Buying a brand new car on benefits?

lukesmom

A neighbour of ours is on job seekers benefit and has been for two years. He cannot find a job. He has a brand new 2013 car worth €30,000 with all it's extras and modifications (his own words). Bought outright. Has a mortgage, wife and three kids. Can't understand how he could afford to buy this.

Before anyone says I'm jealous, I'm not. Just curious as to how he could afford this if he's not worked in two years. My husband has a three day work week and can just about cover the costs of his 2003 car.

Dfmnoc

Drugs

MagicMarker

Is he black? Everyone knows black people get free cars when they're on the dole.

The dole allows you to have some form of savings, so perhaps he used that towards buying his car?

Brussels Sprout

lukesmom wrote: »

Before anyone says I'm jealous, I'm not.

I don't believe you

run_Forrest_run

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

I don't believe you

even I'm jealous

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

He sells his ass for cash in the evenings???

lukesmom

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

I don't believe you

Swear to God I'm not. More power to him for having a fab car.

Tiddlypeeps

Deleted User wrote: »

The dole allows you to have some form of savings, so perhaps he used that towards buying his car?

You really think someone can save €30,000 in 2 years while on the dole

Or were you being facetious? I sometimes miss these things.

darkpagandeath

lukesmom wrote: »

A neighbour of ours is on job seekers benefit and has been for two years. He cannot find a job. He has a brand new 2013 car worth €30,000 with all it's extras and modifications (his own words). Bought outright. Has a mortgage, wife and three kids. Can't understand how he could afford to buy this.

Before anyone says I'm jealous, I'm not. Just curious as to how he could afford this if he's not worked in two years. My husband has a three day work week and can just about cover the costs of his 2003 car.

I don't believe you. my neighbour is an alien would you believe that ?

chopper6

He's either doing nixers or he's selling tablets.

Either way he wants locking up pronto.

Banjo String

Winning streak.

Eight Ball

What an anti dole thread on boards??? Well I never.

Oranage2

Not to turn this into a Dole bashing thread but I know a few relatives on the Dole that can afford 3 foreign holidays and countless weekend trips down the country.

lukesmom

darkpagandeath wrote: »

I don't believe you. my neighbour is an alien would you believe that ?

It's 100% true I have no reason to lie.

K-9

Tiddlypeeps wrote: »

You really think someone can save €30,000 in 2 years while on the dole

Or were you being facetious? I sometimes miss these things.

They wouldn't be on Jobseekers Benefit for 2 years though so the OP is incorrect, plus it doesn't mean they didn't have any savings before they signed on.

Tom_Cruise

Pretty easy to do.

If he lost his job 2 years ago and had say 25k in savings, and saved the other 5k from his dole then he would have enough (25k + 5k =31k)

darkpagandeath

lukesmom wrote: »

It's 100% true I have no reason to lie.

Neither do I but it's still aint true

lukesmom

K-9 wrote: »

They wouldn't be on Jobseekers Benefit for 2 years though so the OP is incorrect.

Job seekers allowance then it's one of the two

Maximus Alexander

lukesmom wrote: »

A neighbour of ours is on job seekers benefit and has been for two years. He cannot find a job. He has a brand new 2013 car worth €30,000 with all it's extras and modifications (his own words). Bought outright. Has a mortgage, wife and three kids. Can't understand how he could afford to buy this.

Before anyone says I'm jealous, I'm not. Just curious as to how he could afford this if he's not worked in two years. My husband has a three day work week and can just about cover the costs of his 2003 car.

He probably bought it on finance and will be paying for it for the next 15 years.

lukesmom

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

He probably bought it on finance and will be paying for it for the next 15 years.

He said he paid it upfront.

Tiddlypeeps

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

He probably bought it on finance and will be paying for it for the next 15 years.

An unemployed person would never be able to put 30k on finance. What do you think this is, 2006? :eek:

Hownowcow

Inheritance? Gift? Win?



*Probably drugs.

op out of interest how do you think he afforded it? you know him better than us

he might have savings, an inheritance, a small lottery win, he sounds like he likes to boast, but probably wouldn't admit to an inheritance or a lottery win, some people like to project an image of success based on their own ability rather than through good fortune

Tiddlypeeps

Tiddlypeeps wrote: »

You really think someone can save €30,000 in 2 years while on the dole

Or were you being facetious? I sometimes miss these things.

Read the first part of my sentence. The dole allows for some form of savings, so they could have had some set aside before they signed on.

131spanner

He might have sold a kidney for cash. Or bone marrow or something.

Maximus Alexander

lukesmom wrote: »

He said he paid it upfront.

Well then one of three things are true:

• He is lying.
• He had substantial savings before he went on the dole.
• He is gaming the system and making money on the side.

Best way to find out which would probably be to ask him.

donutheadhomer

MagicMarker wrote: »

Is he black? Everyone knows black people get free cars when they're on the dole.

and I've heard the blacker they are the better the car - so I've figured it out - this guy must be in the Minstrels Show on the quiet. Shop him to the welfare for working and signing

Duggy747

Only logical theory is that he's claiming for about 20 people who are already dead.

