Best Shmups on the Worse Shmup Console

OwaynOTT

I'm of course referring to the SNES which is sometimes seen as being chronic when it comes to this genre of games.

Surely there are some decent ones on the system.

Super Aleste is one I was playing in the last few days and it seems to be good, well I found it tO be fun anyway and is that not all that matters.

Now I wouldn't be at all knowledgeable in this area at all and now that my Saturn is gone I'm interested in getting some shmup goodness for the SNES.

safetyboy

Super Parodius, Gardius 3

would you consider KiKi KaiKai a shmup, it plays kind of like Jackal.

Myrddin

I'd second Super Aleste, brilliant game. Super SWIV was decent too

Retr0gamer

Axelay is my favourite, superb game.

I'm also partial to some UN Squadron.

R-type 3 is fantastic and makes up for the poor Super R-type.

Rocky and Pocky is great but more of a Mercs style game.

If you like Parodius then Cotton is great.

Biometal is a load of old arse but it does have a spiffing 2Unlimited soundtrack. Worth it for the cheese factor alone.

OwaynOTT

safetyboy wrote: »

Super Parodius, Gardius 3

would you consider KiKi KaiKai a shmup, it plays kind of like Jackal.

I have been on the look out for a decently priced Super Parodius for ages, don't know the other game actually.

Myrddin wrote: »

I'd second Super Aleste, brilliant game. Super SWIV was decent too

Loved Super SWIV back in the day when I got my hand down SNES, definitely got a heck of playing time. It's called something else in the US and is actually hard to get and is a lot more expensive.

Super Aleste seemed to be a bit easy and I'd be crap at these usually.

OwaynOTT

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Axelay is my favourite, superb game.

I'm also partial to some UN Squadron.

R-type 3 is fantastic and makes up for the poor Super R-type.

Rocky and Pocky is great but more of a Mercs style game.

If you like Parodius then Cotton is great.

Biometal is a load of old arse but it does have a spiffing 2Unlimited soundtrack. Worth it for the cheese factor alone.

That's only on the Saturn right? I just sold mine

Retr0gamer

The first Cotton is on SNES.

Myrddin

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Loved Super SWIV back in the day when I got my hand down SNES, definitely got a heck of playing time. It's called something else in the US and is actually hard to get and is a lot more expensive

Space Megaforce afair

o1s1n

Best for me goes;

Saturn
Megadrive
PC Engine
Dreamcast

Kings of consoles when it comes to shmups.

Snes has a couple but overall yeah, fairly dire!

OwaynOTT

Retr0gamer wrote: »

The first Cotton is on SNES.

Did not realise that. Just had a quick look and it's cheap enough as well. Thanks for making me aware of that one Retro.

ghostchant

Pop'n Twinbee is my personal favourite. The more colourful the shooter the better for me, which is why the neon retina-death of bullet-hell shmups these days suits me perfectly.

o1s1n

Damn it! I completely misread the title as 'best shmup consoles and worst shmup consoles' - my above post makes zero sense :pac:

Super R Type is great. Its made even better by the way Retro is pants at it

Myrddin

o1s1n wrote: »

Super R Type is great. Its made even better by the way Retro is pants at it

Is that one hit death & back to the start of the level?

Retr0gamer

There's not enough Axelay love on this thread :mad:

OwaynOTT

What about Starwing? Can that be considered really? Great soundtrack in bits.

Hank Scorpio

Starwing is a rail shooter! Needs to be played at 60hz too, the Pal version is terrible

I've got a decent collection of shmups for the snes but I couldn't tell you if they're any good or not since its one of my least favourite genre, always had time for super aleste/space megaforce though

CiDeRmAn

I have the Parodius collection on the PS, it has both major Parodius releases for the Snes on it and they are pretty brilliant.
I have the original Snes one as well for the console and it's a lovely lovely game.
But there are changes between regions.
Assault Suits Valken, shmuppy bits in there to be sure.
I have a good one here from Vic Tokai called Imperium, bought it off Pyongy, actually it's Japanese so it's called Armored Maneuverer Dion.

OwaynOTT

Aero Fighters/ Sonic Wings is a great little shooter as well. The bloody Swedish lad is awful though, the Jap guy is the way to go.
Bloody power-ups getting me killed the whole time.

edit: Just looked at the prices of Aero Fighters there and well looks like it will be Sonic Wings all the way if I'm buying it. JP box art is way nicer anyhow, wonder if there is much of a difference gameplay wise.

