Herd number and embryo

Madden171

Hi
Just after a bit of advice I have cattle under my uncles herd number I was going to look at getting my own number, would there be any financial gain from getting my own herd number..

Also I have a embryo calf due in a month what do I need to register the calf, any help appreciated
Thanks

vermin99

Not sure of gaining much but you might get some class of payment depending on your setup ,you need to have your own crush and a shed for the herd number aswell

vermin99

Not sure of gaining much but you might get some class of payment depending on your setup ,you need to have your own crush and a shed for the herd number aswell

Bodacious

Madden171 wrote: »

Hi
Just after a bit of advice I have cattle under my uncles herd number I was going to look at getting my own number, would there be any financial gain from getting my own herd number..

Also I have a embryo calf due in a month what do I need to register the calf, any help appreciated
Thanks

unless you have land rented that you can put in for SFP/DAS to go along with herdnumber.. if not leave as is and talk nice to your uncle;)

Bodacious

vermin99 wrote: »

Not sure of gaining much but you might get some class of payment depending on your setup ,you need to have your own crush and a shed for the herd number aswell

never saw it written anywhere that you require a shed ... you see you could have winterage and or be summer grazers.. I could be wrong though,,.. stockproof perimeter fences and a crush definitely

Toplink

Bodacious wrote: »

never saw it written anywhere that you require a shed ... you see you could have winterage and or be summer grazers.. I could be wrong though,,.. stockproof perimeter fences and a crush definitely

I have encountered a dept official who insists on me having a shed before i'll get a herd number.

I 'believe' that some for of a shed can be constructed over the crush which would suffice. Can anyone confirm.

The requirement is based on having a place to house a sick animal if required and does make sense.

I plan on building a shed under TAMS2 but that grant probably wont come quick enough for me to get the herd number.

Oldtree

when I went for a herd number, a shed for a sick animal was a prerequisite. as was a crush and all the troughs put out into the field away from the hedgerows and up at 2 foot (to avoid the badgers) but I'm not sure how if farming sheep as well that they would get up 2 foot. I'm not sure if the 2 can be combined as the crush would then be unusable.

Nekarsulm

Oldtree wrote: »

up at 2 foot (to avoid the badgers) but I'm not sure how if farming sheep as well that they would get up 2 foot. .

Sheep do not get TB! much to the dismay of Dept. & Vets.:(

allbuiz

I wouldn't bother getting separate herd number until ur set up to do. A lot more red tape and no reward. Register with the breed society then when registering embryo calf, if registering online you need to give him a name the society will directly pick it up. Charge u a fee, you then send hair samples and hey presto your in business.

Oldtree

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Sheep do not get TB! much to the dismay of Dept. & Vets.:(

It begs the question: if the trough is up at 2 foot for the cattle, how do the sheep have a drink? Have a trough at ground level with a sign that says "Sheep Only":D

allbuiz

Oldtree wrote: »

It begs the question: if the trough is up at 2 foot for the cattle, how do the sheep have a drink? Have a trough at ground level with a sign that says "Sheep Only":D

I'd say JFC have 1 of them

Oldtree

Had a look and I don't think so, do you think I'm onto a winner here? I'll sent them an email with a drawing.

http://www.jfc.ie/Agri-WaterTroughs.html

allbuiz

Oldtree wrote: »

Had a look and I don't think so, do you think I'm onto a winner here? I'll sent them an email with a drawing.

Ya might b better off with a sign saying No Badgers

Nekarsulm

And a sign for the cattle "NEVER drink out of a puddle"

Oldtree

allbuiz wrote: »

Ya might b better off with a sign saying No Badgers

Great idea I'll put that into the drawing too, as an extra selling point!

allbuiz

Oldtree wrote: »

Great idea I'll put that into the drawing too, as an extra selling point!

Sure ya can omit the sheep only sign with that idea and the one trough will do them all now as the badgers will understand their position.

Neddyusa

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Sheep do not get TB! much to the dismay of Dept. & Vets.:(

Not true unfortunately, has been proven to have passed between sheep and cattle on farms in the North:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1439-0450.2003.00714.x/abstract;jsessionid=9D3C350FF6257E0C67C2750756D98C93.f02t02?deniedAccessCustomisedMessage=&userIsAuthenticated=false

Just another explanation of how concentrating on an eradication scheme in one species only (cattle) is never likely to succeed....when they share fields with other species commonly infected with TB.

Course the Dept and Vets know this, but it suits them to keep the "eradication" scheme (gravy train) going

allbuiz

Neddyusa wrote: »

Not true unfortunately, has been proven to have passed between sheep and cattle on farms in the North:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1439-0450.2003.00714.x/abstract;jsessionid=9D3C350FF6257E0C67C2750756D98C93.f02t02?deniedAccessCustomisedMessage=&userIsAuthenticated=false

Just another explanation of how concentrating on an eradication scheme in one species only (cattle) is never likely to succeed....when they share fields with other species commonly infected with TB.

Course the Dept and Vets know this, but it suits them to keep the "eradication" scheme (gravy train) going

I reckon we need to go on strike like the French. We're far to placid in this country and political leaders and farm representative organisations have all failed us.

Oldtree

allbuiz wrote: »

Sure ya can omit the sheep only sign with that idea and the one trough will do them all now as the badgers will understand their position.

Dam been beaten to that one too