August 2012 at the request of Suha Arafat. Forensic experts from Switzerland, Russia and France all took samples from his corpse for testing after the Palestinian Authority agreed to open his mausoleum.
The head of the Russian forensics institute, Vladimir Uiba, was quoted by the Interfax news agency last month as saying no trace of polonium had been found on the body specimens examined in Moscow, but his Federal Medico-Biological Agency later denied he had made any official comment on its findings.
The French pathologists have not reported their conclusions publicly, nor have their findings been shared with Suha Arafat’s legal team. A spokeswoman for the French prosecutor’s office said the investigating magistrats had received no expert reports so far.
One of her lawyers said the Swiss institute’s report, commissioned by Al Jazeera, would be translated from English into French and handed over to the three magistrates in the Paris suburb of Nanterre who are investigating the case.
Professor David Barclay, a British forensic scientist retained by Al Jazeera to interpret the results of the Swiss tests, said the findings from Arafat’s body confirmed the earlier results from traces of bodily fluids on his underwear, toothbrush and clothing.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/middle-east/yasser-arafat-poisoned-with-polonium-tests-show-1.1585941

Conas

No doubt this assassination was carried out by the Mossad, on behalf of the Israeli goverment. The same way Yitzhak Rabin, was assassinated by the Mossad, on behalf of the Israeli Goverment.

Then you have a list of others like JFK, who was assassinated by the CIA, on behalf of people in the Military Industrial Complex, CIA and Federal Reserve.

Others that were murdered include Martin Luther King, Bobby Kennedy, Malcolm X, and many others. They all sought peace, and were murdered for it.

Yasser Arafat's assassination should come of no suprise whatsoever. Unless you are a sheep who hasn't woke up yet, and there are a lot of those.

paulbok

Don't forget Liam Lawlor, taken out by the FCA

WilyCoyote

Or Alice Glenn taken out by the ICA

kneemos

paulbok wrote: »

Don't forget Liam Lawlor, taken out by the FCA

You're a sleepy sheep.

Mark Twain

Oh no, a terrorist killed by the people he spent decades blowing up in busses and cafes. My heart bleeds for him

Rick Rod

Didnt his mother Ma Arafat take over the "peas" process when he passed away?

wexie

and that Wally guy, did they ever find his body?

Hande hoche!

It should put to sleep those Aids rumours.

wretcheddomain

You Sir Are Fat - Apparently that's what his name means in English.

henryporter

Mark Twain wrote: »

Oh no, a terrorist killed by the people he spent decades blowing up in busses and cafes. My heart bleeds for him

That's a good story Mr. Twain

Seaneh

I guess they decided to finish off what they tried to do in 1970 and 1976.

Nothing surprises me when it comes to the actions of the Israeli Authorities. Absolute scumbags.
An institutionally racist country run by psychopaths who are determined to dehumanise and subjugate the Palestinian peoples for their own gain.

The people who did this are the same scumbags that assassinated Yitzak Rabin and forced people like Shlomo Ben-Ami out of the political scene because they were willing to find peace with the Palestinians, which the ZioNazi's will never accept.

Son Of A Vidic

Red_Dwarf wrote: »

Could this Kick off a New Middle East war with Israel?

Not at all and thankfully so. But this rogue state has and will always do as they please, when and where they want. They operate outside the confines of basic human rights and international law. And they will continue do so, as long as they have the tacit approval and protection of the US. Or unless the Israeli people themselves, finally eradicate the stain of Zionism and remove the war hawks that have controlled the reigns of power for too long.

NuckingFacker

Conas wrote: »

No doubt this assassination was carried out by the Mossad, on behalf of the Israeli goverment. The same way Yitzhak Rabin, was assassinated by the Mossad, on behalf of the Israeli Goverment.

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I thought he got banned for trolling. Not so, it seems -Another mystery..

Gatling

Red_Dwarf wrote: »

Could this Kick off a New Middle East war with Israel?[/url]

A war with who exactly Egypt is in no state , syria well that's going through its own hell at the moment,
Jordan won't get involved and Iran is all mouth no testicles ,

Now radioactive polonium poisoning's are actually a Russian specialty ,
If isreal wanted him dead that bad they would have done it in a very public way

Seaneh

Gatling wrote: »

A war with who exactly Egypt is in no state , syria well that's going through its own hell at the moment,
Jordan won't get involved and Iran is all mouth no testicles ,

Now radioactive polonium poisoning's are actually a Russian specialty ,
If isreal wanted him dead that bad they would have done it in a very public way

What a load of horsesh*te.

Israel had been trying to kill him since the late 60's and were nearly successful twice in 1970 and 1976.

As for starting a war, no, it won't start a war.

