Iranian man to be hanged twice

dxhound2005

He must have some neck on him.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24563453

KTRIC

Isn't the sentence "hung from the neck until dead" ? They failed the first time so sentence wasn't carried out.

My name is URL

I'd say he's cursing his daughters for alerting authorities that he was still alive in the morgue!

Banjo String

I can knot believe this story.

Crazy Iranians.

Timmyctc

KTRIC wrote: »

Isn't the sentence "hung from the neck until dead" ? They failed the first time so sentence wasn't carried out.

Thats in England and America as far as I'm aware. Sentencing is likely worded different in Iran. It'd be in a different language for a start :pac:

myshirt

Drop wasn't long enough.

They need to recalculate, and place the knot correctly. And to think, these guys are supposed to be an authority on the procedure.

Tut.

PizzamanIRL

Why did the family say anything? Just fake a funeral and then he's free.

Also, it's kind of weird being in hospital being treated only to be sent out and hanged.

''OK Mr. Alireza, you're on the road to recovery. You'll be ready to be hanged soon''

Nodin

myshirt wrote: »

Drop wasn't long enough.

They need to recalculate, and place the knot correctly. And to think, these guys are supposed to be an authority on the procedure.

Tut.

...they do it a different way. They jerk them up as opposed to drop them.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Utter and absolute savagery from the Iranians, but sadly not in the least bit surprising either.

My name is URL

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

Why did the family say anything? Just fake a funeral and then he's free.

Also, it's kind of weird being in hospital being treated only to be sent out and hanged.

''OK Mr. Alireza, you're on the road to recovery. You'll be ready to be hanged soon''

The same thing happens in the US. A doctor needs to confirm that inmates are 'fit' prior to execution. There's been many examples of doctors and nurses working frantically to help convicts back to health so that they can be immediately executed.

The whole system of capital punishment is just chock-full of ironies.

_Redzer_

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

Why did the family say anything? Just fake a funeral and then he's free.

Also, it's kind of weird being in hospital being treated only to be sent out and hanged.

''OK Mr. Alireza, you're on the road to recovery. You'll be ready to be hanged soon''

I know it's the right term, but hanged always sounds wrong to me. I just say hung, even though it's wrong, it sounds right.

Surveyor11

If it was me being treated I'd make sure that thermometer is somewhere nice and hot every time they come around to check. And maybe keep the neck brace on for as long as possible.

FreshKnickers

I think it's 'hanged' for people and 'hung' for paintings.

feargale

_Redzer_ wrote: »

I know it's the right term, but hanged always sounds wrong to me. I just say hung, even though it's wrong, it sounds right.

Conventionally it's hanged for humans, hung for beef.

scrap_man

feargale wrote: »

Conventionally it's hanged for humans, hung for beef.

Its definitely hung for humans, I've been called well hung enough times to be sure.

brimal

Nodin wrote: »

...they do it a different way. They jerk them up as opposed to drop them.

Suspension hanging is what it's called. A far worse way to be hanged (if possible) compared to the 'usual' method used by other countries.

Suspension, like the short drop, causes death by using the weight of the body to tighten the trachea with the noose. Prisoners are often reported to have little or no struggle before they go limp, because their jugular vein and carotid arteries are blocked and blood flow to the brain is reduced. The person slowly dies of strangulation, which typically takes between ten and twenty minutes, resulting in a considerably more protracted, grisly and painful death as compared to the standard or long drop hanging.

Medieval, barbaric practice.

ScumLord

This sounds like the plot of a spaghetti western. Hang em' twice.

Howard Juneau

ScumLord wrote: »

This sounds like the plot of a spaghetti western. Hang em' twice.

It's called a "Kerry hanging" they want to be sure, to be sure!

Artful_Badger

I found this bit quite funny.

He is now being nursed to recovery in preparation for his repeat execution.

Voltex

Courtesy of the lads that literally impose "an eye for an eye".
They surgically blinded a lad who was convicted of actin the mick by throwing a jar of acid that accidentally splashed into another fellas eye.

biko

FreshKnickers wrote: »

I think it's 'hanged' for people and 'hung' for paintings.

No-one ever said said "That biko is one hanged guy", they all said "That biko is one hung guy"..

Muise...

Artful_Badger wrote: »

I found this bit quite funny.

gallows humour at its best.

2 stroke

My first thought was to support the campaign for his release, but then I saw that he was a drug smuggler. How do I send him a get well soon card?

Call Me Jimmy

That really does suck a LOT of balls for him!

My sympathies!

Frank Lee Midere

brimal wrote: »

Suspension hanging is what it's called. A far worse way to be hanged (if possible) compared to the 'usual' method used by other countries.



Medieval, barbaric practice.

People give medieval times too much stick. Hanging drawing and quartering - which is a lot worse than this - survived until the early 19th century. To general applause.

(Drawing meant eviseration while alive)

hfallada

It doesnt mention in the BBC article he was caught with 1kg of crystal meth. If he was caught with that in most Asian countries he would be executed too. If execution stops people from trafficking drugs, why is it so bad? I imagine the prisons are horrible for their anyway. Heroin has killed thousands in Ireland and will kill a few more thousand. Handing out 25 year sentences doesnt stop people trafficking drugs, but execution might.

Gummy Panda

hfallada wrote: »

It doesnt mention in the BBC article he was caught with 1kg of crystal meth. If he was caught with that in most Asian countries he would be executed too. If execution stops people from trafficking drugs, why is it so bad? I imagine the prisons are horrible for their anyway. Heroin has killed thousands in Ireland and will kill a few more thousand. Handing out 25 year sentences doesnt stop people trafficking drugs, but execution might.

