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Investigation launched after a baby was found living in car boot in France

  • 29-10-2013 8:23am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 341 ✭✭Hownowcow


    http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/1028/483155-france-baby-boot/

    I thought that I had become inured to the way people treat other people. The levels of inhumanity to which people will stoop are something that I have gotten used to from reading history and current affairs. However this article got to me. How could anyone treat a child in this manner.

    There are people in this world who would dearly love to have a child and cannot. They would do without just so that child could have a better life. Yet in this case apparently the parents of the child, the people who should be most concerned about her welfare, treated her appallingly.

    The poor little mite.


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  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Paola Delightful Rattan


    :(:(:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭Gee_G


    What the **** is wrong with these people?? He should be castrated and she should be sterilized(is that what you call it) because they should never ever be allowed to be near kids again, never mind have any! Sick!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,091 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    saw the article in the paper. very strange.
    he denies knowing about the child. just when i think nothing more will surprise me along comes something.
    will be interesting to learn more as the news comes out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,955 ✭✭✭Conall Cernach


    If you had knowingly locked a child in the boot of your car why would you then take the car to a garage? These people are obviously insane.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 637 ✭✭✭ruthloss


    bluewolf wrote: »
    :(:(:(


    I know, me too.:(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,564 ✭✭✭quad_red


    The mechanic who found the girl, Guillaume Iguacel, told AFP on Monday that he was still reeling from the discovery.

    "I'm still having trouble sleeping, it was a horrifying sight, seeing this little girl in her own excrement, not able to hold up her head, white as a sheet," he said.

    It's really unnerved me. Keep thinking of that scene in the movie Seven where the guy is chained to the bed.

    It's just unfathomably cruel and horrific. WTF? :(

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2013/10/france-shock-after-baby-found-car-boot-2013102933837464436.html


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I saw a clip of it on the news last night. The poor guy who found her was distraught. He said he has never seen such "horror".

    It is one of the most horrific stories I've heard in a while, I just cannot comprehend something like this. It almost doesn't seem as though it can be real. The poor little thing. What could a child ever do to deserve any sort of abuse, let alone something like this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭Matt_Trakker


    Sounds like the premise to a baddie in a superhero movie.
    "Shunned by a society that didn't care, superbaby lived out her early days in a car boot vowing to take revenge against.....etc etc."


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sounds like the premise to a baddie in a superhero movie.
    "Shunned by a society that didn't care, superbaby lived out her early days in a car boot vowing to take revenge against.....etc etc."

    I didn't realise there was a funny side to child abuse.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,162 ✭✭✭Augmerson


    I didn't realise there was a funny side to child abuse.

    Welcome to AH : /


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Jaysus :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,758 ✭✭✭Laois_Man


    10 YEARS IN PRISON???

    Should be at least 10 years living in the boot of a car!!!!


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Augmerson wrote: »
    Welcome to AH : /

    Don't judge an entire forum and its posters by a small few.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,000 ✭✭✭mitosis


    Would the father have given over the car for repair to a mechanic if he knew the child existed or was in it? I don't think so. I expect he will be exonerated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    I saw a clip of it on the news last night. The poor guy who found her was distraught. He said he has never seen such "horror".

    It is one of the most horrific stories I've heard in a while, I just cannot comprehend something like this. It almost doesn't seem as though it can be real. The poor little thing. What could a child ever do to deserve any sort of abuse, let alone something like this.

    Apparently the man who found the child has a baby on the way. He said he can't sleep.

    I've two children and I actually can't get the image of a child being kept confined like that out of my head. If you don't want the child, give it to someone who does.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭Matt_Trakker


    I didn't realise there was a funny side to child abuse.

    You should probably never ever ever go to Sikipedia so.
    Or Bt3a, or a live stand up comedy show involving Tommy Tiernan, Louis CK, Frankie Boyle etc., or watch South Park.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,309 ✭✭✭✭Grandeeod


    I have to say that one of the things that helps me be a good parent is reading about bad parents.


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You should probably never ever ever go to Sikipedia so.
    Or Bt3a, or a live stand up comedy show involving Tommy Tiernan, Louis CK, Frankie Boyle etc., or watch South Park.

    I've done all those things (apart from Louis CK).

    Time and place dude. This is not the time, and this thread is not the place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭seenitall


    Grandeeod wrote: »
    I have to say that one of the things that helps me be a good parent is reading about bad parents.

    This is a whole different stratosphere to 'bad parents'. I am a bad parent sometimes. But reading this item just made me so heartbroken. I really, really wish I hadn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,065 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    Hownowcow wrote: »
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/1028/483155-france-baby-boot/

    I thought that I had become inured to the way people treat other people. The levels of inhumanity to which people will stoop are something that I have gotten used to from reading history and current affairs. However this article got to me. How could anyone treat a child in this manner.

    There are people in this world who would dearly love to have a child and cannot. They would do without just so that child could have a better life. Yet in this case apparently the parents of the child, the people who should be most concerned about her welfare, treated her appallingly.

    The poor little mite.

    happens all the time


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    Jesus, that is just terrible.

    I felt guilty for giving my 3 year old cheerios instead of cornflakes this morning....how someone could do this to a child that needs care and nurturing is way beyond me.

    Hopefully the kid will get the care they need now and will catch up on their normal developmental process.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭Sniipe


    Gosh this really affects me (father of 2). It enrages me (to the point of whitening knuckles) to think that something like this is possible. I can only guess that the mother (or anyone who was involved) is mentally sick.

