Crossbows law in ireland

Seller159

Hi wondering can someone help me out im wondering about cross bows in ireland are they aloud here and if so can you ship them into ireland if buy of an online website or can i get them here?

Any help would great thanks alot

aaakev

They are classed as a "restricted firearm" and must be licenced by applying to your local Chief Superintendent.....

Seller159

really but how come compound bows and other bows are ok? if i was to order a cross bow would it come into the country do you think?

aaakev

Seller159 wrote: »

really but how come compound bows and other bows are ok? if i was to order a cross bow would it come into the country do you think?

They were apparently included in the legislation without any thought behind it and because no one questioned it they are now restricted. There is a srction on the gun licence application which you can tic if you want to apply for one.

Yeah sure it might come through but then again you could get caught with an unlicenced firearm and find yourself in a world of **** just like if you were caught with a sawn off shotgun or an uzi..... Really worth the hassle when there is a legal way to go about it?? What do ya want it for?

Lardy

You can carry a crossbow loaded, unlike a normal bow. That's the difference.

aaakev

Lardy wrote: »

You can carry a crossbow loaded, unlike a normal bow. That's the difference.

I dont think thats the reason. You can draw a bow just as quick as raise a crossbow.... Like i said, no body was interested in crossbows when the legislation was being written so they were just included because there was no discussion surrounding them

peter bermingham

really are ya going to use one i looked into getting one seen all the hassle with getting one no archery club will let you loose with a crossbow so i just went for the bow and joined a club

aaakev

peter bermingham wrote: »

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And that would be illegal under the firearms act which you yourself seem to know then you go on to tell him how to get around it and break the law?? Good man, seriously well done.....

peter bermingham

Your right sorry have changed it

Seller159

aaakev wrote: »

They were apparently included in the legislation without any thought behind it and because no one questioned it they are now restricted. There is a srction on the gun licence application which you can tic if you want to apply for one.

Yeah sure it might come through but then again you could get caught with an unlicenced firearm and find yourself in a world of **** just like if you were caught with a sawn off shotgun or an uzi..... Really worth the hassle when there is a legal way to go about it?? What do ya want it for?

Oh right well thats pretty crap isnt it? Lol. I want it just for target shooting and stuff like that in my back garden i seen a website out side Ireland that sells them(not america) and they said they would and can ship them here to me so just thought id ask around about it 1st to get some advise on them and if it would get through to me or what would happen?

Iv order full metal gas powerd airsoft shotguns an stuff from other countrys and they came through fine. I no where aloud airsoft here but its just strange that it would come through so easy you know?

Seller159

Lardy wrote: »

You can carry a crossbow loaded, unlike a normal bow. That's the difference.

You cam carry a bow half loaded:) and it be just as fast to shoot a bow than a cross bow?

Witcher

Seller159 wrote: »

i seen a website out side Ireland that sells them(not america) and they said they would and can ship them here to me so just thought id ask around about it 1st to get some advise on them and if it would get through to me or what would happen?

I had Customs spot and seize a stock off a rifle and demand a copy of my licence. A piece of wood couldn't even get through unnoticed.

If Customs seize it, you are fcuked or at least you will be when you're doing time for it. Really not worth it..there's no sympathy from the guards when you're caught with an unlicenced firearm..especially a restricted one which a crossbow is. Mandatory 5 years inside is the sentence upon conviction.

Seller159

Blay wrote: »

I had Customs spot and seize a stock off a rifle and demand a copy of my licence. A piece of wood couldn't even get through unnoticed.

If Customs seize it, you are fcuked or at least you will be when you're doing time for it. Really not worth it..there's no sympathy from the guards when you're caught with an unlicenced firearm..especially a restricted one which a crossbow is. Mandatory 5 years inside is the sentence upon conviction.

Yeah i guess ur right it wouldnt be worth doing incase was caught ill just stil to yhe bows then:) thanks alot for the help man

marinabannon

i was told it's because crossbow have triggers that why u need license .....