Maybe he's a serial killer who's addicted to the dole.

lukesmom

[Deleted User] wrote: »

op out of interest how do you think he afforded it? you know him better than us

he might have savings, an inheritance, a small lottery win, he sounds like he likes to boast, but probably wouldn't admit to an inheritance or a lottery win, some people like to project an image of success based on their own ability rather than through good fortune

I honestly don't know. I do think he likes to boast. As far as I'm aware the dole wouldn't allow for €30,000 savings though I think. €10,000 is the cut off.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

chopper6 wrote: »

He's either doing nixers or he's selling tablets.

Either way he wants locking up pronto.

Tablets that help you connect to the internet or tablets that help you connect to the infinite wholeness of the universe???

0ph0rce0

Savings.

Redundancy from last job.

Either way who gives a ****....

donutheadhomer

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

He sells his ass for cash in the evenings???

is it that guy off the RTE show last night who rubs himself up on camera for other lads?

Specialun

maybe he whores out his wife.....if so can you pm me.

UCDVet

My first guess is that he is lying. People do that a lot these days.

larchielads

Tom_Cruise wrote: »

Pretty easy to do.

If he lost his job 2 years ago and had say 25k in savings, and saved the other 5k from his dole then he would have enough (25k + 5k =31k)

hey Tom your maths arent quite right there:pac:

Devi

lukesmom wrote: »

A neighbour of ours is on job seekers benefit and has been for two years. He cannot find a job. He has a brand new 2013 car worth €30,000 with all it's extras and modifications (his own words). Bought outright. Has a mortgage, wife and three kids. Can't understand how he could afford to buy this.

Before anyone says I'm jealous, I'm not. Just curious as to how he could afford this if he's not worked in two years. My husband has a three day work week and can just about cover the costs of his 2003 car.

Savings before being let go, redundancy payments, inheritance, all three, could be loads of reasons.

Ush1

There is a number of ways but why do you care?

lukesmom

He has a mortgage about 15 years left on it he said. He said he'd never buy a second hand car because 'you'd never know what could be wrong with it'. That's fair enough but surely you'd settle for an older car to pay your mortgage without getting assistance. Maybe I'm missing something but I find it bizzare. Two foreign holidays since the start of the year too.

Cee-Jay-Cee

I'm sure revenue would be interested to hear about his ability to blow €30k while on the dole. Inform them via the confidential information function on their website. .

crockholm

Strange that the chap would want to draw suspicion down on him like that.

Tiddlypeeps

Deleted User wrote: »

Read the first part of my sentence. The dole allows for some form of savings, so they could have had some set aside before they signed on.

Huh, I knew you could have a bit in the bank and still pass the means test but I just did check on citizens information to see how much. I always assumed it was at most €5,000 but I was way off. You can have €20,000 in the bank and still get full benefits. If you have €50,000 your dole will be cut roughly in half. To lose all €188 a week you would need to have just under €80,000.

That is totally mental. I totally get that Jobseekers benefit isn't means tested, but for jobseekers allowance I find that shocking.

donutheadhomer

UCDVet wrote: »

My first guess is that he is lying. People do that a lot these days.

A garda I know told me they once arrested a bloke for stealing number plates off a new car to put on his own older car to make it look new

lahalane

However they got the money is a mystery to me but it's not a very smart move to buy a 30 grand car while you are receiving benefits. If you acquired the money legally then surely saving it would have been smarter. If it was illegal then you'd just be making it easier for yourself to be found out.

dmc17

He could have a lot of money in the bank. If he was working before then he was contributing to the system and therefore if he loses his job he is entitled to support. Just because you lose your job, you don't automatically become poor.

lukesmom

Ush1 wrote: »

There is a number of ways but why do you care?

Because my husband works his arse off and we just about scrape by so I would hate to think our neighbour is scamming the state. It would annoy me of course, who wouldn't be annoyed?

chopper6

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Tablets that help you connect to the internet or tablets that help you connect to the infinite wholeness of the universe???

Bennies,zimmos,roche,yellies,bluies,sleepers etc.
Or he could be selling the tablets that allow you to connect to the internet instead.

This case gets moe disturbing by the minute.

jimgoose

lukesmom wrote: »

He has a mortgage about 15 years left on it he said. He said he'd never buy a second hand car because 'you'd never know what could be wrong with it'. That's fair enough but surely you'd settle for an older car to pay your mortgage without getting assistance. Maybe I'm missing something but I find it bizzare. Two foreign holidays since the start of the year too.

Heh - yeah, I see a lot of new and nearly new cars around the place in driveways where there's no-one working for generations at this stage. All on the Bowmaker, of course, but it strikes me as a little strange that one is allowed to enter into finance worth tens of thousands while on the scratcher. Oh well. Personally I could fill the yard with new cars, but I wouldn't have a new car in my furken way!

dilallio

lukesmom wrote: »

A neighbour of ours is on job seekers benefit and has been for two years.

Do you mean Job Seekers Allowance?
Job Seekers Benefit only lasts for a maximum of 1 year

Tzardine

MagicMarker wrote: »

Is he black? Everyone knows black people get free cars when they're on the dole.

Ha Ha. There is a Nigerian family that live on my Mam's road. (Working class area D 15 ) They have a 131 Audi A7 and a 132 Q7. My mam thinks they got them off welfare.

/facepalm

donutheadhomer

dilallio wrote: »

Do you mean Job Seekers Allowance?
Job Seekers Benefit only lasts for a maximum of 1 year

9 months now istnt it