    Children are so innocent and defenceless. Some parts of society are cruel/sick. Mix the two together and you get the likes of this, or that Chinese girl who was knocked over and left for dead, or that Chinese boy who's eyes were gouged out, or that baby that was beaten by his mother - unfortunately the list goes on. I'd prefer not to hear about these things, but at the same time its good for society to hear about these acts of madness. We probably only hear about a small portion and many more (kids) suffer??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,470 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Don't judge an entire forum and its posters by a small few.

    what are ya saying? that's the AH way :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    You should probably never ever ever go to Sikipedia so.
    Or Bt3a, or a live stand up comedy show involving Tommy Tiernan, Louis CK, Frankie Boyle etc., or watch South Park.
    Anyone who singles out a particular incident of child abuse for "humour" purposes is just a nerd trying to feel bad-ass. They know it's not funny, they're just being shocking for shocking's sake.
    Taking the piss out of paedophiles or the public/media hysterical reaction to child abuse is fair game and can be very sharp observational humour with a point to it, but just using a specific child abuse victim for the purpose of a "joke" has no wit whatsoever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    I felt guilty for giving my 3 year old cheerios instead of cornflakes this morning....

    If there's one thing I learned in the past few years it's that ya gotta picks your battles when it comes to 3 yr olds


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    Sniipe wrote: »
    Gosh this really affects me (father of 2). It enrages me (to the point of whitening knuckles) to think that something like this is possible. I can only guess hope that the mother (or anyone who was involved) is mentally sick.

    For me, I can only hope that it is a mental illness, deficiency. However there's part of me that thinks there are people out there that are just bad, lack a certain empathy or whatever. Could be that she had an affair and the child was a result and therefore she didn't want her husband to know etc. etc.

    I think mental illness would be a lot easier to swallow than the knowledge there are people out there that are just that evil.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    Anyone who singles out a particular incident of child abuse for "humour" purposes is just a nerd trying to feel bad-ass. They know it's not funny, they're just being shocking for shocking's sake.

    Personally I think shock humour is never really funny and most often quite vulgar. I much prefer clever humour without any need for cursing, shock value etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,003 ✭✭✭handlemaster


    Just very sick thing to do. Something seriously wrong


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭Vito Corleone


    It's a horrible incident, but I found the joke amusing I have to say. It had a truth to it that was funny. Maybe I'm just a terrible person? :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    It's a horrible incident, but I found the joke amusing I have to say. It had a truth to it that was funny. Maybe I'm just a terrible person? :pac:
    It's not the nastiest of those kinda jokes I guess.

    Saw something recently which was someone's impression of how "Maddie" would look now. And it was a bruised, bloodied girl-like doll. And it was received as a joke, because it makes people who say they find such a thing funny feel real cool. Something along those lines was more what I was thinking about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 402 ✭✭The Big Smoke


    Absolutely shocking. BOTH parents had to have had screws loose.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Absolutely shocking. BOTH parents had to have had screws loose.


    Apparently he didn't know. Apparently.

    They had three other kids, which is just frightening.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Been thinking about it on and off since I read it. Some things just unfortunately stick in the mind.

    Your senses and sensory 'soaking up' must never be more acute than when you're a baby and to keep them locked away in sensory deprivation like that is just chilling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,902 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    It's been said a million times before...

    You need a licence to have an animal but not a child.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    anncoates wrote: »
    Been thinking about it on and off since I read it. Some things just unfortunately stick in the mind.

    Your senses and sensory 'soaking up' must never be more acute than when you're a baby and to keep them locked away in sensory deprivation like that is just chilling.

    I've read (concerning cases over here) of children so neglected they associate the bin and floor with food, or not toilet trained and approaching adolescence, without any social skills etc.....but even they had some form of human interaction and some stimuli, limited and vile though it may have been.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    Nodin wrote: »
    I've read (concerning cases over here) of children so neglected they associate the bin and floor with food, or not toilet trained and approaching adolescence, without any social skills etc.....but even they had some form of human interaction and some stimuli, limited and vile though it may have been.

    That kind of thing just makes we want to go home, wake up my kids and give them lots of cuddles and tell them I love them.

    :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Nodin wrote: »
    I've read (concerning cases over here) of children so neglected they associate the bin and floor with food, or not toilet trained and approaching adolescence, without any social skills etc.....but even they had some form of human interaction and some stimuli, limited and vile though it may have been.

    As much a splenetic AH cliché it is, I'm at the age now where I have friends that are utterly devastated by their inability to have children and to think that they are so little value to other people....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,065 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    ur kule nd badass d wai u akt so cudnt care less itz reely imprssiv

    I do care, but this **** happens all the time, the media is only following these stories at the mo cos the public are gobbling them up


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I do care, but this **** happens all the time, the media is only following these stories at the mo cos the public are gobbling them up

    Naked malnourished babies are regularly found in car boots?

    Bullsh*t.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,065 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    Naked malnourished babies are regularly found in car boots?

    Bullsh*t.

    children die under unusual circumstances every day


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭nibtrix


    I felt guilty for giving my 3 year old cheerios instead of cornflakes this morning.....

    Not to derail the thread, but Cheerios have more fibre and less sugar than Cornflakes, why would you feel guilty about that?


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