Midnight64

Seller159 wrote: »

You cam carry a bow half loaded:) and it be just as fast to shoot a bow than a cross bow?

But it can not go off accidently by catching the trigger. Perhaps that is the difference?

aaakev

Midnight64 wrote: »

But it can not go off accidently by catching the trigger. Perhaps that is the difference?

Thats not it at all. Nobody was concerned with them so they were just left out

marinabannon

i asked this question at the local gun club, guarda there told me it simple the fact it has trigger .............

aaakev

marinabannon wrote: »

i asked this question at the local gun club, guarda there told me it simple the fact it has trigger .............

I would take what ever a garda says about the firearms act with a pretty big pinch of salt.... He had no idea and simply made that up instead of telling you he didnt know.

marinabannon

ok leave this one with u cheers............

renas

Seller159 wrote: »

Oh right well thats pretty crap isnt it? Lol. I want it just for target shooting and stuff like that in my back garden i seen a website out side Ireland that sells them(not america) and they said they would and can ship them here to me so just thought id ask around about it 1st to get some advise on them and if it would get through to me or what would happen?

Iv order full metal gas powerd airsoft shotguns an stuff from other countrys and they came through fine. I no where aloud airsoft here but its just strange that it would come through so easy you know?

Man its nothing to compare with airsoft couse airsoft is legal if its power under the restrictions, crossbow its classified same as normal gun, shotgun,rifle or what ever so if you get caught you can spend some long time in prison, trust me better you go for a compound bow and forget the hassle and im not even recommend such weapon till you are at least 25 or so just to make sure you do understand how to use it safely

aaakev

renas wrote: »

better you go for a compound bow and forget the hassle and im not even recommend such weapon till you are at least 25 or so just to make sure you do understand how to use it safely

25??! I know 16 year olds with their own guns who are safer than some older men iv seen with guns!! A compound bow is not a weapon unless used on another person, its simply a piece of sports equipment

renas

aaakev wrote: »

25??! I know 16 year olds with their own guns who are safer than some older men iv seen with guns!! A compound bow is not a weapon unless used on another person, its simply a piece of sports equipment

Compound bow is not a weapon!??! what are you even talking about i shoot with mine true the car dor clear
, so i can tell you shotgun is not weapon till its used against anybody so no bull**** .. and what are you even talking about 16 years old with own guns !!!?

aaakev

renas wrote: »

Compound bow is not a weapon!??! what are you even talking about i shoot with mine true the car dor clear
, so i can tell you shotgun is not weapon till its used against anybody so no bull**** .. and what are you even talking about 16 years old with own guns !!!?

Your not from around here are you.... Im talkimg about a compound bow not beimg classed as a weapon. They are designed and sold for shooting targets or hunting in other countries NOT as weapons. I can put a baseball bat through a car door, still not a weapon. Unless I use it on someone ...

Exactly what I said, I know 16 year olds who have shotguns and rifles. In ireland you can own a gun at 16.

Boaty

Yes 16 year olds can get their own guns.

renas

Boaty wrote: »

Yes 16 year olds can get their own guns.

No they cant couse you are getting only training license and you cannot cary any guns or ammunition

aaakev

renas wrote: »

No they cant couse you are getting only training license and you cannot cary any guns or ammunition

Na mate Training licence at 14. Own licence at 16 to own, use, carry your own gun.

renas

Baseball through car door man im in wrong place, again 16 years old cant have anything unless they are jumping rabbits against the law you can get full license only at 21 what are you talking about ?

aaakev

Ah buddy im goin asleep, trust me you're wrong. Check out the shooting section for the info and if ya fancy a bit of hunting give me a shout ill gladly take you out. ....

Witcher

You can have a licence at 16, go read the legislation.

IIIAcHmEdIII

renas wrote: »

Baseball through car door man im in wrong place, again 16 years old cant have anything unless they are jumping rabbits against the law you can get full license only at 21 what are you talking about ?

