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Which bread is best to buy for weight loss?

  • 28-10-2013 12:44pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭x00065954


    I know any bread that is shop bought is bought and I really should cut it out of my diet but I just can't especially when I need a quick breakfast.

    So my question to you all is which shop bought bread is best for weight loss? I know I should be looking out for whole grain breads but there is so much out there and I dont know which actually is what it says it is?

    Even if a guideline to what I actually should be looking out for in the nutritional value would be great? I read them all the time but tbh its all gibberish to me.

    "So is 2.6g of fat, 6.3g carbs, 120kc per slice good?"

    Thanks guys


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    People are just going to tell you do without bread and to substitute it for porridge and nuts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,390 ✭✭✭Stench Blossoms


    The best bread is no bread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,186 ✭✭✭✭Sangre


    First thing I cut off when trying to lose weight. Incredible the difference it makes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭Ri_Nollaig


    Just my completely unprofessional opinion...

    I dont think any bread other than just a smaller slice is really gonna be any better (and thats for both white/brown, wholewheat whatever).
    I would imagine any average slice would be in or around 80-100 calories per slice, shop bought or otherwise.
    That means 2 slices of buttered toast is about the same as a Mars bar, and lets be honest, 2 slices is nothing, you will be hunger again in no time.

    If you are trying to lose weight its something you should really try and remove or atleast greatly reduce. I used to eat about 4-8 slices a day and thought nothing of it, but within a week or two of removing it I honestly didn't miss it.
    When it comes to losing weight it really is all about trying to reduce calories and any 'healthly' bread is really just gonna mean it has more fibre/protein etc over another type, it will still have in or around (and maybe more) calories.
    By the way, bread really should include all "breads" so rolls, wraps, begals whatever, should all be included in it and all removed if you are trying to lose weight.

    Saying that, I have heard of Ezekiel Bread being recommend in the past, I have never tried it myself. I believe its calorie count would be about the same but would be much higher in protein. Could be worth checking out, its meant to be pricey by the way.

    Overall, a replacement is really what you should be looking for. If you like eggs then you have your answer!
    Only takes 5 mins to make a soft-boiled egg, if time is really an issue you could hardboil a batch and have them each morning.
    Porridge if you like it is quick and easy, adding a few berries can completely change its taste.
    Bacon would be another good choice if you have the time for it.
    Leftovers from the previous night, re-heated would also be a good option. There are no "rules" on what can only be eaten at breakfast time :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 964 ✭✭✭riveratom


    x00065954 wrote: »
    I know any bread that is shop bought is bought and I really should cut it out of my diet but I just can't especially when I need a quick breakfast.

    So my question to you all is which shop bought bread is best for weight loss? I know I should be looking out for whole grain breads but there is so much out there and I dont know which actually is what it says it is?

    Even if a guideline to what I actually should be looking out for in the nutritional value would be great? I read them all the time but tbh its all gibberish to me.

    "So is 2.6g of fat, 6.3g carbs, 120kc per slice good?"

    Thanks guys

    If you're serious about losing the chub then you'll need to just drop bread. There is no real point just cutting it way down, as it is more or less addictive and one slice is never enough!

    Bread is loaded with carbs and calories, it jacks up your blood sugar and this basically means you are making it hard for your body to burn fat, since all it has to do is use energy from the bread and other high-carb foods.

    I gave up bread last Wed, haven't had any bread or cereal since then (and very little carbs in general). I used to think I couldn't manage without bread but trust me, you won't miss it if you fill up on good quality protein sources instead!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    I find Ryvita an excellent bread substitute in situations where you just feel you need bread. The only place it doesnt work is as garlic bread. I use it instead of toast with breakfast, instead of bread slices as sandwiches, to dip in soup, anywhere really that youd use bread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭Ri_Nollaig


    I find Ryvita an excellent bread substitute in situations where you just feel you need bread. The only place it doesnt work is as garlic bread. I use it instead of toast with breakfast, instead of bread slices as sandwiches, to dip in soup, anywhere really that youd use bread.
    But is it really a substitute if your goal is to lose weight?

    Going by the nutritional values here:
    http://www.ryvita.co.uk/products/crispbread/original-crispbread
    and taking an average Irish bread from here:
    http://www.brennansbread.ie/products/brennans-family-pan/
    http://www.brennansbread.ie/products/brennans-wholemeal/

    (per 100g)
    Ryvita is 350kcal [66.9g carbs, 8.5g protein, 1.7g fat]
    White Bread 219kcal [43g carbs, 8.7g protein, 1.4g fat]
    Brown Bread 221kcal [38.5g carbs, 9.8g protein, 1.7g fat]

    So infact the bread is actually better for you! The only real difference is the Ryvita slices are just smaller.

