Foreign stores Selling Irish Products Cheaper Than Irish Stores

Sounds

Walked into a german store, checked out some Irish products;
Food and alcohol are cheaper than they are in Irish stores.
Quite annoying in a way when you think about it.
It kind of makes a statement that goods could be cheaper,
But it takes a foreign company to prove it, what the hell.
You can't blame a business for being cheaper than another.

BNMC

Sounds wrote: »

Walked into a german store

Are you blonde?

Fr_Dougal

Bastards.

Merrion

According to this, the VAT rate is similar so my initial thought on that is wrong.

Cool_CM

Merrion wrote: »

According to this, the VAT rate is similar so my initial thought on that is wrong.

German VAT is generally 19%, but 7% for foodstuffs so it depends. Jameson is definitely cheaper though!

Sh1tbag OToole

Cool_CM wrote: »

German VAT is generally 19%, but 7% for foodstuffs so it depends. Jameson is definitely cheaper though!

A lot of food in Ireland has 0% VAT

I'm pretty sure their kerrygold tastes different though

MadsL

Jameson in Walgreens (US) $22.99
Jameson in O'Briens Dublin €23.99 ($32.43)

Tax in US 7%
Tax in Ireland 23%

Adjusted roughly $21 in US and $25 in Ireland.

Merkin

I'm in the UK and Barry's Tea is wayyyyy cheaper here than home in Dublin.

Rabelais

bluewolf wrote: »

I'm pretty sure their kerrygold tastes different though

It's the biggest selling butter in Germany and I'm fairly sure it's from Ireland, not a repackaging job.

Cool_CM

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

A lot of food in Ireland has 0% VAT

Which basically goes to show that we've been paying through our noses for things for years.

The Backwards Man

I was in a shop once where the bread was a different price than it was in another shop.

darkpagandeath

Shock horror were being overcharged for stuff in Ireland. Just waiting for someone to jump in and say the Dole is the minimum wage so that's why we pay so much for stuff here

hfallada

You can buy a bottle for vodka in Germany for a fiver. So there is **** all tax on alcohol and cigarettes in Germany. But a **** load of income taxes and social security.

But you seriously have to question why Irish steak is cheaper in a supermarket in Italy than in Ireland.

Matt_Trakker

I live in West Poland, a bottle of Jameson is 59zl, that's €14.12. Can get Bushmills for a similar price.
Can't get much Irish stuff here tbh, Guinness in a pub is around 12zl, that's €3, but a normal Tyskie/Zywiec would be around 6/7zl, €2.50.
Can of Guinness don't cost much either, but Guinness is weak, only 4.3% alcohol, Polish beer is much stronger, usually 6-7% and above.

Can get some Irish cheese too, it's about 12zl, €3, normal Polish cheese would be about 3 or 4 zloty, but it's not good.

Would be nice if ya could get some Lyons tea here though, Polish tea is piss-weak. Usually have to double bag.

Rabelais

Rabelais wrote: »

It's the biggest selling butter in Germany and I'm fairly sure it's from Ireland, not a repackaging job.

Friend moved over there recently and swears it's different, thats all

Rabelais

Cool_CM wrote: »

Which basically goes to show that we've been paying through our noses for things for years.

Businesses will charge what they can for products. Large chains like Tesco will use expensive Business Intelligence software to work this out. Until consumers become actively more price conscious then it will continue. Aldi are really cornering a large chunk of the market with this growing market of people who want cheaper prices and high quality.

clairefontaine

Im in the US. Kerry Gold and Barrys Tea is cheaper and also tastes the same.

Cool_CM

clairefontaine wrote: »

Im in the US. Kerry Gold and Barrys Tea is cheaper and also tastes the same.

In terms of Germany, Kerrygold is an interesting one to look at:
http://www.irishtimes.com/business/sectors/agribusiness-and-food/irish-dairy-board-marks-40-years-of-buttering-up-germany-1.1514874

Rabelais

clairefontaine wrote: »

Im in the US. Kerry Gold and Barrys Tea is cheaper and also tastes the same.

The arrival of Dubliner Cheese was a source of great happiness. Quite expensive, but so worth it in comparison to the muck that passes for much of US cheese.

JohnCleary

A pint bottle of Bulmers in Bangkok cost me €4.50 2 years ago. When I returned home a week later I couldn't get one for less than €4.90

MadsL

Rabelais wrote: »

The arrival of Dubliner Cheese was a source of great happiness. Quite expensive, but so worth it in comparison to the muck that passes for much of US cheese.

US Craft cheese will the next hipster US food revolution. You heard it here first.

US Beer has been fixed, time to deal with cheese.

Blessed are the Cheesemakers.

