Teacher arrested for having sex with a 17 year old student

Festy

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2479595/English-teacher-34-arrested-having-sex-17-year-old-student-able-accurately-tattoos-police.html

Lucky bastard

Uriel.

Disgusting.



Disgusting that it never happened in my school...

I definitely would. I'd like to hear the description of the tattoos.

ron jambo

Festy wrote: »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2479595/English-teacher-34-arrested-having-sex-17-year-old-student-able-accurately-tattoos-police.html

Lucky bastard

NICE :pac:

Uriel.

Hmmm she has some interesting reviews:

I liked fisting her. It was a fun f*cking teacher, to be honest!

This one might have been posted by a cat:

Dat ass on duh bitch be cray. She be grinding up n down allday errday

Made a lot of things hard, but she made up for it in the private lessons

Started out all good very helpful and everything was tight. Then a few months down the line its all loose and sagging like a badly packed kebab. I thought we had a thing at one point but I realised just what she was when we did that bukkake in class. And that's how she got the name "Bukakke" Brianne Altice.

Ms altice was always there to help with any tight jams, she could always come at the right time when you were struggling most and always took the load as it came. Gonna miss that cumdumpster...

and more such delights...:D

jester77

Uriel. wrote: »

Hmmm she has some interesting reviews:



This one might have been posted by a cat:








and more such delights...:D

LOL, she only got 2 stars for easiness :pac:

Festy

Festy wrote: »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2479595/English-teacher-34-arrested-having-sex-17-year-old-student-able-accurately-tattoos-police.html

Lucky bastard

Uriel. wrote: »

Disgusting.



Disgusting that it never happened in my school...

I definitely would. I'd like to hear the description of the tattoos.

This kind of reaction is why male victims of inappropriate sexual contact or sexual abuse find it hard to disclose.

Reverse the genders and no one would be so congratulatory.

beakerjoe

jester77 wrote: »

LOL, she only got 2 stars for easiness :pac:

Wheres this kids "luckiest kid in the world" medal!

niiiicccccceeee!

The One Who Knocks

Candie wrote: »

This kind of reaction is why male victims of inappropriate sexual contact or sexual abuse find it hard to disclose.

Reverse the genders and no one would be so congratulatory.

Agreed, but it's hardly rape either.

anncoates

Reminds me of that fella in that book by Nabokov.

Uriel.

Candie wrote: »

This kind of reaction is why male victims of inappropriate sexual contact or sexual abuse find it hard to disclose.

Reverse the genders and no one would be so congratulatory.

I don't disagree.
If the incident involved rape I would sing a different tune, but we don't know that yet.


Also, I still would.

beakerjoe

Candie wrote: »

This kind of reaction is why male victims of inappropriate sexual contact or sexual abuse find it hard to disclose.

Reverse the genders and no one would be so congratulatory.

These congratulatory responses are made out of fun, its AH for petes sake!

Clandestine

Now watch her get a slap on the wrist. Reverse the genders, what do you think the response would be?

tomdempsey200

she's a hottie in the first pic

next pic she looks like a meth addict..

The One Who Knocks

tomdempsey200 wrote: »

she's a hottie in the first pic

next pic she looks like a meth addict..

That's makeup for you!

aujopimur

The Christian Brothers never looked that sexy when they buggering the pupils.

Festy

tomdempsey200 wrote: »

she's a hottie in the first pic

next pic she looks like a meth addict..

Makeup the deceiver

SEPT 23 1989

tomdempsey200 wrote: »

she's a hottie in the first pic

next pic she looks like a meth addict..

Davis County Jail tends to do that to a lady

Billy86

Jamez735 wrote: »

Agreed, but it's hardly rape either.

If the teen is 17 now, and it began in January '12, he was likely 15 years of age. By it's very definition, that would is rape consent is 18 in Utah.

And how do you know she wasn't threatening, blackmailing to fail him and such if he didn't?

Where were all the 'niiicceeee, niicccceee!' jokes for some of the celebs coming out where the girls were 15, 16, 17 years of age (as opposed to younger kids)?

beakerjoe

Festy wrote: »

Makeup the deceiver

But sure arent most girls like that without make up

Specialun

Its a bit sad as she would have no bother getting it in a bar or club

P.S i would be all over her like cartman on a choc cake

aaakev

Candie wrote: »

This kind of reaction is why male victims of inappropriate sexual contact or sexual abuse find it hard to disclose.

Reverse the genders and no one would be so congratulatory.

This story doesnt read like sexyal abuse, he was 17 ffs and obviously wanted to do it, i know what i would have done at 17 in that situation

The One Who Knocks

Billy86 wrote: »

If the teen is 17 now, and it began in January '12, he was likely 15 years of age. By it's very definition, that would is rape consent is 18 in Utah.

And how do you know she wasn't threatening, blackmailing to fail him and such if he didn't?

Where were all the 'niiicceeee, niicccceee!' jokes for some of the celebs coming out where the girls were 15, 16, 17 years of age (as opposed to younger kids)?