    Conclusion: avoid both if you are serious about the weight loss.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    Ri_Nollaig wrote: »
    But is it really a substitute if your goal is to lose weight?

    Going by the nutritional values here:
    http://www.ryvita.co.uk/products/crispbread/original-crispbread
    and taking an average Irish bread from here:
    http://www.brennansbread.ie/products/brennans-family-pan/
    http://www.brennansbread.ie/products/brennans-wholemeal/

    (per 100g)
    Ryvita is 350kcal [66.9g carbs, 8.5g protein, 1.7g fat]
    White Bread 219kcal [43g carbs, 8.7g protein, 1.4g fat]
    Brown Bread 221kcal [38.5g carbs, 9.8g protein, 1.7g fat]

    So infact the bread is actually better for you! The only real difference is the Ryvita slices are just smaller.

    Conclusion: avoid both if you are serious about the weight loss.

    35 calories per slice of Ryvita. I'm not suggesting eating it weight for weight!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,666 ✭✭✭Howjoe1


    I agree that no bread is best option for weight loss.

    Any thoughts on Rice cakes as opposed to Ryvita?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭dealornodeal23


    Nimble bread you can get them in Lidl I find them good


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Transform


    wheat based bread = bad

    gluten free bread = better (many companies vary in their standard)

    Knowing what your overall diet is like and whether your carb intake matches up with your fat loss goals, current body fat and overall activity levels = win.

    Its not just the bread per se (yes wheat is a toxin) but the other items you need to pay close attention to


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,369 ✭✭✭Thephantomsmask


    I like a little bread now and then as a treat, I've started making my own sourdough with kamut/khorasan flour and some rye. The kamut is an ancient wheat variety that afaik doesn't have as much of the toxins associated with modern dwarf wheat and a slow sourdough rise helps with pre-fermenting some of the available sugars. No bread is better overall, I did strict keto for a year, but in my case at least I've never had bloating problems from wheat so the occasional slice of a good quality bread that I know the exact ingredients of isn't going to break the bank.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    x00065954 wrote: »
    "So is 2.6g of fat, 6.3g carbs, 120kc per slice good?"
    Ri_Nollaig wrote: »
    I dont think any bread other than just a smaller slice is really gonna be any better (and thats for both white/brown, wholewheat whatever).
    I would imagine any average slice would be in or around 80-100 calories per slice, shop bought or otherwise.
    Yes, the values per slice are meaningless, you really want per 100g when comparing regular breads.

    I posted this before

    This is brennans weight watcher bread
    http://www.brennansbread.ie/products/brennans-weight-watchers-white-bread/
    Ingredients

    Wheat Flour, Water, Yeast, Salt, Vegetable Oil, Soya Flour, Emulsifier Mono- and diacetyl tartaric acid esters of mono-and diglycerides of fatty acids, Flour Treatment Agent :Ascorbic Acid.

    Big on flavour but low on calories, our WeightWatchers White has just 47 calories or 1 ProPoints per slice, making it amongst the lowest in Ireland.
    WeightWatchers White 400g

    Nutritional Information

    Nutritional Information (per 100g)
    Energy kJ 991
    Energy kcal 223
    Protein 9.0g
    Carbohydrates 46.4g
    of which sugars 2.1g
    Fat 1.3g
    of which are saturates 0.2g
    Fibre 2.2g
    Sodium 0.5g
    Salt 1.3g

    Nutritional Information (per slice)
    Energy kJ 198
    Energy kcal 47
    Protein 1.8g
    Carbohydrates 9.3g
    of which sugars 0.4g
    Fat 0.3g
    of which are saturates <0.1g
    Fibre 0.4g
    Sodium 0.10g
    Salt 0.3g

    And brennans regular white in the yellow packet
    http://www.brennansbread.ie/products/brennans-family-pan/
    Brennans
    Family Pan 800g

    Ingredients

    Wheat Flour, Water, Yeast, Salt, Vegetable Oil, Soya Flour, Emulsifier :E472e, Flour Treatment Agent: Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C).

    Nutritional Information

    Nutritional Information (per 100g)
    Energy kJ 920
    Energy kcal 219
    Protein 8.7g
    Carbohydrates 43g
    Sugar 2.42g
    Fat 1.4g
    Saturated Fat 0.4g
    Fibre 2.8g
    Sodium 0.45g
    Salt 1.1g

    Nutritional Information (per slice)
    Energy kJ 365
    Energy kcal 87
    Protein 3.48g
    Carbohydrates 17.2g
    Sugar 0.98g
    Fat 0.56g
    Saturated Fat 0.16g
    Fibre 1.12g
    Sodium 0.18g
    Salt 0.44g

    The regular bread is lower in calories per 100g, so this "Big on flavour but low on calories" is nonsense.