The Last Bandit

Raiden on the Jaguar is definitely the best shump on the worst console..

CiDeRmAn

The Last Bandit wrote: »

Raiden on the Jaguar is definitely the best shump on the worst console..

Only if the CDi doesn't have a decent Shmup.... Which it doesn't, no redeeming features whatsoever...

o1s1n

nuxxx wrote: »

I've got a decent collection of shmups for the snes..since its one of my least favourite genre

I tell you what, if my shmup collection was limited to a collection of Snes shmups, it would certainly be one of my least favourite genres too

CiDeRmAn

o1s1n wrote: »

I tell you what, if my shmup collection was limited to a collection of Snes shmups, it would certainly be one of my least favourite genres too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcYppAs6ZdI

But seriously,
The MD/Genesis trounces so all over the Snes in this regard, in this genre, it's not funny
In fact, I think the Willard says it best...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5Cfhooa1bI

Retr0gamer

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Only if the CDi doesn't have a decent Shmup.... Which it doesn't, no redeeming features whatsoever...

There's Tetsuo Gaiden on the CDi. A game so bad that they pronounce Gaiden wrong on the title screen.

o1s1n

I take it they say Gay-den rather than G-eye-den?

Retr0gamer

o1s1n wrote: »

I take it they say Gay-den rather than G-eye-den?

It's like they never watched The Wizard.

Star Lord

o1s1n wrote: »

I take it they say Gay-den rather than G-eye-den?

I always thought (right up till reading your post!) that it was Gay-den...

Retr0gamer

DamoElDiablo wrote: »

I always thought (right up till reading your post!) that it was Gay-den...

Ur a Gay-den.

trololololololol

Retr0gamer

People can learn so much from this film:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MlGNj9FUhY

o1s1n

I still refuse to say 'R-eye-den' though.

'Ray-den' forever!

Retr0gamer

o1s1n wrote: »

I still refuse to say 'R-eye-den' though.

'Ray-den' forever!

Did Mortal Kombat get that one wrong as well? Sure that series can't even spell combat right.

richymcdermott

Annoys me when people call raiden From mgs 2 ray den

I just want to punch them

o1s1n

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Did Mortal Kombat get that one wrong as well? Sure that series can't even spell combat right.

Was actually talking about the shmup. I do call the Mortal Kombat character 'Ray-den' too though.

richymcdermott wrote: »

Annoys me when people call raiden From mgs 2 ray den

I just want to punch them

This chap on the other hand I call 'R-eye-den'. So I'm even lacking consistency in myself

Andrew76

o1s1n wrote: »

I still refuse to say 'R-eye-den' though.

'Ray-den' forever!

R-eye-den sounds too much like roide or roidin, something you'd hear in The Snapper probably.

richymcdermott wrote: »

Annoys me when people call raiden From mgs 2 ray den

I just want to punch them

Annoys me that that fairy appears in a Google search result before the fabulous Seibu Kaihatsu shmups of the same name.

Star Lord

Andrew76 wrote: »

R-eye-den sounds too much like roide or roidin, something you'd hear in The Snapper probably.

A1 Andrew... A1...

krudler

o1s1n wrote: »

I still refuse to say 'R-eye-den' though.

'Ray-den' forever!

Or 'Ree-yu' instead of 'R-eye-yu"

How were we supposed to know it was wrong? we were kids :pac:

krudler

Andrew76 wrote: »

R-eye-den sounds too much like roide or roidin, something you'd hear in The Snapper probably.

"He said he was a cybernetic ninja on shore leave!"

Axelay is the job, like Parodius too, that was just mental fun and the music was brilliant.

Myrddin

krudler wrote: »

Or 'Ree-yu' instead of 'R-eye-yu"

How were we supposed to know it was wrong? we were kids :pac:

It's actually more like "Ruu" afaik? It'll always be R'eye'u to me though

o1s1n

krudler wrote: »

Or 'Ree-yu' instead of 'R-eye-yu"

How were we supposed to know it was wrong? we were kids :pac:

You were right as a kid! thats how that name is pronounced. I know this from watching Akira in Japanese a billion times - one of the main characters is called 'Ree-yu' (Ryu)

But yeah as Enternow said, less emphasis on the 'ee' (the Japanese dont really elongate vowels like we do)

CiDeRmAn

o1s1n wrote: »

But yeah as Enternow said, less emphasis on the 'ee' (the Japanese dont really elongate vowels like we do)

Enternow no longer exists in this Dojo!