Apologies, didn't realise he was 15 when it started.

I still doubt she was forcing him though in all honesty.

Billy86

Jamez735 wrote: »

Apologies, didn't realise he was 15 when it started.

I still doubt she was forcing him though in all honesty.

A 15 year old is incredibly easy to manipulate for those who spend their careers around them and have power ad authority over them.

No having a go at you here in particular or anything, but it always amazed me how many presuppose innocence to women in cases like this while jumping to a guilty headline with men before even finishing the headline.

The One Who Knocks

Billy86 wrote: »

A 15 year old is incredibly easy to manipulate for those who spend their careers around them and have power ad authority over them.

No having a go at you here in particular or anything, but it always amazed me how many presuppose innocence to women in cases like this while jumping to a guilty headline with men before even finishing the headline.

That's true, and it does happen but in this scenario:

Teenage boy + hormones + attractive teacher = Who wouldn't?

AnonoBoy

Can we ban the South Park 'nice' video from threads like this.

It's so obvious. Come on people!

Use your imaginations!

I mean - first post? FIRST POST?

*sigh*

wretcheddomain

The student clearly misunderstood the teacher when she said he was having an oral as part of the continuous assessment.

pundy

she's not hot...

Oranage2

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Can we ban the South Park 'nice' video from threads like this.

It's so obvious. Come on people!

Use your imaginations!

I mean - first post? FIRST POST?

*sigh*

What about the equally common, insightless thank fishing gender reversal comments?

Can they be banned too?

mikom

anncoates wrote: »

Reminds me of that fella in that book by Nabokov.

James Mason?.............. :cool:

Billy86

Jamez735 wrote: »

That's true, and it does happen but in this scenario:

Teenage boy + hormones + attractive teacher = Who wouldn't?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2413626/Paedophile-P-E-teacher-Glyn-Thompson-Burnley-sex-14-year-old-pupil-school.html

This guy strikes me as probably being a decent looking fella. It all started off consentually and after he and the student had been sending 'dirty' photos to each other on their phones The Good Old Daily Mail says "He began taking her to a room at the school, where he physically abused her. He began to touch her all round and began to kiss her on the mouth.'

Yet with the woman here, The Good Old Daily Mail states: "The 17-year-old boy admitted to investigators on Monday that he had had sex with Altice at least seven times between January of 2012 and October of 2013, according to a Davis County Jail report."

Both the male teacher and this Altice woman are as guilty as each other, at the very least. The girl in the other situation did say that it had been consensual and while she was scared once things like sex began she made a point to never show as much. But by default for whatever reason, he is seen as a far bigger monster in the whole situation having 'physically abused' the girl while in the Altice case here, it was actually the teenage boy who "had sex with her".

That double standard in the use of language is huge in things like this in my opinion, and really does wind me up.

gizmo555

Jamez735 wrote: »

Agreed, but it's hardly rape either.

Actually, it is.

Femme_Fatale

Clandestine wrote: »

Now watch her get a slap on the wrist. Reverse the genders, what do you think the response would be?

Look at all the backslapping, high-fiving, "bad-ass" comments here about how he was lucky and people need to lighten up about it - hardly helps.
Even if he did enjoy it and wasn't below the age of consent, she's a teacher and was abusing her authority and was a ****ing bint for doing so.

Clandestine

Clandestine wrote: »

Now watch her get a slap on the wrist. Reverse the genders, what do you think the response would be?

Is it surprising when most reactions are "oh lucky guy"

Duck's hoop

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Even if he did enjoy it and wasn't below the age of consent, she's a teacher and was abusing her authority and was a ****ing bint for doing so.

I going to make a huge assumption based on no evidence specific to that case whatsoever and say he definitely enjoyed it. At least as much as doing his Shakespeare essays.

I don't see where there is any indication she abused her authority?

The One Who Knocks

gizmo555 wrote: »

Actually, it is.

...

Jamez735 wrote: »

Apologies, didn't realise he was 15 when it started.

Uriel.

bluewolf wrote: »

Is it surprising when most reactions are "oh lucky guy"

Are they really surprising? Honestly?

Look the double standards of this type of situation is acknowledged. It's not fair. and is annoying.

The potential of rape, coercion, manipulation, abuse, abuse of authority is also well acknowledged. Undoubtedly, the teacher in question should face a full (and fair) judgment from the relevant courts. The penalty should be appropriate to the circumstances and shouldn't be any different to the penalty that would be faced by a male teacher in the same circumstances. She should, it could be argued also receive a penalty even if the there was full consent and no coercion etc present, owing to her failure of living by the unique influence she exerts.

But, at the end of the day, I am sure there are plenty (maybe most) males, who if they had a half decent looking teacher at 15, 16 or 17 wouldn't mind some extracurricular activity. I know when I was in my leaving cert cycle there were at least two teachers I would have liked to have visited their homes for some fun, (in exchange for a couple of A or B results.) For some it might even be a fantasy. That's why you have comments like you highlight.

