Campagnolo veloce or tiagra

sullzz

I ordered my new bike , I have the option of the campagnolo veloce or the shimano tiagra group sets , the tiagra group set comes with 105 shifters , anyone have an opinion on either , at the moment I'm using ultegra , I've never used campag before , but did use sora , not great to use on the drops but the campag have the tumb shifter in a more accessible location , which are more reliable between the 2 . I know people say that its personal preference , I like the ultegra shifting but never minded the thumb shifting either , the guy in the bike shop said that the tiagra now would be better than my current ultegra ?

bcmf

Veloce. By a mile (or 1.6km)

Cee-Jay-Cee

I would take Tiagra but thats just me and only because I like shimano gears. I had a spin on a Ridley Orion with veloce groupset and while it was ok and i had no problems with it, I just didnt like it, even though I loved the bike itself. I think the best thing for you to do is to take a veloce equipped bike for a spin and see for yourself. The new 10spd tiagra is as good as 2yr old 105 and if the bike has the newer 105 shifters with the hidden cables then its better than the older 105 IMO.

sullzz

Yeah it has the new shifters with hidden cables , one of my mates has an Orion with veloce , he hasn't got any problems with it , he went from 105 to that , I'd just be afraid of not taking to it , but at the same time I'm thinking uugggh tiagra

sullzz

bcmf wrote: »

Veloce. By a mile (or 1.6km)

Why so ?
Do you use veloce or is it cos its vs tiagra

happytramp

The more expensive of the two, it's lighter, looks better and is the Campagnolo equivalent of Shimano 105. Yeah, it would be no contest for me.

sullzz

happytramp wrote: »

The more expensive of the two, it's lighter, looks better and is the Campagnolo equivalent of Shimano 105. Yeah, it would be no contest for me.

The bike will cost me the same with either set on it , I must take my mates bike for a decent spin and see what I think of the veloce .

Seaneh

I'd take tiagra.

I can't be dealing with thumb shifters.

RobFowl

I run shimano on all my bikes but if I had to choose veloce or tiagra I'd go veloce. Not even a close choice IMO.

Cee-Jay-Cee

sullzz wrote: »

Yeah it has the new shifters with hidden cables , one of my mates has an Orion with veloce , he hasn't got any problems with it , he went from 105 to that , I'd just be afraid of not taking to it , but at the same time I'm thinking uugggh tiagra

If your current bike has ultegra then swap front and rear derailleurs onto the new bike or better still buy new front & rear 105 or ultegra derailleurs, they're not actually that expensive and you can sell the Tiagra parts to recoup some of the money. You can upgrade the crankset and brakes at a later stage if you wish.

sullzz

CJC999 wrote: »

If your current bike has ultegra then swap front and rear derailleurs onto the new bike or better still buy new front & rear 105 or ultegra derailleurs, they're not actually that expensive and you can sell the Tiagra parts to recoup some of the money. You can upgrade the crankset and brakes at a later stage if you wish.

That's a non runner , after me convincing her to let me change my bike I dare not suggest that I start upgrading parts on it , I think I'd be bet with with the bike :eek:

Cee-Jay-Cee

sullzz wrote: »

That's a non runner , after me convincing her to let me change my bike I dare not suggest that I start upgrading parts on it , I think I'd be bet with with the bike :eek:

Order the parts before you get the bike, get the LBS to fit them prior to you picking it up and she'll be none the wiser. What they don't know won't hurt them.

countrykid

sullzz wrote: »

I ordered my new bike , I have the option of the campagnolo veloce or the shimano tiagra group sets , the tiagra group set comes with 105 shifters , anyone have an opinion on either , at the moment I'm using ultegra , I've never used campag before , but did use sora , not great to use on the drops but the campag have the tumb shifter in a more accessible location , which are more reliable between the 2 . I know people say that its personal preference , I like the ultegra shifting but never minded the thumb shifting either , the guy in the bike shop said that the tiagra now would be better than my current ultegra ?