    White has just 47 calories or 1 ProPoints per slice, making it amongst the lowest in Ireland. most miserably small slices of bread in Ireland.
    Ri_Nollaig wrote: »
    So infact the bread is actually better for you! The only real difference is the Ryvita slices are just smaller.
    Some Ryvitas are rye based, some might value this. I value the fact that they are not dense. So they appear substantial like a wispa bar or aero or malteasers might satisfy someone looking for a "regular bar".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 767 ✭✭✭duffyshuffle


    'Needing' a quick breakfast is the issue. Eggs don't take long to make, and it's very easy to make an omelet or Spanish omelet the night before and eat it the next morning. You just have to be organized.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,932 ✭✭✭huskerdu


    rubadub wrote: »

    Some Ryvitas are rye based, some might value this. I value the fact that they are not dense. So they appear substantial like a wispa bar or aero or malteasers might satisfy someone looking for a "regular bar".


    I find Ryvita very filling and I am full for much longer then after eating bread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 696 ✭✭✭fungie


    I eat a couple slices of brown bread and a bread roll for lunch during the week and lose weight. Once you are within your calorie intake and hitting your macros its fine. I wouldn't deprive myself of any type of food, I find in the long run it makes it unsustainable.


  • Subscribers Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭conzy


    Doesn't need to be cut but should be treated as a "treat" or a snack as apposed to a staple.

    Lots of people have 2-4 slices of bread for breakfast, a roll / wrap at lunch, breaded fish / chicken or pizza for dinner etc etc thats way too much.

    A few sandwiches a week or peanut butter on toast etc are not going to make or break your diet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Transform


    It makes or breaks your nutrition to the degree you are individually affected by consuming e.g. Bread,

    I see more positive non weight loss/fat loss benefits from cutting out wheat than anything else with clients every week e.g. Less bloating, improved concentration, massive reduction in joint pain, clearing up of eczema and acne (see this one all the time), reduced cholesterol and have a client that's a type 1 diabetic report that his doctor thought his insulin dose machine was broken as he was using so little.

    I have yet to see the elimination of ANY food improve so many and varied conditions. IMO in years to come wheat (dwarf variant modified wheat) will
    become the new smoking especially when combined with poor intestinal and gut bacteria health.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 964 ✭✭✭riveratom


    Transform wrote: »
    It makes or breaks your nutrition to the degree you are individually affected by consuming e.g. Bread,

    I see more positive non weight loss/fat loss benefits from cutting out wheat than anything else with clients every week e.g. Less bloating, improved concentration, massive reduction in joint pain, clearing up of eczema and acne (see this one all the time), reduced cholesterol and have a client that's a type 1 diabetic report that his doctor thought his insulin dose machine was broken as he was using so little.

    I have yet to see the elimination of ANY food improve so many and varied conditions. IMO in years to come wheat (dwarf variant modified wheat) will
    become the new smoking especially when combined with poor intestinal and gut bacteria health.

    Exactly. No point in saying 'bread is grand x times per week', etc as wheat and carbs in general affect different people to different levels.

    I haven't had a slice for a week now (nor any cereal), and I don't miss it one iota (I always used to think I couldn't do without it). If you eat a high protein, moderate-high fat diet instead, you won't go hungry and you won't need bread!

    I'd add to the above list that I am sleeping like a baby without it too. Not that I didn't before, it's just an even deeper sleep now it seems.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    huskerdu wrote: »
    I find Ryvita very filling and I am full for much longer then after eating bread.

    +1
    I value it for the fibre also. And I generally like crunchy foods.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 cindy11


    Wholemeal Bread with no added sugar..

    That is the best one . Read the labels.. I cannot tell you about brands!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Transform


    cindy11 wrote: »
    Wholemeal Bread with no added sugar..

    That is the best one . Read the labels.. I cannot tell you about brands!
    thats still the wrong answer - there is NO best one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭dor843088


    All bread is great for weight loss . Avoid bread is what dummies do when trying to lose weight. Calorie intake is the deciding factor in terms of weight loss no matter if you eat no bread at all or a slice pan a day . If you like bread eat it just reduce your calories .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,186 ✭✭✭✭Sangre


    So how does that make bread "great" for weight loss? No one says you can't lose weight while eating bread, its just a lot easier to lose weight without it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭dor843088


    Sangre wrote: »
    So how does that make bread "great" for weight loss? No one says you can't lose weight while eating bread, its just a lot easier to lose weight without it.
    2 slices 30 carbs 150calories . Filling , low calorie, relatively low carb , high fibre, easy to make , transport and consume on the go .

    Bread it almost magical .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,390 ✭✭✭Stench Blossoms


    dor843088 wrote: »
    2 slices 30 carbs 150calories . Filling , low calorie, relatively low carb , high fibre, easy to make , transport and consume on the go .

