Cows sh###ing in parlour

Farfield

Never been a problem before at all maybe 3 in 50 cows per milking. Now it's maybe 20 in 50 and nothing has changed at all, everything is very calm in the parlour. As soon as the clusters come off, god it's like running the gauntlet in the pit!!
A couple of my neighbours who have been milking cows a life time hammer any cow that dungs immediately and to be honest they have hardly any cows that crap and I have milked with them many times. To be honest I wouldn't like to do that as I would think it would make the whole herd nervous and therefore counter productive? Ideas??

Sam Kade

A few years ago Jack Kennedy asked the same question on behalf of a farmer on the journal, one of the replies he got was tell him pull up his hood

jersey101

Farfield wrote: »

Never been a problem before at all maybe 3 in 50 cows per milking. Now it's maybe 20 in 50 and nothing has changed at all, everything is very calm in the parlour. As soon as the clusters come off, god it's like running the gauntlet in the pit!!
A couple of my neighbours who have been milking cows a life time hammer any cow that dungs immediately and to be honest they have hardly any cows that crap and I have milked with them many times. To be honest I wouldn't like to do that as I would think it would make the whole herd nervous and therefore counter productive? Ideas??

Father used to give em a smack of a stick but hasnt milked em in a while and cant understand why they all **** when he does it now. Jerseys X dont usually bother

leg wax

stray electricty

fuerte1976

Not a farmer. Could be electric shocks due to poor earthing in parlour.
I work in this field and is a common prob especially in older parlours.
Is the cell count high ? Are the animals slow to enter parlour ?

Farfield

Don't think it's stray electric- all earths etc improved upon and wires etc renewed 18 months ago.

fuerte1976

leg wax wrote: »

stray electricty

you just beat me...

whelan1

had stray voltage a few years ago , you will know if you have it, cows where hopping in the parlour, it might have been made worse by the fact they stand on a metal grid

fuerte1976

Ok so if its just after the cluster comes off is it the animal that cluster was on or all steers dunging ?

whelan1

have your cows far to walk beofre they come into parlour, we would have alot more ****e when they are only going a short distance, have 1 cow that must crap on the way into the parlour and the way out:mad:

Dont be daft

fuerte1976 wrote: »

Ok so if its just after the cluster comes off is it the animal that cluster was on or all steers dunging ?

If he's milking steers, **** in the parlour is the last thing he should be worried about:P

td5man

whelan1 wrote: »

have your cows far to walk beofre they come into parlour, we would have alot more ****e when they are only going a short distance, have 1 cow that must crap on the way into the parlour and the way out:mad:

Had one of them said goodbye to her this year.

Farfield

Nah pretty sure not electric-cows come in no probs at all and not a move out of them they are all so settled and good to be honest. But if you don't get the row out fast quick when they are finished milking them they open the shoots!! I can't get them out any quicker if prepping the next row and as litres are low very low the clusters are only on a couple of minutes at most til they are off and then they get bored maybe!

td5man

They sh1t if waiting to be milked here,
If you can start milking as soon as the first few are in the parlour theres no problem.

fuerte1976

Farmer problem so !!

td5man

Farfield wrote: »

Never been a problem before at all maybe 3 in 50 cows per milking. Now it's maybe 20 in 50 and nothing has changed at all, everything is very calm in the parlour. As soon as the clusters come off, god it's like running the gauntlet in the pit!!
A couple of my neighbours who have been milking cows a life time hammer any cow that dungs immediately and to be honest they have hardly any cows that crap and I have milked with them many times. To be honest I wouldn't like to do that as I would think it would make the whole herd nervous and therefore counter productive? Ideas??

Was that your pic on facebook this evening?

whelan1

td5man wrote: »

Had one of them said goodbye to her this year.

yup my one will be going soon too

td5man

whelan1 wrote: »

yup my one will be going soon too

Ours could manage to get you no matter where you were.