But it could very well start a 3rd Intifada.

Gatling

Seaneh wrote: »

What a load of horsesh*te.

Israel had been trying to kill him since the late 60's and were nearly successful twice in 1970 and 1976.

As for starting a war, no, it won't start a war.

But it could very well start a 3rd Intifada.

I'm not being bad they would have either launched a hellfire missile from an Apache helicopter or flattened him with a merkava tank in front of TV camera's not hidden behind a sneeky poisoning

NuckingFacker

Gatling wrote: »

I'm not being bad they would have either launched a hellfire missile from an Apache helicopter or flattened him with a merkava tank in front of TV camera's not hidden behind a sneeky poisoning

He was sitting in a compound for years eating dates and drinking Dutch Gold. They could have zapped him any time they fancied. I think they chose sneaky..sneaky can be good..

biko

Then again, who would stand to gain from his death most?
Israel, or Abbas?

rizzodun

Seaneh wrote: »

What a load of horsesh*te.

Israel had been trying to kill him since the late 60's and were nearly successful twice in 1970 and 1976.

As for starting a war, no, it won't start a war.

But it could very well start a 3rd Intifada.

The Israelis would love that, another excuse to ignore peace talks and continue with their occupation and land grabbing.

Grayson

Gatling wrote: »

Now radioactive polonium poisoning's are actually a Russian specialty ,
If isreal wanted him dead that bad they would have done it in a very public way

If Israel wanted they could have done it so it looked like the Russians. Or maybe someone else thought that we'd think that if we found out.

But maybe they (Israel) already thought that we'd think it was someone trying to make israel look like they did it. Which means it was israel all along.

But maybe that's someone trying to make us think it was israel.

Really, it could have been anyone right up to his missus. All we have is a very weird murder weapon which actually makes it more confusing.

Seaneh

Gatling wrote: »

I'm not being bad they would have either launched a hellfire missile from an Apache helicopter or flattened him with a merkava tank in front of TV camera's not hidden behind a sneeky poisoning

No, they wouldn't, because despite being psychopaths, they aren't fu*king idiots.
If they did something like that, even the US wouldn't be able to support them and Hezbollah and Hamas would have gone ape****.

Despite what you seem to believe, Israel are rightly cautious about their military actions in the west bank, they know that pissing off Hezbollah and Hamas is a bad idea, they know that Hezbollah especially has the ability to cause a lot of damage to just about every major population centre in Israel.

They (Hezbollah) are a hornets nest that Israel smart enough not to kick.

Seaneh

rizzodun wrote: »

The Israelis would love that, another excuse to ignore peace talks and continue with their occupation and land grabbing.

Sure, that's what they are doing anyway.

Gatling

Grayson wrote: »

Really, it could have been anyone right up to his missus. All we have is a very weird murder weapon which actually makes it more confusing.

Exactly

Then again out side of isreal and Iraq who's the biggest supplier of weapons in the region

Seaneh

Gatling wrote: »

Exactly

Then again out side of isreal and Iraq who's the biggest supplier of weapons in the region

The US, by orders of magnitude.

bumper234

Seaneh wrote: »

What a load of horsesh*te.

Israel had been trying to kill him since the late 60's and were nearly successful twice in 1970 and 1976.

As for starting a war, no, it won't start a war.

But it could very well start a 3rd Intifada.

Erm....they had him under house arrest in his compound for almost 3 years so it's not like they couldn't find the guy.

Seaneh

bumper234 wrote: »

Erm....they had him under house arrest in his compound for almost 3 years so it's not like they couldn't find the guy.

They couldn't exactly touch him either.


The world doesn't work in the simplistic level you lot seem to believe it does.

They couldn't assassinate him with a targeted killing, their handlers wouldn't let them, they had to put on a face of wanting to move forward with the peace process, they always have to pretend they want peace, despite their actions proving otherwise.

rizzodun

Seaneh wrote: »

Sure, that's what they are doing anyway.

Agreed, and any time the get coaxed (read: forced) back to the table they find another reason to cause it to break down and blame the Palestinians, the sooner the US realise Israel has no desire or intention to negotiate mutual peace with Palestine and stop supporting them the better.

Karl Stein

It's estimated that a million Israelis have emigrated from Israel.

The often-cited reasons for Israeli emigration center on seeking better living and financial conditions, employment and professional opportunities, and higher education, as well as pessimism regarding prospects for peace. Consistent with these motives, one of the most frequently given explanations for leaving Israel is: "The question is not why we left, but why it took us so long to do so." And recent opinion polls find that almost half of Israeli youth would prefer to live somewhere else if they had the chance. Again, the most often-cited reason to emigrate is because the situation in Israel is viewed as "not good."

mideast.foreignpolicy.com

Karl Stein

Seaneh wrote: »

The world doesn't work in the simplistic level you lot seem to believe it does.