    Bread it almost magical .

    I think you and Cindy should get together and write a book.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    dor843088 wrote: »
    Avoid bread is what dummies do when trying to lose weight. .
    You will find a lot of dummies posting saying it worked very well for them, me included.
    dor843088 wrote: »
    If you like bread eat it just reduce your calories .
    That "just" is what people have difficulty with. We are not feeding coma patients or rats in a cage, people are free to eat stuff around them. By giving up bread, usually eaten in high calorie portions, people have options of eating other foods, lower in calories but with the same satisfying effect on hunger. So they are less likely to be snacking on other things.

    A burger bun has about the same calories as a quarter pounder pattie.
    And I generally like crunchy foods.
    I have switched from iceberg to chopped up raw cabbage lately, nice & crunchy, and a great filler.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,186 ✭✭✭✭Sangre


    dor843088 wrote: »
    2 slices 30 carbs 150calories . Filling , low calorie, relatively low carb , high fibre, easy to make , transport and consume on the go .

    Bread it almost magical .
    More like 180 and don't forget whatever is spread on it unless you're eating it plain which most people won't.

    Also I don't think I'm alone in thinking that bread is not filling at all given the calories in it.

    Now don't get me wrong, bread is one of my favourite food items but its removal makes weight loss significantly easier and I think you're being disengenuous to argue otherwise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Transform


    I think you and Cindy should get together and write a book.
    h19583F16

    agreed, shakes head


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Neon_Lights


    Carbs are bad mkay! :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    I think you and Cindy should get together and write a book.

    Foreword by Old Mr Brennan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭dor843088


    Out of shape anti bread brigade is strong today !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,390 ✭✭✭Stench Blossoms


    dor843088 wrote: »
    Out of shape anti bread brigade is strong today !

    Who are you calling out of shape?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 964 ✭✭✭riveratom


    dor843088 wrote: »
    All bread is great for weight loss . Avoid bread is what dummies do when trying to lose weight. Calorie intake is the deciding factor in terms of weight loss no matter if you eat no bread at all or a slice pan a day . If you like bread eat it just reduce your calories .

    Trollin'?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭dor843088


    Who are you calling out of shape?

    You and all your anti bread buddies. Wise move editing the fatty comment btw.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,390 ✭✭✭Stench Blossoms


    I'm far from out of shape mate.

    You're trolling is getting tiring now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,186 ✭✭✭✭Sangre


    Man, I'd love some bread right now!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 293 ✭✭GorillaRising


    rubadub wrote: »
    That "just" is what people have difficulty with. We are not feeding coma patients or rats in a cage, people are free to eat stuff around them. By giving up bread, usually eaten in high calorie portions, people have options of eating other foods, lower in calories but with the same satisfying effect on hunger. So they are less likely to be snacking on other things.

    What about a small portions of bread that amount to about 160kcal per day?

    Why does it have to be lots of bread vs no bread? To suit an agenda it seems.
    Sangre wrote: »
    More like 180 and don't forget whatever is spread on it unless you're eating it plain which most people won't.

    Isn't butter usually recommended on here though so surely a small bit is fine on a piece of bread?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Neon_Lights


    ****in rye bread hi! tastes like **** to make you look the **** mkay!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭dor843088


    Avoiding bread is dumb way to get from sh1t to fit but if you want to get from fit to THE sh1t you need a more educated approach.

    In short it may get you from sh1t to fit but not from fit to the sh1t.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    I want to be lots of asterisks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    Ok so if I want to be fit and take a sh1t I should eat bread, but if I want to go from **** to fit dont, but do if I want to to have a sh1t fit, be fit in my **** or sh1t myself. I am massively confused. If only somebody would post a selfie in their jocks it would explain it all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    white-bread1.jpg


    QED.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭Fraggle00


    People are just going to tell you do without bread and to substitute it for porridge and nuts.

    Using porridge makes a pretty poor sandwich.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Zaiden Savory Rider


    You could make coconut flour loaf if you really want I suppose
    I don't eat bread generally anyway so I wouldn't be using it as a sub


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    ****in rye bread hi! tastes like **** to make you look the **** mkay!

    Could you repeat this in a dialect closer to English?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,763 ✭✭✭✭Crann na Beatha


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭dor843088


    Phoenix wrote: »
    Stopped eating bread over a year ago dont miss it feel better without it!

    Placebo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 964 ✭✭✭riveratom


    dor843088 wrote: »
    Placebo

    Do you own / run a bakery by any chance??!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,650 ✭✭✭kingshankly


    In fairness the op asked which bread was best for trying to lose weight and I'm sure most will agree bread is a killer when loosing weight but nobody attempted to answer the question.
    I'm sure there are bread which are less evil than others which a slice of now and again isn't gonna hinder you too much.


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