Brown Podzol

Scutter all over the place up to two weeks after scanning, otherwise just the usual one or two.

whelan1

td5man wrote: »

Ours could manage to get you no matter where you were.

my one wiggles her tail as she craps

td5man

whelan1 wrote: »

my one wiggles her tail as she craps

We have another one that coughs at the same time increasing the propulsion.

bbam

Farfield wrote: »

Don't think it's stray electric- all earths etc improved upon and wires etc renewed 18 months ago.

Are you sure nothing changed recently...
I worked parlours for years and this is the no 1 reason for cows suddenly starting to ****e in the parlour...

Apart from an electric fencer which is the no1 problem. IF there was a motor on machine etc changed or new compressor on tank... Also check earthing rod for damage.. all the bonding in the world is no good if it cant get to ground.. How far off is the earth for fencer? Is it close to the earthing rod for parlour/power.

Do you have a radio on in parlour ?? It definitely seems to reduce the ****e, calms them down - once they get used to it.

lefthooker

I have one like that. I can milk all the cows without any incident until one heifer comes in and I'm pretty much guaranteed she'll unload. Usually she's in the last row but it doesn't matter when she comes in and she's only started this over a week ago. She can have a 15 min walk to the parlour and be standing for up to an hour and even **** before she comes in but has just got into the dirty habit while in the parlour. I'm lucky if she doesn't set another one or two off aswell.
It'd drive ya half mad

Farfield

Yip, once one or two crap in a row they all let rip!

RobertKK

I think some of this problem can also be inherited, had a cow who would have to dung most times she was into be milked.
She was doubtful for a TB test and I chose to get rid of her. Her daughter acts the very same of her but to a much lesser extent than the mother.
It is not too bad if they have a thicker consistency, and I am lucky there, its not the splatter kind.
I do give them 1 smack on their raised tail after they do, so they associate dunging in the milking parlour with that.

whelan1

could be worse could be pissing on ya

Farfield

And does hitting them a whack Robert kk work? Do they learn to stop

Sharpshooter82

td5man wrote: »

We have another one that coughs at the same time increasing the propulsion.

Now that's talent

Sharpshooter82

whelan1 wrote: »

could be worse could be pissing on ya

And northern gale force wind blowing

RobertKK

Farfield wrote: »

And does hitting them a whack Robert kk work? Do they learn to stop

I would say she dungs less frequent than she did in the beginning, but I do think she has a bit of her mother in her who was a bitch for dunging most times and nothing would work.
It works on some I know, but some are just serial offenders.

keep going

In the same vein but different location, I turn the cow maybe 200 yards to an outfarm a good bit and I have discovered if you dont stop them at the entrance to the road they **** a way less on the road.I other words dont have them waiting at the roadside.

Cycling Dumbasses

In killarney they have nappies for the horses doing tourist jarvey runs, could cows wear these nappies?

delaval

Cycling Dumbasses wrote: »

In killarney they have nappies for the horses doing tourist jarvey runs, could cows wear these nappies?

Of course they could but who'd change them?

bbam

I doubt they're made to cope with a huge cow when she'd be out on a fresh paddock of soft grass.
I'm not changing that one !

whelan1

was watching this morning, the majority only crap on the way out of the parlour here, i would normally be putting on other row as 1 row is walking out, if this was speeded up maybe there wouldn't be as much of it

kevthegaff

Bring them in early in the morning when theyre lying down, theyll relieve themselves when they get up and youll be grand then in the parlour

Farfield

Yes Kev the mornings are grand. When I go out to the sheds they are all lying and once they get up they dung and that's it. It's the evenings that's the bother. They are out on good grass all day, come in abut 5 in the evening and are milked about 6 and eat silage all eve and night. Like wheelan says if they were goin out quicker from the parlour it would help as they only dung after the clusters have come off and they are bored! But I can't go any quicker and if there's a fresh autumn calver in the row givin a lot of milk it holds all up- a well, such is life!!

onyerbikepat

Would a bit of straw in the diet help dry out the dung that bit anyway.
I'd double checvk for stray electricity also.