A quick Google : http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Pages/Firearms_and_Ammunition_FAQ

look at point 4.

greysides

Folks, this is the archery forum....................

oldguysrip

I think they were included in legislation at the time because there were loads of scumbags buying them who thought "lets go up to the Phoenix park and kill a deer". Loads of deer were being found with bolts in them around the country. I think that is the reason for the legislation

Witcher

If that was the case compounds etc. would be in the same situation. Crossbows being on the restricted list was an oversight when the Restricted SI was being written, nobody made a fuss about it at the time so it was never altered.

Rifles with folding stocks were on it too until the ISSF lads pointed out that some of their rifles have folding stocks and it was changed.

marksalad1102

Dam i just bought one hand held with target board but when i orderd it i said only if its ok to import it to ireland and no not from USA either its 2 days late if i dont get back within 3yrs 9mts iam in mountjoy lol hope not ps can anyone tell me the laws on a airsoft sniper rifle? not BB GUN have a RAT PROBLEM! Tks guys.

Witcher

Airsoft gun won't kill a rat. Get some traps.

marksalad1102

what about a clean head night vision shot?

Witcher

Night vision shot? Airsoft guns here have to be under 1 joule...that's not lethal for any animal..it wouldn't even penetrate your soft eyeball.

marksalad1102

i here you but if you look at some airsoft shops theres air rifles with lead pellets and 350psf so if i can go trough a can of water or lynx with a little white bb gun iam% sure they takeing the lead pellet out and rifle out of the equ i would never point or try with a 1 j bb but lead rifle that has2 work and a lot cheeper than a stack of rat traps & dont like poison so what you think mate rifle or any ideas?

Witcher

Anything over 1 joule is a firearm and needs a licence. If it's throwing a metal pellet at any respectable velocity you will need a licence to buy or possess it.

marksalad1102

thanks for answering my friend so if i buy a long bow with alo tips may i use that now there selling them in a lot of stores in dublin and around and i know there a lot more deadley than a 1J bb so how can the law bend 1 way but not the other no long bow jokes pls lol

Witcher

You can use a bow for target shooting but not for hunting.

marksalad1102

so if a big rat is in my farm howse or yard can i not kill it ? i think its a bit stupid about crossbows with the trigger things the traps all have triggers and some large bows have tripple the force psi psf ect ect and depending on the arrow tip x4 so ive no idea why there saying yes to one no to the other and head scratching about xyz i think it should be down to the buyer/owner to make sure they look after any outdoor sport item they have in they own its legal to walk around with a cordless heavy duty nail gun so why not the rest?

Witcher

You can kill it with a gun, trap, poison, snare, cat, ferret..just not a bow and arrow.

Crossbows aren't restricted because they have a trigger.

marksalad1102

so pls dont think iam pulling your leg but why crossbows and not long bows and i would pref to be killed with a head shot than tied up to starve poison,d to bleed from inside out or strangeld with a big railway track with spikes hanging round me neck just because i wanted me dinner ie rat bait and as for power gats they would only p**s the fe***r off would it not? so why not an arrow it,s just not fait do you agree?

Witcher

I explained why crossbows are restricted in the third ppst on this page.

marksalad1102

so why has the rod and gun shops only started selling full bows and the likes in the last 12mts that i know of trough my local shop and says the laws have been changed with non sharpend projectiles! hand guns have no stock or nail guns same idea shot a projectile at a sweet 675fps easy and bows up to 500fps &some depending on the bow?

marksalad1102

sfp

Witcher

Compounds and recurves have always been avaialble here. Just becajse you didn't see them doesn't mean they weren't around.

It has nothing to do with stocks or triggers or anything else, they are restricted because of oversight. The government had no real issue with them. They were put on that list with a load of other random stuff, people petitioned to have items taken off the list and they succeeded. Nobody spoke up for crossbows so they're still restricted.

marksalad1102

are you into crossbows your self?

Witcher

No, I'm a shooter.

marksalad1102

on the ball yes 21 not 16 area 51 is a little mrs mallaprops!