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Alfa 4C
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20-10-2013 10:06am#1I have my name down for an Alfa 4C... The production version won't be available here for about 12 months... I love this car, but I can't justify the cost of the tyres etc... it's just a step too far for me... I can wait till the end of 2014 and get the new spider instead... or should I just say feckit and bite the bullet. There's one coming to the showroom next month.
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Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!Join Date:Posts: 64848
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What Unkel said........but don't tell anyone as they'll run the riffraff like me out of the place.Where the **** are you living:eek::pac:
Although a lot of cars aren't being bought there is still a lot of people in every part of the country with lots of cash on deposit. Don't get me wrong there are lots of people who have fcek all too. I'm one of them. IIRC we are currently one of the worlds top savers as a proportion of the population.There is a small pocket of Dublin people who are still buying cars like that but they are non-existent in the rest of the country.
I'm willing to bet they own them outright. I spotted a few new RangeRovers the week they were launched and I've seen a number of new F-Types.georgefalls wrote: »That's as maybe, but how many of those cars are owned outright..?0 -
Guy:Incognito wrote: »Opposite a dealer that sells land rovers, porsches and ferrari's .
A new one today. A debadged 132 Porsche Panamera in black. :cool:0 -
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ba_barabus wrote: »Actually fully debadged and blacked out it looked pretty sh!t hot. I'm not normally a fan of them.
Want a Porsche, but need a Merc, but couldn't stand an S-Class - that's the Panamera then. For what it is, it's excellent. But if a Boxster/911/Cayman would work for you, you'd buy that instead.
Back o/t, then the Alfa site quotes " Combined 41.5 mpg (6.8 I/100km). CO2 emissions 157 g/km ". So VRT won't be bananas, and sure shes' on the 'chaeap tax'
Car still won't be cheap though, but at least a greater portion of it will be for the car, as distinct from the taxman. That I could live with.
And you're right about there still being money out there: I saw a guy buying a €32k Harley on Saturday and his only conundrum was .........which colour.
We really need people like that to buy stuff tbh, as otherwise it'll never trickle down to the likes..............well, me !! :pac: Ode To The Motorist
“And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road”
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The 4C does look very nice alright but will Alfa even sell it in this country? The market for that car is tiny and consists mostly of the people ba_baracus is looking at out his window who can afford the high running costs of luxury cars with bigger engines.
But it doesnt have a bigger engine, think lotus elise rather than M3.
Edit: I just had a go at their configurator, in black, with the little spoiler, black multispoke wheels with chrome highlites and red callipers............I think I'm going to have to go away for a 'good hard think' about something 0 -
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Want a Porsche, but need a Merc, but couldn't stand an S-Class - that's the Panamera then. For what it is, it's excellent. But if a Boxster/911/Cayman would work for you, you'd buy that instead.
Back o/t, then the Alfa site quotes " Combined 41.5 mpg (6.8 I/100km). CO2 emissions 157 g/km ". So VRT won't be bananas, and sure shes' on the 'chaeap tax'
Car still won't be cheap though, but at least a greater portion of it will be for the car, as distinct from the taxman. That I could live with.
And you're right about there still being money out there: I saw a guy buying a €32k Harley on Saturday and his only conundrum was .........which colour.
We really need people like that to buy stuff tbh, as otherwise it'll never trickle down to the likes..............well, me !! :pac:Will it be hammered on emmissions/VRT? Under the old cc system it probably would have been quite reasonable as only 1.8l. Good only knows now what it'll be.
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I know it doesn't have a big engine. My point was that people who can spend that kind of money on a 2 door sports car can surely afford something with a bigger engine so why buy the alfa?
Why do you need a bigger engine ?
Better performance is not the preserve of big-engine cars.
So what's the point, then ? We are long past the age of 'bigger is better' in engine terms - even F1 is going to 1600cc cars.
It is likely that a 4C with a bigger engine would be worse than the 1750 to drive, not better. Stick a big 3L V-6 and it would sound fabulous, sure, but the 1750 would probably accelerate quicker, stop quicker and change direction quicker - because of it's weight (lack of) and it's weight distribution.
On a related note, the 4C gets 'over' 200bhp from it's 1750cc. My 2003 TT at 1781cc is 225bhp. Still good............but my TT weighs 1465kg iirc, whilst the Alfa is only 850kg.......
Look at Lotus'......as I think Colin Champion said " just add lightness".Ode To The Motorist
“And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road”
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