No one, or at least I am not, is disregarding the potential seriousness of the situation, but humour doesn't need to be absent from all situations. In fact, there's probably only rare topics in AH where the threshold for some form of humour is so low to be completely 'off the wall'.

Billy86

Duck's hoop wrote: »

I going to make a huge assumption based on no evidence specific to that case whatsoever and say he definitely enjoyed it. At least as much as doing his Shakespeare essays.

I don't see where there is any indication she abused her authority?

That is a huge assumption, and funny enough a huge assumption that I don't think has once ever been made with an older man and under age girl. Yet it's the same assumption that is jumped to quite frequently with older women and younger boys.

Even if it was 100% consensual with NO coercion on her part, Christ, even if the kid approached her about it and pestered her for sex, the teacher is still guilty of abusing her authority here. It is that simple. There's no grey area, you don't have sex with students. You don't have sex with 15 year olds where the legal age is 18. You don't do both together. Simple as that.

catallus

I got blowjobs from my English teacher when I was in 6th Year, I was 17, she was hot and in her 40's I think. I never told a soul.

Seaneh

Billy86 wrote: »

If the teen is 17 now, and it began in January '12, he was likely 15 years of age. By it's very definition, that would is rape consent is 18 in Utah.

No, it would be statutory rape, there is a world of difference.

Duck's hoop

I realise it's not PC but I still think it's unlikely he didn't enjoy it.

I understand the reaction would be different if the genders were reversed, but I would posit that if it's consensual and repeated, then both parties are enjoying the experience, regardless of the law.

I'm not condoning it.

Seaneh

catallus wrote: »

I got blowjobs from my English teacher when I was in 6th Year, I was 17, she was hot and in her 40's I think. I never told a soul.

Lies.

I Heart Internet

catallus wrote: »

I got blowjobs from my English teacher when I was in 6th Year, I was 17, she was hot and in her 40's I think. I never told a soul.

This definetly happened!

blaze1

Candie wrote: »

This kind of reaction is why male victims of inappropriate sexual contact or sexual abuse find it hard to disclose.

Reverse the genders and no one would be so congratulatory.

It happened 5 times at her house. I'm sure if he didn't want to go back he wouldn't of.

Stinicker

catallus wrote: »

I got blowjobs from my English teacher when I was in 6th Year, I was 17, she was hot and in her 40's I think. I never told a soul.

That never happens to anyone on boards, you sure you didn't fall asleep watching xvideos or something? I doubt anyone here has ever had a BJ?

BraziliaNZ

Whether he enjoyed it or not is besides the point. A child that age humping a woman in her 30s could skew their view of women and sex and relationships in the future. It's a delicate age and she should be punished accordingly.

BraziliaNZ

I Heart Internet wrote: »

This definetly happened!

Maybe it did happen, what makes you think this stuff doesn't happen?

BraziliaNZ

blaze1 wrote: »

It happened 5 times at her house. I'm sure if he didn't want to go back he wouldn't of.

I know a girl in her 30s now who hooked up with her 30-odd year old grinds teacher when she was 16. Not sex but kissing etc.
Is that wrong? I'm sure she enjoyed it but if she was going back again and again for sex does it means it ok because she wanted to?

Standman

Candie wrote: »

This kind of reaction is why male victims of inappropriate sexual contact or sexual abuse find it hard to disclose.

Reverse the genders and no one would be so congratulatory.

He was 17 for fuck sake

Billy86

Standman wrote: »

He was 17 for fuck sake

He was 15 actually, when it began. That has been mentioned multiple times on this thread already.

blaze1 wrote: »

It happened 5 times at her house. I'm sure if he didn't want to go back he wouldn't of.

There is no evidence I have seen that he wasn't blackmailed or anything to do so (for example the grades your teachers give you over the year mean a lot more to your college hopes in the US than they do here), or even just manipulated - both of which would be perfect reason for him to go back. Not saying it happened like that, but not saying it didn't either... but how come when it's a woman everyone is so quick to jump to their defence?

And why was he so willing to implicate her to the police if everything was so innocent and consensual?

Obviously the law will apply different because the other example I gave was in England while this is in Utah, but what is the difference between this female teacher having sex with a 15 year old student and the male teacher having sex with his 14 year old female student?

Uriel.

Billy86 wrote: »

And why was he so willing to implicate her to the police if everything was so innocent and consensual?

You're spot on with most of what you say.

But the above could be explained, by, for example, love's young dream being shattered for some reasons. If the "relationship" was completely consensual with not coercion whatsoever, he might still well involve the police for a host of reasons, including her "breaking up" with him.

We don't seem to know any of the facts so almost everything is wild speculation, but I am just pointing out that there may be other reasons for going to the police (including selfish ones) than sexual abuse or the like.

Red Nissan

Ouch, So teacher has a pet for a while and moves on to another and previous pet gets jealous and dobs her in?