Farfield

Think I will just have to put on the splash plates!! Actually I was in a new parlour recently that was put up about a year ago and the farmer there who milks a lot of cows has nicely cut clear Perspex sheets cable tied from the top rail to the rump rail in his parlour. He said it cost very little and if a cow dungs at least it drops at their feet- not shoot across the pit like a cannon!!! He says it's a super job.

Cycling Dumbasses

bbam wrote: »

I doubt they're made to cope with a huge cow when she'd be out on a fresh paddock of soft grass.
I'm not changing that one !

Could the nappy be just put on for milking and taken off then, no need for one while they are in the fields.

satstheway

Farfield wrote: »

Think I will just have to put on the splash plates!! Actually I was in a new parlour recently that was put up about a year ago and the farmer there who milks a lot of cows has nicely cut clear Perspex sheets cable tied from the top rail to the rump rail in his parlour. He said it cost very little and if a cow dungs at least it drops at their feet- not shoot across the pit like a cannon!!! He says it's a super job.

Don't now. It would be running down udder and tail and legs. Messy

Qualitymark

Thought from the title "Cows sh###ing in parlour" it was about a more exciting activity than a bit of dung.

whelan1

would it block ya from seeing freezebrand? Although them ****ting is annoying its only really grass thats in it

td5man

whelan1 wrote: »

would it block ya from seeing freezebrand? Although them ****ting is annoying its only really grass thats in it

Have seen a parlour with the perspex fitted and it works well

fredweena

The father's cows keep the place very clean. He's very quite and gentle with them. He reckons that keeping them happy is the secret. If he's away and the neighbours are looking after the cows there's sh**e everywhere. They're awful rough with them. Hit everything with great lumps of sticks and make every job about 10 times harder on themselves.

bbam

It's often just strangers voices that set them off.
Often saw me going out on a call and cows would be in the parlour. Strange person and voice would bring in the avalanche.
Would always recommend radio. Constant strange voices and music leaves the cows more relaxed round voices.
Anything but Northern sound or LMFM, that's just cruelty to animals.

Qualitymark

bbam wrote: »

It's often just strangers voices that set them off.
Often saw me going out on a call and cows would be in the parlour. Strange person and voice would bring in the avalanche.
Would always recommend radio. Constant strange voices and music leaves the cows more relaxed round voices.
Anything but Northern sound or LMFM, that's just cruelty to animals.

What about Lyric - isn't classical music supposed to make cows give more milk?

td5man

Qualitymark wrote: »

What about Lyric - isn't classical music supposed to make cows give more milk?

Thats cruelty to humans, :-)

RobertKK

fredweena wrote: »

The father's cows keep the place very clean. He's very quite and gentle with them. He reckons that keeping them happy is the secret. If he's away and the neighbours are looking after the cows there's sh**e everywhere. They're awful rough with them. Hit everything with great lumps of sticks and make every job about 10 times harder on themselves.

Yeah, you need to treat them like pets, talk or even sing!!! to them, pet them and have them relaxed.
Department vet doing a TB test said to be me he never saw such easy going cows in his life.
My brother-in-law says they are the most stubborn he saw in his life :pac:

Some people should be banned from using sticks, use them for directing animals, not for hitting them when no need. As you say, you can do it the easy way like your father does, or the hard way like the neighbours do.

lefthooker

RobertKK wrote: »

talk or even sing!!! to them

Singing aye, there was me thinking they were spiteful divils, never thought it was me and my death metal that gets them going:D:D:D

mf240

RobertKK wrote: »

Yeah, you need to treat them like pets, talk or even sing!!! to them, pet them and have them relaxed.
Department vet doing a TB test said to be me he never saw such easy going cows in his life.o.

Apart from the singing I am the exact same.

Vet remarks on it every year at testing.