Sounds

I think my point is that we are taking it up the a$$ for years lol

Saw a good one a few weeks back, made me laugh:
"Irish government advice Irish citizens to lube up and bend over for the coming budget" so true.

I just think it's sad, kinda pi**ed me off at the time, i know we have a lot of decent stores around now that have brought down the
cost of house hold goods which is great because a lot of people don't have much cash, and the well-off wouldn't worry about this.
Call me blond if you like, i'm aware that buying in bulk is cheaper, seriously like.. a few years back if someone said what super market
provide the cheapest prices, you probably would have said tesco, but now if someone asks where can i get a can of guinness at the
cheapest price, a lot of people will be going to the foreign stores!! for bread, butter, drink whatever!

Ciaran_B

Rabelais wrote: »

It's the biggest selling butter in Germany and I'm fairly sure it's from Ireland, not a repackaging job.

It's made in Germany. RTE did a bunch of radio stuff from Germany during the summer and one of the interviews was at the German Kerrygold factory.

Sounds

LOL great input "The Backwards Man" well done

Wibbs

We call them shops in Ireland. A store is something... well you store things in. Maybe your "mom" could help you with that?

That said and to be fair I noticed this yonks ago, back in the 90's on a very addled and memory patchy Fear and Loathing stylee week in Tenerife. One morning(well... I say morning...) my ancestral blood called to me for a feed of spuds and in the local shop what did I espy but Irish spuds from county Meath at half the price of the spuds in the local Tesco back in Dublin. Yea I did scratch my head on that one. Given the unnatural load of unnatural biochemicals in my head at the time it got deep. Still I couldn't work it out at all. Given the Canaries are islands that require extra transportation costs to get there, yet the same spuds were a van drive away from me back home?

munchkin_utd

bluewolf wrote: »

Friend moved over there recently and swears it's different, thats all

Kerrygold sold in Germany is normally unsalted, so in that aspect is very different.

funny though, because in the past 18months theres been an explosion of the availibity of salted butter which was once only available in specialist and more upmarket supermarkets.

anyhow, most stuff in german supermarkets is sometimes a little cheaper BUT if you live in Ireland and are on the average industrial wage you'll have about 500euro a month extra in the pocket because of the low taxes and whatnot over someone on the same wages in germany. For a couple thats a grand a month, 12 grand a year more in the pocket if living in Ireland.

The differences are even more stark for lower earners as they are exempt in Ireland below 16grand or so on tax whereas in Germany youre paying income tax(+pension+medical+solidarity+church+prsi) on everything above 6grand or so. And real council tax, real water charges etc. on your household.

Any german would take a few cent extra on a packet of pasta in return for irish income taxes!!!

Rabelais

MadsL wrote: »

US Craft cheese will the next hipster US food revolution. You heard it here first.

US Beer has been fixed, time to deal with cheese.

Blessed are the Cheesemakers.

Take a long view punt on the hipster potato market as well.

MadsL

Rabelais wrote: »

Take a long view punt on the hipster potato market as well.

Nah, plenty of hipster potatoes available in the US, heirloom don'tcha know...

PizzamanIRL

Irish hire foreigners to work at a cheaper rate.

Foreigners sell Irish goods at a cheaper price than Irish shops.

The country is balanced now.

ArmaniJeanss

MadsL wrote: »

Jameson in Walgreens (US) $22.99
Jameson in O'Briens Dublin €23.99 ($32.43)

Tax in US 7%
Tax in Ireland 23%

Adjusted roughly $21 in US and $25 in Ireland.

Thats just the VAT rate?
Excise Duty is the real big tax for alcohol in Ireland.

Cool Mo D

MadsL wrote: »

Jameson in Walgreens (US) $22.99
Jameson in O'Briens Dublin €23.99 ($32.43)

Tax in US 7%
Tax in Ireland 23%

Adjusted roughly $21 in US and $25 in Ireland.

hfallada wrote: »

You can buy a bottle for vodka in Germany for a fiver. So there is **** all tax on alcohol and cigarettes in Germany. But a **** load of income taxes and social security.

But you seriously have to question why Irish steak is cheaper in a supermarket in Italy than in Ireland.

Matt_Trakker wrote: »

I live in West Poland, a bottle of Jameson is 59zl, that's €14.12. Can get Bushmills for a similar price.
Can't get much Irish stuff here tbh, Guinness in a pub is around 12zl, that's €3, but a normal Tyskie/Zywiec would be around 6/7zl, €2.50.
Can of Guinness don't cost much either, but Guinness is weak, only 4.3% alcohol, Polish beer is much stronger, usually 6-7% and above.

Can get some Irish cheese too, it's about 12zl, €3, normal Polish cheese would be about 3 or 4 zloty, but it's not good.

Would be nice if ya could get some Lyons tea here though, Polish tea is piss-weak. Usually have to double bag.