Don't you get is Seaneh? State violence is always justified and non-state violence never is.

Come over to the fairy tale world of good and evil, 'Cowboys and Injuns' and savages and civilisers. Everything is so simple here.

*sucks thumb*

Seaneh

Carlos Roca wrote: »

It's estimated that a million Israelis have emigrated from Israel.

Most of the people my age (29) or younger I know from Tel Aviv and Haifa live in Europe or the US now, and they range from Ashkenazi to Arab Muslims and Christian. A lot of graduates are leaving because they are totally disillusioned with the political reality in Israel and are fed up of being ruled by morons like Bibi.

The Diabolical Monocle

Conas wrote: »

No doubt this assassination was carried out by the Mossad, on behalf of the Israeli goverment. The same way Yitzhak Rabin, was assassinated by the Mossad, on behalf of the Israeli Goverment.

Then you have a list of others like JFK, who was assassinated by the CIA, on behalf of people in the Military Industrial Complex, CIA and Federal Reserve.

Others that were murdered include Martin Luther King, Bobby Kennedy, Malcolm X, and many others. They all sought peace, and were murdered for it.

Yasser Arafat's assassination should come of no suprise whatsoever. Unless you are a sheep who hasn't woke up yet, and there are a lot of those.

Oh Jesus, its always the sheep thing. Just because everyone doesn't buy stuff thats presented to them by people who'll jump on any conspiracy bandwagon doesn't make them sheep.
They may just be undecided, they may have an opposite opinion. Conspiracy theorists aren't some kind of all seeing higher intelligence oracle, perceiving where others can't.
People who don't believe the likes of 9/11 being a conspiracy aren't all the same, some would have just gone with what fox says, others would have looked indepth and decided there is no conspiracy - that doesn't make them sheep when they wave off someone banging on about Kennedy, roswell and area 51.

Alex Jones will come up with random sht and present it to a bunch of naive excited ostracized teen nerd-boys, they'll decided its a huge conspiracy and then go around telling everyone who doesn't believe in Jones's partly factual sht that they're a sheep.

MadsL

biko wrote: »

Then again, who would stand to gain from his death most?

I mean it is not like he had any enemies or anythin....now wait a minute...

Grayson

Seaneh wrote: »

Most of the people my age (29) or younger I know from Tel Aviv and Haifa live in Europe or the US now, and they range from Ashkenazi to Arab Muslims and Christian. A lot of graduates are leaving because they are totally disillusioned with the political reality in Israel and are fed up of being ruled by morons like Bibi.

That's the scary thing. The moderates are leaving.

I'm pretty certain the moderate Palestinians would have left if they were allowed.

Seaneh

Grayson wrote: »

That's the scary thing. The moderates are leaving.

Yup, and the government are still shipping in religious nutjobs to replace them from Eastern Europe and the US.

Conas

The Diabolical Monocle wrote: »

Oh Jesus, its always the sheep thing. Just because everyone doesn't buy stuff thats presented to them by people who'll jump on any conspiracy bandwagon doesn't make them sheep.
They may just be undecided, they may have an opposite opinion. Conspiracy theorists aren't some kind of all seeing higher intelligence oracle, perceiving where others can't.
People who don't believe the likes of 9/11 being a conspiracy aren't all the same, some would have just gone with what fox says, others would have looked indepth and decided there is no conspiracy - that doesn't make them sheep when they wave off someone banging on about Kennedy, roswell and area 51.

Alex Jones will come up with random sht and present it to a bunch of naive excited ostracized teen nerd-boys, they'll decided its a huge conspiracy and then go around telling everyone who doesn't believe in Jones's partly factual sht that they're a sheep.

Well I'll put it to you this way, if you honestly believe that the US goverment wouldn't kill there own people to carry out an agenda then you are shockingly naive, given the evidence that's already out there. Just read up on Operation Northwoods. There is a big difference in what is a conspiracy and what is actual fact, and been declassified.

The Yasser Arafat poisoning should be of no shock to anyone. I just hope we'll finally get told who murdered JFK after 50 years.

NuckingFacker

Seaneh wrote: »

The US, by orders of magnitude.

Yeah? I would have said the UK. They sell a lot of stuff apart from Pork Pies and Malt whisky. Guns, bombs and Military hardware being a few biggies.

Gatling

NuckingFacker wrote: »

Yeah? I would have said the UK. They sell a lot of stuff apart from Pork Pies and Malt whisky. Guns, bombs and Military hardware being a few biggies.

