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Would you consider going vegan?

  • 23-10-2013 7:01pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 637 ✭✭✭


    Was in Temple Bar earlier and the Vegan Information Project were there. They had a tent / stall set up and were handing out leaflets. Posters of animals being neglected on factory farms adorned the stall and some trees surrounding it. All of which is fine but some of the girls from the local restaurants, that regularly walk around that area showing off their menus, clearly had their nose out of joint by their very presence.

    Have to say, the Bad Ass burgers we had all just eaten, didn't sit too well in our stomachs as we looked at some of the images. Would say, the posters and leaflets probably did cause some people to bypass some of the local meat laden eateries, heading for vegetarian places instead.

    I'm not sure I could ever give up meat to be honest though. I have intrinsic factor problem myself and have to have regular B12 shots, but even with that aside, I find meat gives me a sense of satiation that fruit and vegetables never do. I try to eat more Free Range products as I of course would prefer if the animals I eat were not raised in poor conditions.

    How does everyone else feel about these groups? Are they harmless enough? Have you ever tried veganism? And if so, how did you get on when you did?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭I am pie


    No, I like cheese and eating animals way too much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 341 ✭✭Hownowcow


    I'd consider it. What do vegans taste like?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    Sorry, but dog tastes too nice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    I have no problem with these groups unless they're trying to force it down your throat.
    But being a Vegan for me would be too hard. I might try it some time but I love my meat too much.

    Really leaving myself open with this post :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,590 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Can't even bite your nails if you're a vegan.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭martinedwards


    nope.

    If God had meant us to be vegan, why do animals taste so good?

    and no more fried egg sammich and a pint of icy cold milk?

    thank you, no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    Are you fookin kidding me!?! :eek:

    If it don't have meat it ain't a proper meal. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,308 ✭✭✭downonthefarm


    would love to give it a go
    where can i sign up


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    No bacon would kill me. And BBQ's without charred mammal flesh?

    No. I'm out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    Do you ever notice how pale vegans are?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,308 ✭✭✭downonthefarm


    but they must have tremendous bowel movements


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I was a vegetarian from the age of 10 til the age of 17 and a half. I gave it up cos the fluffy aminals. I got really really sick from it, fainting regularly, low blood pressure, chronic anaemia - I was crap at being a vegetarian and me mammy bless her was crap at cooking for a vegetarian though she did try. I used to just eat whatever they were having but minus the meat.

    Now I love all the fluffy aminals. I particularly love steak. I will eat steak forever and ever and ever. I like it best when the blood drips out of it. I like it yummiest when the gooey bit of a runny egg mixes up on a plate with the blood of the steak.

    I think I'll give the vegan thing a miss.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭Pumpkinseeds


    I'm a vegetarian, but I couldn't be a vegan, that would be far too harsh for me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    nope, never

    I'm helping the environment by combatting cow flatulence.
    One cow at a time


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    I suppose if the vegan in question was particularly good looking I'd have a go alright.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,981 ✭✭✭ElleEm


    I try to do one vegetarian day a week. I wish I could do it fulltime (for the animals and the environment) but I would just miss meat too much. Even writing this has me thinking about meat, despite having a burger for my dinner a couple of hours ago!

    Being a vegan would be far too restrictive. Fair enough with the obvious things like no eggs or milk, but you couldn't have certain wines, cakes, honey, pasta, etc. Eating out would be just a pain in the hole!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    I could do vegetarian but no cheese? are you mad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    Environmentally speaking, the planet would be better off if we all ate less meat but I don't think a meat-free diet is optimum for health at all to be honest. While processed meat is indeed bad for you, I don't believe that decent red meat, poultry and fish can be construed as harmful. Anecdotally speaking I don't know any athlete that's a vegetarian and when I was training 10+ hours a week I know it would have been impossible to maintain that without animal protein. Many vegetarians I know aren't particularly fit or healthy people at all; I resent this notion that vegetarianism is inherently healthy.

    And veganism? Load of old hippy sh*te that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    I could do vegetarian but no cheese? are you mad.

    Still not quite sure which would be worse, no meat or no cheese.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    FTA69 wrote: »
    I don't believe that decent red meat, poultry and fish can be construed as harmful

    Red meat isn't bad for ya, green meat is bad for ya


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    I had three cousins who were vegetarians , the two girls look very healthy with good skin and hair and all round good general appearance.Their brother died young from an issue with horse chestnuts (conkers) ... well the tree actually .

    He hit it with a golf GTI and six pints in him.


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    mattjack wrote: »

    He hit it with a golf GTI and six pints in him.

    How did he fit a golf GTI in him?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,625 ✭✭✭Sofaspud


    How did he fit a golf GTI in him?

    With great difficulty


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭Hococop


    uHkGY.jpg

    this caught my eye when someone brought up being a vegan before, how much of this is true I don't know but regardless I would not be able for a vegan lifestyle


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,973 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    My food eats their food.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 326 ✭✭Savoir.Faire


    Absolutely not.

    The vegetarian lifestyle doesn't appeal either, but at least they can enjoy a piece of Cashel Blue or a Spanish omelette.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    I don't go to church so I am already one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,180 ✭✭✭hfallada


    I can understand americans being vegans with the massive factory farms over there. But when most Irish farms are tiny and run humanely. The whole "if its from an animal, its cruel " argument is total BS. Most farmers love and care for their animals here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    I don't eat meat but I don't think I could give up eggs and dairy products. I've tried a few substitutes to cows milk, such as soya and rice milk, and they were disgusting. It's possible they might be alright for cooking with but they're horrible poured over cereal.

