Niall Moyna - The long run: how to prepare for a marathon

nerraw1111

The first place?

asks Dublin City University’s sports scientist Niall Moyna.

On today fm now re article on how to prepare for Monday

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/science/the-long-run-how-to-prepare-for-a-marathon-1.1570602

He also says body wasn't designed to he running for over 5 hours.

emerald007

I heard the "controversial" snippet on the radio this morning

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/science/the-long-run-how-to-prepare-for-a-marathon-1.1570602?page=1

I thought there might be more details to back up his argument in the article.

average_runner

emerald007 wrote: »

I heard the "controversial" snippet on the radio this morning

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/science/the-long-run-how-to-prepare-for-a-marathon-1.1570602?page=1

I thought there might be more details to back up his argument in the article.

He advises to wear headphones on monday!!!!!

Krusty_Clown

Certainly by the 10km mark you should be replacing the fuel you’ve used,” she says. “I like rice-style cake and banana bread.”

PaulieC

I think she was talking about the WMM. A lot of those have a much more interesting fuelling strategy - burgers, chips and fags at the start....

average_runner

PaulieC wrote: »

I think she was talking about the WMM. A lot of those have a much more interesting fuelling strategy - burgers, chips and fags at the start....

Burger and chips hmmmmmmmmmm

Ososlo

What about ultra runners/events???

nerraw1111

MODs probably merge the threads?

<mod> done </mod>

Yeah it was an interesting enough discussion on the radio. I read a lot of evidence that humans are built for running long distances.

He did qualify his remarks by saying he was talking about first time marathon runners.

bucketybuck

nerraw1111 wrote: »

He did qualify his remarks by saying he was talking about first time marathon runners.

Huh? I didn't hear the show so can you explain what he was saying, seems a little illogical that. First time marathon runners should'n't run a marathon?

sconhome

Just what all the first time runners need at this stage. Someone wrecking their heads!! :mad:

ultraman1

Ososlo wrote: »

What about ultra runners/events???

they usually start walkin after 4hrs..

zl1whqvjs75cdy

ultraman1 wrote: »

they usually start walkin after 4hrs..

Lazy ****ers.

Emer911

Certainly by the 10km mark you should be replacing the fuel you’ve used,” she says. “I like rice-style cake and banana bread.”

Right... I'm off to get the ingredients and I'm making banana bread tomorrow.

Well the "experts" say it's okay - just have to figure out how to carry it and where I'll get the mug of tea to go with it

drquirky

I kinda think what he was getting at is that if you are properly trained for a marathon over many weeks it is fine, the "unhealthy" bit is mainly with the 5 hrs plus brigade who show up underprepared and overweight, determined to show friends and family how "heroic" they are by completing a marathon....I'll qualify it by saying a few people in the 5hrs plus group wouldn't fit this description but there is certainly a large enough section of people who have "running a marathon" on their bucket list and don't do anywhere near the amount of work required to finish it in a healthy fashion.

TFBubendorfer

drquirky wrote: »

the "unhealthy" bit is mainly with the 5 hrs plus brigade who show up underprepared and overweight, determined to show friends and family how "heroic" they are by completing a marathon....

Then why would he mention runners needing over 3.5 hours to complete it?

nerraw1111

http://www.todayfm.com/player/listen_back/4/6718/24th_October_2013_-_The_Ray_D'Arcy_Show_Part_1

30 minutes in.

He’s coming at in from the point of view of people running for extended amounts of time and the effects it has on the body rather than a speed point of view. i.e. running for 3 and half hours is better than running for 5 hours.

TFBubendorfer

nerraw1111 wrote: »

He’s coming at in from the point of view of people running for extended amounts of time and the effects it has on the body rather than a speed point of view. i.e. running for 3 and half hours is better than running for 5 hours.

I wonder what he would say about that 24 hrs race I did last year :rolleyes:
Admittedly, I did not run it for health reasons.

Brian Purcell

I'm presuming Niall Moyna is referring to a recent medical study which implied that there might be temporary heart damage from running marathons. Here is a link to an article about this study. It would have been helpful if Mr. Moyna had confirmed what evidence he was basing his opinion on. This study refers to the temporary nature of any damage. There currently seems to be no evidence that marathon running causes long-term damage. It's hardly surprising that running a marathon causes short-term damage but the risks of death or serious injury from a marathon are miniscule. I can't ever remember a person dying during the Dublin Marathon (and running deaths are sometimes the result of an underlying issue). For me the benefits of marathon running (and running in general), better mental and physical health, stronger bones, better balance, improved endurance, far outweigh the small risks involved. The medical article ends with a common sense statement and at no points advises against running a marathon, " Dr. Larose adds that the findings hint that there may be a minimum level of fitness that runners need before running a long race. He says the results of the study show that there is a need for runners to properly prepare before competing in a marathon race." An article (here) give the mortality rate in the London Marathon as 1 in 67,000 (or 1 every 2 million miles). That's a level of risk I'm prepared to live with!