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Hotel

  • 13-10-2013 6:53pm
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    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 81,083 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Hi

    I hope its ok to post this here.

    Am I right in thinking that if your staying in a hotel and your room is broken into and most of your stuff is stolen,are the hotel not liable as long as they have a sign up saying

    "the hotel does not accept any responsibility for the loss,theft or damage of any items belonging to the guest"


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭miller50841


    Even if there is no sign it probably is in the small print which once you step in and accept by taking a room then they are covered unless proven they were responsible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Bepolite


    Entire lectures dedicated to this. Lectures I didn't go to. Google Exclusion clauses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭Rascasse


    By what means was the room broken in to?

    I had stuff stolen from a room after the night porter gave my key to a thief while we were out. They eventually paid up after trying to fob me off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,127 ✭✭✭✭kerry4sam


    Hi

    I hope its ok to post this here.

    Am I right in thinking that if your staying in a hotel and your room is broken into and most of your stuff is stolen,are the hotel not liable as long as they have a sign up saying

    "the hotel does not accept any responsibility for the loss,theft or damage of any items belonging to the guest"

    Is their proof that the items were in fact 'stolen' from the room? Have you cctv footage? Has their been a card-reading done on the lock for the room showing others gained access into the room, other than the 'official' card holders?

    What evidence is their to show items were 'stolen' from the hotel guest-room?

    Thanks,
    kerry4sam


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Bepolite


    OP posts in accordance with forum rules. People reply; seemingly trying to tempt in him into incurring mod wrath :D

    Also bear in mind jurisdictional issues.


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 81,083 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    Thanks for all the replies.

    It's a past exam question,I'm not sure how to approach it. A woman was staying in a hotel and her room was broken into and her stuff stolen and there was a sign in the room stating that the hotel does not accept any responsibility for item stolen etc.

    The question is

    Assess whether the hotel can rely on this exclusion clause to avoid liability for the womans claim?

    I'm currently studying accountancy but law and ethics is part of the course and this is my first time studying it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Bepolite


    IIRC the hotel must draw the customer's attention to the sign or clause. Lord Denning red ink etc etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭I love angels


    Hi,
    This case might help you - Olley V.Marlborough Court (1949):
    " The plaintiff and her husband booked in at the defendants hotel and paid for a room in advance. When they reached their bedroom they saw a notice on the wall by which the hotel disclaimed liability for articles lost or stolen unless they were handed to the management for safe keeping. The plaintiff left furs in the room, locked the door and handed in the key at the reception desk. The key was taken by a thief and the plaintiffs furs were stolen.
    Held: The disclaimer of liability was too late, since the contract was completed at the reception desk when the room was booked and paid for. The hotel, therefore, could not rely on the notice disclaiming reliability".

    Book: Essentials of Irish Business Law - Aine Keenan

    :) Hope this helps


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 81,083 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    Hi,
    This case might help you - Olley V.Marlborough Court (1949):
    " The plaintiff and her husband booked in at the defendants hotel and paid for a room in advance. When they reached their bedroom they saw a notice on the wall by which the hotel disclaimed liability for articles lost or stolen unless they were handed to the management for safe keeping. The plaintiff left furs in the room, locked the door and handed in the key at the reception desk. The key was taken by a thief and the plaintiffs furs were stolen.
    Held: The disclaimer of liability was too late, since the contract was completed at the reception desk when the room was booked and paid for. The hotel, therefore, could not rely on the notice disclaiming reliability".

    Book: Essentials of Irish Business Law - Aine Keenan

    :) Hope this helps

    Thanks for that :)


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 81,083 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    I got this question back today and scored 9.5/10 \o/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭dats_right


    The examiner probably chose a bad example to ask a general question on exclusion clauses because the Hotel Proprietors Act 1963 would also have an application here and that piece of legislation is beyond the scope of most undergraduate contract law courses.


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