One of the reasons that booze is more expensive in Ireland is because VAT is not the only tax on alcohol. There is also excise duty, and on a typical 1L, €30 bottle of spirits, about €20 of that is pure tax. Have a look at the duty free booze prices in Dublin airport for more examples.

Cee-Jay-Cee

Not a food stuff but eye drops which are made in Castlebar and are sold here on Prescription for €40+. The exact same drops, made in Castlebar, can be bought over the counter in Tenerife for €5. It's a complete joke and completely unjustifiable.

General General

Only in Ireland would this happ...

Thegalwayman

CJC999 wrote: »

Not a food stuff but eye drops which are made in Castlebar and are sold here on Prescription for €40+. The exact same drops, made in Castlebar, can be bought over the counter in Tenerife for €5. It's a complete joke and completely unjustifiable.

What eyedrops?

clairefontaine

MadsL wrote: »

Jameson in Walgreens (US) $22.99
Jameson in O'Briens Dublin €23.99 ($32.43)

Tax in US 7%
Tax in Ireland 23%

Adjusted roughly $21 in US and $25 in Ireland.

Does that include the sales tax at the till?

You can add an extra 8.9% to that in my state.

MadsL

MadsL wrote: »

Jameson in Walgreens (US) $22.99
Jameson in O'Briens Dublin €23.99 ($32.43)

Tax in US 7%
Tax in Ireland 23%

Adjusted roughly $21 in US and $25 in Ireland.

clairefontaine wrote: »

Does that include the sales tax at the till?

You can add an extra 8.9% to that in my state.

I actually completely fecked up that comparison - I deducted the US sales tax instead of adding it.

So 22.99+7% = $24.59 roughly the same as in Ireland.

clairefontaine

MadsL wrote: »

I actually completely fecked up that comparison - I deducted the US sales tax instead of adding it.

So 22.99+7% = $24.59 roughly the same as in Ireland.

You said it was $32 [E24] in Ireland. Still cheaper.

Sales tax varies state to state btw.

hfallada

Ciaran_B wrote: »

It's made in Germany. RTE did a bunch of radio stuff from Germany during the summer and one of the interviews was at the German Kerrygold factory.

Its not. I was in the tiny town where the Kerrygold factory is. The butter is shipped frozen and cut into smaller blocks and sold. I didnt see a single dairy cow driving through the region for a month,

I dont believe 90% of what you hear on RTE when reporting on foreign countries. They tend to "leave" info out

MadsL

clairefontaine wrote: »

You said it was $32 [E24] in Ireland. Still cheaper.

Sales tax varies state to state btw.

The same before tax ($25)

donegal__road

hfallada wrote: »

Its not. I was in the tiny town where the Kerrygold factory is. The butter is shipped frozen and cut into smaller blocks and sold. I didnt see a single dairy cow driving through the region for a month,

I dont believe 90% of what you hear on RTE when reporting on foreign countries. They tend to "leave" info out

shipped frozen from where hfallada? Brought into Ireland you mean?




p.s. Donegal Catch is not caught in Donegal... surprise surprise



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peewee_44

I shop in Aldi where everything is cheaper

Wibbs

Rabelais wrote: »

Until consumers become actively more price conscious then it will continue.

Very much so and I do think in this particular respect we're quite a ways behind other cultures. Except in Cavan...:)

Fratton Fred

Reminds me of people I knew who lived in Faversham and would do regular day trips to France, always making sure they visited the Eastenders booze warehouse to stock up on Bishop's Finger and Spitfire ale on the way back.

Qualitymark

Maybe part of it is that the councils charge huge rates and the rents on shops can only be adjusted upwards?

SpaceTime

There's very little point in comparing alcohol prices as the majority of the difference will be made up by tax. There are excise taxes added to alcohol and tobacco products way beyond VAT.

The biggest costs in Ireland come from the property bubble : ludicrously high commercial rents and rates. That's usually why the prices are so steep.

Everything comes down to that really.

The Irish economy is like a big funnel that takes money from everything and hands it to property speculators.
Huge mortgages and rents all just add up to higher prices, higher wage requirements, less disposable income and a more unbalanced economy.
We never really got over the days of the wealthy 19th century landlord class as many Irish people aspired to be that all over again.

Billy86

Matt_Trakker wrote: »

I live in West Poland...

Tell me, genuine question........... how's the bread?

:pac::pac::pac:

hfallada

donegal__road wrote: »

shipped frozen from where hfallada? Brought into Ireland you mean?




p.s. Donegal Catch is not caught in Donegal... surprise surprise



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Kerrygold is shipped frozen from Ireland to Germany to be cut up for packaging. Neither is any Irish sounding honey produced in Ireland