UK sells to Saudi along with the US ,

Russia is well up there might explain how nearly every middle East country uses russian weapons , vehicles ,aircraft and defence systems

Seaneh

NuckingFacker wrote: »

Yeah? I would have said the UK. They sell a lot of stuff apart from Pork Pies and Malt whisky. Guns, bombs and Military hardware being a few biggies.

The US are the main arms suppliers to Israel, Egypt and Jordan as well as most of the Arab Peninsula dictatorships.

Gatling

Seaneh wrote: »

The US are the main arms suppliers to Israel, Egypt and Jordan as well as most of the Arab Peninsula dictatorships.

Jordan's military are supplied by at least 8 different nations ,

Seaneh

Gatling wrote: »

Jordan's military are supplied by at least 8 different nations ,

But the biggest supplier is the US.

Almost all of Egypt's hardware and arms come from the US, same for Israel.

Gatling

Seaneh wrote: »

But the biggest supplier is the US.

Almost all of Egypt's hardware and arms come from the US, same for Israel.

correct in some cases , some big toys come from America ,a lot is produced under licence by the Egyptian military themselves which in turn they export undercutting in some cases the original producer

Vehicle's like humvees and certain aircraft are all american produced some are Russian too

Herb Powell

kneemos wrote: »

You're a sleepy sheep.

WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!!!!!!!!1111!!!!one!

Santa Cruz

Grayson wrote: »

If Israel wanted they could have done it so it looked like the Russians. Or maybe someone else thought that we'd think that if we found out.

But maybe they (Israel) already thought that we'd think it was someone trying to make israel look like they did it. Which means it was israel all along.

But maybe that's someone trying to make us think it was israel.

Really, it could have been anyone right up to his missus. All we have is a very weird murder weapon which actually makes it more confusing.

Maybe the Russians did it to look like the Russians did it so that Israel would be suspected.

Santa Cruz

Gatling wrote: »

Jordan's military are supplied by at least 8 different nations ,

"Jordans Military"

I know they are big but is that what they are calling them now.

Gatling

Santa Cruz wrote: »

"Jordans Military".

What else would you call a combined armed force of a foreign country

MRnotlob606

aruba jamaica ooh i wanna take ya..

Femme_Fatale

Conas wrote: »

No doubt this assassination was carried out by the Mossad, on behalf of the Israeli goverment. The same way Yitzhak Rabin, was assassinated by the Mossad, on behalf of the Israeli Goverment.

Then you have a list of others like JFK, who was assassinated by the CIA, on behalf of people in the Military Industrial Complex, CIA and Federal Reserve.

Others that were murdered include Martin Luther King, Bobby Kennedy, Malcolm X, and many others. They all sought peace, and were murdered for it.

Yasser Arafat's assassination should come of no suprise whatsoever. Unless you are a sheep who hasn't woke up yet, and there are a lot of those.

A person who looks for solid evidence rather than making up their mind based on a hunch isn't a sheep; they're just someone who goes with more than just feelings to decide that something is a fact.
You may be right but none of us know for definite.

The Diabolical Monocle

Conas wrote: »

Well I'll put it to you this way, if you honestly believe that the US goverment wouldn't kill there own people to carry out an agenda then you are shockingly naive, given the evidence that's already out there. Just read up on Operation Northwoods. There is a big difference in what is a conspiracy and what is actual fact, and been declassified.

The Yasser Arafat poisoning should be of no shock to anyone. I just hope we'll finally get told who murdered JFK after 50 years.

Okay then, Ill be shockingly naive and devoid of curiosity, while not being a conspiracy nut who puts 1 and 1 together and get 11.

And you can continue on in conspiracy forums with a dismissive attitude to anything that doesn't excite you or confirm your bias, or challenges your perception of yourself as special and wise among the bland naive population who never question. Remember - keep it one sided.

wexie

Conas wrote: »

Yasser Arafat's assassination should come of no suprise whatsoever. Unless you are a sheep who hasn't woke up yet, and there are a lot of those.

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

A person who looks for solid evidence rather than making up their mind based on a hunch isn't a sheep; they're just someone who goes with more than just feelings to decide that something is a fact. You may be right but none of us know for definite.

The Diabolical Monocle wrote: »

Okay then, Ill be shockingly naive and devoid of curiosity, while not being a conspiracy nut who puts 1 and 1 together and get 11.

And you can continue on in conspiracy forums with a dismissive attitude to anything that doesn't excite you or confirm your bias, or challenges your perception of yourself as special and wise among the bland naive population who never question. Remember - keep it one sided.

I'm not a CT ......lets be nice and say afficionado....:) however I do have to agree with Conas on the bolded bit, the odds on aul' uncle Yasser growing old and dying peacefully in his sleep weren't exactly great now where they?

whupdedo

Yassar arafat is dead ?