Veloce mechs, calipers and crank are all far superior to the shimano tiagra..
However!! The levers aren't .. They are the newer 10 speed power shift variation of campag 10 speed and do not have the longevity of the older ultra shift..
That said... A set of levers is €120...
So not bank breaking if you need to replace 1 in a couple of years..
But you will need to if you are doing mileage..
They just don't last

happytramp

countrykid wrote: »

Veloce mechs, calipers and crank are all far superior to the shimano tiagra..
However!! The levers aren't .. They are the newer 10 speed power shift variation of campag 10 speed and do not have the longevity of the older ultra shift..
That said... A set of levers is €120...
So not bank breaking if you need to replace 1 in a couple of years..
But you will need to if you are doing mileage..
They just don't last

Campagnolo parts are designed so that they can be rebuilt and fixed if anything break whereas the Tiagra part will have to be replaced. I switched from Shimano to Campagnolo and have had no issues with it. The thumb shifters work really well and levers are extremely comfortable. Shifting wise there's much of a muchness between them they both work fine. The main difference for me is the looks and the weight. I like the way that Campagnolo's lower groups look more or less identical to the higher ones and weigh substantially less than their Shimano counterparts. I would still say that comfort should be a deciding factor though.

ford2600

happytramp wrote: »

Campagnolo parts are designed so that they can be rebuilt and fixed if anything break whereas the Tiagra part will have to be replaced. I switched from Shimano to Campagnolo and have had no issues with it. The thumb shifters work really well and levers are extremely comfortable. Shifting wise there's much of a muchness between them they both work fine. The main difference for me is the looks and the weight. I like the way that Campagnolo's lower groups look more or less identical to the higher ones and weigh substantially less than their Shimano counterparts. I would still say that comfort should be a deciding factor though.

Have tiagra on my road bike. Has been trouble free for circa 15k km.

In saying that hired a bike in Sicily in September for a jaunt up Etna and it had Veloce. Personally found hoods very comfy. Didn't like the idea of thumb shifters but they felt very good to.

Really OP you need to try both to decide which feels best. No one here can answer for you

Unless you do very high mileage you won't test durability of either

bcmf

As what was said earlier. Try the veloce and see what you think.
My personal preference would be to get the veloce and swap out the shifters for a set of 2009-10 set with the multi up and down shifting but that sounds a bit messy I suppose when the new shifters are as good as the old one.

sullzz

Thanks lads , I appreciate the advice , I'll be going out for a spin later , I think ill swap bikes with my mate who has the veloce and give it a shot . It's not a decision I want to jump into , funds will be zero when I buy the new bike

mistermatthew

sullzz wrote: »

Thanks lads , I appreciate the advice , I'll be going out for a spin later , I think ill swap bikes with my mate who has the veloce and give it a shot . It's not a decision I want to jump into , funds will be zero when I buy the new bike

Campag Stands out from the crowd:) A much nicer groupset to look at, although the 105 levers with the hidden cable are excellent.
I find the thumb shifter handier than the shimano two levers.

happytramp

mistermatthew wrote: »

Campag Stands out from the crowd:) A much nicer groupset to look at, although the 105 levers with the hidden cable are excellent.
I find the thumb shifter handier than the shimano two levers.

Yeah, you do often get a second glance from people looking at your bike that's true.

I do think you should sit them side by side and see which hoods you like the feel of better, since this is where 99% of your interaction with any group set will come. Personally I think they're both perfectly comfortable.

sullzz

Alright las so I borrowed my mates Orion with veloce , for last night and tonight , although it looks great and shifts nicely I don't think I could leave shimano , I probably could get used to the campag but i think I'll stick to shimano , thanks lads for your advice I do appreciate it.

RobFowl

sullzz wrote: »

Alright las so I borrowed my mates Orion with veloce , for last night and tonight , although it looks great and shifts nicely I don't think I could leave shimano , I probably could get used to the campag but i think I'll stick to shimano , thanks lads for your advice I do appreciate it.

Am about to change to Campag myself on road bike but will stay Shimano on winter/cross/mtb.....

bcmf

RobFowl wrote: »

Am about to change to Campag myself on road bike but will stay Shimano on winter/cross/mtb.....

....In a big deep booming Texan drawl.......I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT,Y'ALL.TULLIO CAME TO ME AND SPOKE TO ME AND HE SAID 'ROB FOWL, YOU HAVE BEEN IN THE WILDERNESS OF SHIMANO FOR TOO LONG.I AM HERE TO SAVE YOUR CYCLING SOUL' . YEAH.

I like your thinking.Keep the Shimano for the mud and the proper stuff for proper cycling.