what's a load of zero grazed grass worth

cavandown

I have fields that i cannot access with cows but have good grass on them. Was thinking of asking man to cut a load a day with his zero grazer to feed cows. What would be fair charge for this or how would it work if he got load of grass as payment? Think one he has takes load to feed 40 cows for 12 hours. What fair exchange rate? Cows would only tramp grass into ground if able to graze

iverjohnston

probably 2 bales worth in a load if it is feeding forty for twelve hours.

cavandown

On above figures i need two load a day. So do yous think it fair to both of us if he bring home a load of grass every day he do job for me. Or would load for load be fairer. He good friend so money not the most important issue. Grass would be good enough quality aftergrass.

Brown Podzol

cavandown wrote: »

On above figures i need two load a day. So do yous think it fair to both of us if he bring home a load of grass every day he do job for me. Or would load for load be fairer. He good friend so money not the most important issue. Grass would be good enough quality aftergrass.

1 for 2 sounds ok to me. I calculated a couple of years ago that zero grazing added 50% to the cost of the grass. 8 cent/ kg/dm as opposed to 12 at the time.

freedominacup

Brown Podzol wrote: »

1 for 2 sounds ok to me. I calculated a couple of years ago that zero grazing added 50% to the cost of the grass. 8 cent/ kg/dm as opposed to 12 at the time.

How did you work that out? ZG machine in op feeds 40 cows for 12 hours so takes roughly 350-400kgs DM/load. The guy who cuts our silage here charges €120/hr+VAT for his wagon which would be working out at 30cent/kg DM assuming it took an hours work to get the load in or 15cent if you were getting the job done in 1/2 an hour which I find hard to believe. Either way a good bit more than 4 cent per kg.

delaval

freedominacup wrote: »

How did you work that out? ZG machine in op feeds 40 cows for 12 hours so takes roughly 350-400kgs DM/load. The guy who cuts our silage here charges €120/hr+VAT for his wagon which would be working out at 30cent/kg DM assuming it took an hours work to get the load in or 15cent if you were getting the job done in 1/2 an hour which I find hard to believe. Either way a good bit more than 4 cent per kg.

Surely a mistake, less than half that around here. Of course there are a lot of wagons in this area

td5man

Heard €100+vat/acre mentioned round here in the pit.

cavandown

But with silage wagon it has to be mowed separately so it two runs in field and generally speaking more horsepower and investment needed. Primary concern is to get field cleared with minimal damage to ground while getting grass into cows.

jaymla627

delaval wrote: »

Surely a mistake, less than half that around here. Of course there are a lot of wagons in this area

Would say thats on the money our lad works out at 35 an acre would be clearing 3-4 acres an hour on longish draws so its in our around the 120 an hour mark, wouldnt expect a lad to work for much less, any lad doing it for 70 -80 an hour with a decent wagon wont be making a bean.

delaval

jaymla627 wrote: »

Would say thats on the money our lad works out at 35 an acre would be clearing 3-4 acres an hour on longish draws so its in our around the 120 an hour mark, wouldnt expect a lad to work for much less, any lad doing it for 70 -80 an hour with a decent wagon wont be making a bean.

Sorry didn't read properly is stated per hour not per acre. That would be about right.

Should read posts or get glasses!!!

keep going

A buddy got it done for 60 e aload during the "famine"

freedominacup

cavandown wrote: »

But with silage wagon it has to be mowed separately so it two runs in field and generally speaking more horsepower and investment needed. Primary concern is to get field cleared with minimal damage to ground while getting grass into cows.

No that's the price for the wagom mowing is a seperate charge or do it yourself.

cavandown

Sorry, took it up wrong. Thought for moment i been well ripped off round here. Round €110 an acre in pit. Never worked out on per load or per hour basis.

freedominacup

cavandown wrote: »

Sorry, took it up wrong. Thought for moment i been well ripped off round here. Round €110 an acre in pit. Never worked out on per load or per hour basis.

Our first cut which was a heavy cut of arable came bach at less than €75 incl vat/acre plus we mowed ourselves. The overall for 2 cuts will be less than €70/acre. Contractor charges for wagon and loader on an hourly basis, if you want to cut big crops of sh1te it will look expensive but if you're after quality which generally means lighter crops it's great value. You're not subsidising some guy who cuts a crop twice as heavy as yours 2 weeks later than you and is getting the same/acre charge as you:eek:.

quader

i am paying €55 an hour for zero grazeer usually takes 45 min to do the load add up the minutes at end of month and write the check