It won't. If there is money to be made, there is always people willing to take the risk

crockholm

biko wrote: »

No-one ever said said "That biko is one hanged guy", they all said "That biko is one hung guy"..

Nope.......They said "That biko is one hungry guy".It was 3 am and you were eating a kebab and a snack box.

LostBoy101

Some neck on him indeed!

Sheldons Brain

This is farsical.

FTA69

hfallada wrote: »

It doesnt mention in the BBC article he was caught with 1kg of crystal meth. If he was caught with that in most Asian countries he would be executed too. If execution stops people from trafficking drugs, why is it so bad? I imagine the prisons are horrible for their anyway. Heroin has killed thousands in Ireland and will kill a few more thousand. Handing out 25 year sentences doesnt stop people trafficking drugs, but execution might.

Like the way the death penalty for murder in the USA has resulted in a really small murder rate? Oh wait...

People take drugs because they want to get off their face for whatever reason, it is the demand that creates the supply, not the other way around. The punishment for drug dealing in South East Asia is also draconian, but yet drug use of all varieties out there is rife.

Wibbs

Maybe they're worried that after he "died" he didn't report back about many virgins of the firepits of hell. That wouldn't do.

Still talk about fcuking barbaric. They've already hanged him, it's their fault he didn't die, you'd think even the smallest mote of ethics and humanity would suggest they let him go. Oh wait it's Iran. Not just them either. As others have noted the US among others will strive to make people healthy enough to be executed. Madness.


Hey don't get me wrong, I'd be up for killing with extreme prejudice and by my own hand someone who tried to do me or mine grievous harm, but only in hot blood, at that moment when it was real. That's understandable, even natural, but a year later after a trial or like in the US model 20 years later and well after my blood has cooled? Eh no.

end of the road

2 stroke wrote: »

My first thought was to support the campaign for his release, but then I saw that he was a drug smuggler. How do I send him a get well soon card?

so you don't take any recreational drug then? alcohol? or are you the usual "anti-drugs" hypocrit?

FreshKnickers

Mmm, I dunno, Wibbs. If someone killed your nearest and/or dearest that person would still be dead in 20 years time* so you might still want their killers blood 20 years on.


*unless, in rare cases, that person was hanged in Iran, then they might not be.

Funkfield

My name is URL wrote: »

The same thing happens in the US. A doctor needs to confirm that inmates are 'fit' prior to execution. There's been many examples of doctors and nurses working frantically to help convicts back to health so that they can be immediately executed.

The whole system of capital punishment is just chock-full of ironies.

Or iron-full of chockies.





....think about it.

end of the road

hfallada wrote: »

If execution stops people from trafficking drugs, why is it so bad?

1. nobody has the right to take anothers life specially for smuggling recreational drugs that theirs a demand for and that governments would rather leave to the criminal trade rather then legalise.
2. it doesn't work, its a failure, it will and has never been a deterrent

hfallada wrote: »

Heroin has killed thousands in Ireland and will kill a few more thousand.

well they knew what they were getting themselves into and still they took it anyway didn't they. i will except back when heroin came first people didn't know the dangers but the dangers have been known for 30 years at least and still people take it, specially these days theirs no excuse not to know the dangers and still people take it.

hfallada wrote: »

Handing out 25 year sentences doesnt stop people trafficking drugs

it isn't supposed to, people just delude themselves that prison is used to deterr others, its not its job to do that, its only designed to punish those sent there.

hfallada wrote: »

execution might.

wrong, delusianel, evidence world wide says it doesn't work, never has worked, and never will.

ScumLord

Wibbs wrote: »

Still talk about fcuking barbaric. They've already hanged him, it's their fault he didn't die, you'd think even the smallest mote of ethics and humanity would suggest they let him go.

I suppose it depends on the wording of his sentence. If it said he's to be hanged until dead then they have legal recourse to give it another go. Otherwise he's getting off his sentence.

It would be like getting 10 years in a maximum security jail but the jailers accidentally putting you into minimum security and on realisation of their mistake the authorities deciding to let the convict go instead of moving him to the correct jail. I'm not saying it's right to hang him or anything but legally speaking he hasn't served his sentence.


To be fair to Iran they have a horrible heroin problem, a lot of the world's heroin passes through their country and they have a heroin epidemic with over 1 million addicts in the country. They have started a rehabilitation program for addicts that gets them clean and back into work and it's supposedly one of the worlds better programs. They used to kill the addicts too but it was having no effect. Clearly they still reserve the harshest punishments for the traffickers.

bennyl10

scrap_man wrote: »

Its definitely hung for humans, I've been called well hung enough times to be sure.

maybe they were complimenting the skill at which you hang your pictures.

Howard Juneau

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2013/10/23/Official-Iran-wont-try-again-to-execute-man-who-survived-hanging/UPI-23811382534139/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

urabell

Looks like the cradle of civilisation hasn't moved forward a whole lot since then

wp_rathead

Wibbs wrote: »

Still talk about fcuking barbaric. They've already hanged him, it's their fault he didn't die, you'd think even the smallest mote of ethics and humanity would suggest they let him go. Oh wait it's Iran. Not just them either. As others have noted the US among others will strive to make people healthy enough to be executed. Madness.

don't think they gonna use the Ethical Card when they are already holding a Hanging Card