Submit Jobseekers application without proof documents

Earthyte

Hi I'm just wondering from a newcomer if I should still submit my completed jobseekers application form in person to my local social security office without the complete proof documents required?

I have requested bank statements and P45 to show details of income / savings and proof of address but waiting to receive them in the post. One bank advised that it could take up to 6 working days.

Would it be preferable to hold out a few days until my documents arrive and submit everything all together?

danjo-xx

Apply immediately, and worry about the documents later, you should always apply on the first day of unemployment or as soon as possible after or you will loose out on payment.

Just bring all the documents that you have at the moment.

Earthyte

ok, was worried it would mess up the whole thing as the docs I'm waiting for are pretty crucial for my assessment. It's been a nightmare trying to get hold of recent proof of address etc as have been working out of the country for quite a while. Seems daft that I can only get statements etc posted from the bank branch that I first registered with and can't just walk in and have them printed there and then. A week is such a long time to wait for such a simple thing! Thanks !

eastbono

If you have been out of the country for quite a while you will also have to satisfy habitual residency criteria. When you make you jobseekers claim I would advise that you would apply for supplementary welfare allowance from your community welfare officer while you are waiting for your jobseekers claim to be processed.

Earthyte

Thanks for the input! I have no issue with satisfying the habitual residence condition as I am Irish by nationality and have lived in the common travel area all my life. Spent a good deal studying and working in the UK so this won't put any restrictions on me. So even though I've lived out of the country for about 8 years, I have returned for a period of up to 1 year in between this etc but this hasn't gone out of the common area.

Balagan

You have, of course, a full right to reside here, but, if you are applying for Jobseekers Allowance, the means-tested social assistance payment, you will first have to prove that Ireland is your 'main centre of interest' now and that you have severed ties abroad. The documentation necessary and the processing can really take time - hence the recommendation at Post #4.

Returning migrants or Resuming previous residence

A person who had previously been habitually resident in the State and who moved to live and work in another country and then resumes his/her long-term residence in the State may be regarded as being habitually resident immediately on his/her return to the State.

In determining the main centre of interest in such cases the DO should take account of:

purpose of return e.g. expiry of foreign residence permit
the applicant's stated intentions
verified arrangements which have been made in regard to returning on a long-term basis e.g. transfer of financial accounts and any other assets, termination of residence based entitlements in the other country, or assistance from Safe Home ( see below) or a similar programme to enable Irish emigrants to return permanently
length and continuity of the previous residence in the State
the record of employment or self employment in another State and
whether s/he has maintained links with the previous residence and can be regarded as resuming his/her previous residence rather than starting a new period of residence.
Replies to the following questions may assist in determining whether an applicant has retained or resumed his or her main centre of interest in Ireland after a period spent abroad:

how long did the applicant live in Ireland before leaving?
why did the applicant come to Ireland originally?
when and why did the applicant leave Ireland?
how long did the applicant remain or intend to remain abroad?
did spouse/civil partner and children, if any, also leave Ireland?
was accommodation retained in Ireland?
if the applicant owned property in Ireland, was it let, and was the lease timed to coincide with the applicant's return to Ireland?
what links did the applicant keep with Ireland?
can the applicant verify cessation of employment, lease or rental agreement etc. abroad?
when and why did the applicant return to Ireland?
have there been other brief absences? If yes, obtain details.
The following examples are acceptable as proof of permanent return to Ireland: (Allow 28 days for documentation to be submitted)

Documented evidence of transportation of personal possessions
Proof of cessation of employment
Proof of termination of lease on rented property or proof of sale of home
Evidence of closure of financial accounts and transfer of funds
Evidence of completion of studies abroad (where applicable)
Copy of passport and expiration of visa at the time they returned
http://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/Habitual-Residence-Condition--Guidelines-for-Deciding-Offic.aspx