    Fair play to anyone that has the stamina to stick to a vegan diet though. I've never understood why some people seem to get offended that someone would dare to not eat meat.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Love meat too much to consider it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 326 ✭✭Savoir.Faire


    Now I love all the fluffy aminals. I particularly love steak. I will eat steak forever and ever and ever. I like it best when the blood drips out of it. I like it yummiest when the gooey bit of a runny egg mixes up on a plate with the blood of the steak.

    I think I'll give the vegan thing a miss.

    It's water and myoglobin that ooze out of a nice rare steak. I had an awful time persuading someone that it wasn't blood.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭sok2005


    I get enough stick from people when I tell them I don't eat meat, imagine the rolled eyes and raised eyebrows if I became a vegan. I just couldn't, I love food too much and imo everything's better with dairy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    It's water and myoglobin that ooze out of a nice rare steak. I had an awful time persuading someone that it wasn't blood.


    Mmmmm myoglobin.



    I only eat fish from the animal kingdom and would never give that up. The pescatarian diet with all the goodies produced by animals (eggs, milk and cheese) suits me perfectly. Couldn't live without fish or eggs. The less I eat of land-dwelling animals, the less the idea appeals and kind of turns my stomach.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    How do you know if someone is vegan?


    ...they tell you.







    I eat vegan fairly regularly as I have a good few hippy-dippy friends, but I would not have survived my seven years of vegetarianism without cheese. Now I'm a full on carnivore.


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It's water and myoglobin that ooze out of a nice rare steak. I had an awful time persuading someone that it wasn't blood.

    Yes, I know! Blood sounds better though.

    Mmmmmmmmm blooooooood and gooooey egg.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭sok2005


    Mmmmm myoglobin.



    I only eat fish from the animal kingdom and would never give that up. The pescatarian diet with all the goodies produced by animals (eggs, milk and cheese) suits me perfectly. Couldn't live without fish or eggs. The less I eat of land-dwelling animals, the less the idea appeals and kind of turns my stomach.

    I eat seafood too, my reasoning is if I can catch it and prepare it myself, I can keep it in my diet. It's tricky to find veggie alternatives to fishy nutrition.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,351 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Vegetarianism is deviant behaviour as far as I'm concerned, so there really are no words to describe how horrific the thought of veganism is. A world without bacon is a world not worth living in.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 326 ✭✭Savoir.Faire


    Yes, I know! Blood sounds better though.

    Mmmmmmmmm blooooooood and gooooey egg.

    You always win the contest by asking the chef to include the eyes. Flash fried.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭johnr1


    These saboteurs of our largest industry in this country should be chased out of tourist areas like the temple bar with bullwhips.

    Im actually serious, and I'm not a farmer in any part of the food industry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    I was a veggie for 4 years as all I ate before that was deep fat fryer chips, nuggets, burgers etc.

    I went back on the meat with a 4 in 1 from the Chinese and almost went back to veggie straight away.

    Everyone should be forced to go veggie for 6-12 months as we would have a lot less picky eaters around who I despise the most when it comes to people's eating habits.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭Paramite Pie


    Cathy.C wrote: »
    Posters of animals being neglected on factory farms adorned the stall and some trees surrounding it.

    I try to eat more Free Range products as I of course would prefer if the animals I eat were not raised in poor conditions.

    Those posters are probably from US farms which have terrible conditions for the animals. Most animals in Ireland are raised with decent standards. As long as you buy Irish meat then it's probably as humane as it gets.

    Compare as US farm with an Irish one...

    Looking at the American farm I can understand the opposition even to dairy farming when the cows are crammed in such conditions. However that's not the case here. Our animals are well looked after and most farmers are animal lovers.;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭sok2005


    Those posters are probably from US farms which have terrible conditions for the animals. Most animals in Ireland are raised with decent standards. As long as you buy Irish meat then it's probably as humane as it gets.

    Compare as US farm with an Irish one...

    Looking at the American farm I can understand the opposition even to dairy farming when the cows are crammed in such conditions. However that's not the case here. Our animals are well looked after and most farmers are animal lovers.;)

    Are you saying there are no factory farms in Ireland? That Irish farming is completely 100% non intensive?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    It's water and myoglobin that ooze out of a nice rare steak. I had an awful time persuading someone that it wasn't blood.

    Yeah, yeah, yeah, we've all seen QI :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    Mmmmm myoglobin.



    I only eat fish from the animal kingdom and would never give that up.
    I certainly wouldn't trust fish from any other kingdom.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    If you wanted to make a meaningful gesture for the planet, the best bet would be having no kids. I don't want kids.



    So I can eat blue steak and rare burgers with impunity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,324 ✭✭✭BillyMitchel


    Can't stand them fockers with images of animals and aborted babies hanging around temple bar and the GPO sticking their photos down your throat. Nothing but an nuisance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    I would sooner sooner consider boiling and eating my own family


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭MJ23


    Mostly stoners in smelly jumpers trying to be different.
    I bet some of them eat the odd snack box and a strawberry milkshake on the sly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    MJ23 wrote: »
    Mostly stoners in smelly jumpers trying to be different.

    Look, I already said I wasn't a vegan, leave me out of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    It's water and myoglobin that ooze out of a nice rare steak. I had an awful time persuading someone that it wasn't blood.

    A lot of people think you're joking if you tell them it's not blood. But yeah I love tearing a nice tender rare steak apart with my teeth and sinking them into deep into it. I makes me feel like the king of the jungle after catching a prey in the wild.
    I does cause a few stairs in restaurants however.


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