British & Irish Lions video: Lions Raw. Tonight 10 Oct Sky Sport 2. 10pm

jm08

Might be of interest!

Lions Raw Thu 22:00. SS2.
Behind the scenes of the 2013 British & Irish Lions tour of Australia, featuring interviews, highlights and access-all-areas footage.

skydish79

short clips

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwElZItT67U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NYKKC_mlvo watch zebo dig himself a hole

Quint2010

Excellent so far.

awec

Those pad things they are training with are class! :pac:

Quint2010

Not seen one shot of O'Driscoll so far??

Cool_CM

Heaslip's dressing room voice isn't exactly one that would cause you to march over a cliff!

awec

Did they cut the bit where Zebo phones Penney?

awec

Don't offer streams in threads

Cool_CM

awec wrote: »

Did they cut the bit where Zebo phones Penney?

The DVD is 203 mins running time on 2 disks according to amazon, this one is only an hour long and probably part one of a 2 parter. They've probably also edited it for tv so that people will go out an buy it!

awec

Ack crap. If I knew this was a cut down version that ended after the first test I'd have waited for the DVD.

.ak

Thought it was interesting, interesting insight to the players and coaches. Have to say tho, the snippets of some of the coaching didn't exactly fill me with inspiration. The bit with Geech showed how he's in a total different league than those guys. Farrell and Roundtree came across as decent forward coaches, but Howley didn't come across as a coach with tactical insight and Gatland seemed more like a director of rugby than a coach. In short, the coaches acted like how the team played - blunt but very direct. Interesting all the same.

Cool_CM

Yeah, the facebook page just confirmed that it was a taster and the rest is on the DVD, which is released on the 28th.
Makes marketing sense.
Bästards.

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience

Much like the tour I thought that was ****e. Hopefully the full DVD will have less of the melodrama and more of the players themselves

Hagz

It was interesting to get some insight into the voices in the locker-room. The part where O'Connell speaks, you can see everyone just shut up and glare at him in awe . Have to say, Heaslip is not the voice I'd want to hear in the locker-room. I'd imagine he's a guy who roars and screams without any real substance. But watching Warburton was the most interesting part and would have been enough to make me go out and buy the dvd. He looked like a rabid animal when he was rallying the lads.

rrpc

.ak wrote: »

Thought it was interesting, interesting insight to the players and coaches. Have to say tho, the snippets of some of the coaching didn't exactly fill me with inspiration. The bit with Geech showed how he's in a total different league than those guys. Farrell and Roundtree came across as decent forward coaches, but Howley didn't come across as a coach with tactical insight and Gatland seemed more like a director of rugby than a coach. In short, the coaches acted like how the team played - blunt but very direct. Interesting all the same.

Yep, "grubber the ball through and turn them, might get a lucky bounce". FFS Gatland, is that all you've got?

There was very little humour in it either, just seemed to plod along.

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience

rrpc wrote: »

Yep, "grubber the ball through and turn them, might get a lucky bounce". FFS Gatland, is that all you've got?

There was very little humour in it either, just seemed to plod along.

said a lot that snippet

bilston

Hagz wrote: »

It was interesting to get some insight into the voices in the locker-room. The part where O'Connell speaks, you can see everyone just shut up and glare at him in awe . Have to say, Heaslip is not the voice I'd want to hear in the locker-room. I'd imagine he's a guy who roars and screams without any real substance. But watching Warburton was the most interesting part and would have been enough to make me go out and buy the dvd. He looked like a rabid animal when he was rallying the lads.

It was interesting listening to POC after the Barbarians match saying that the youngest player on the team, Owen Farrell, was the one driving them on and that the senior players needed to do more. You then see Farrell trying his best to hold back a wee smile.

The reason I bring that up is because if you remember back Farrell was s**** in that match and yet from then on he started playing with a lot more confidence and actually had a decent tour. It was piece of great leadership by POC, I'm not saying that's why Farrell turned the corner as I'm sure a lot more went on but it's little things like that which can make all the difference.

There's one reason anyway as to why POC absolutely HAS to be the man to lead the Schmidt revolution for Ireland.

.ak

Hagz wrote: »

It was interesting to get some insight into the voices in the locker-room. The part where O'Connell speaks, you can see everyone just shut up and glare at him in awe . Have to say, Heaslip is not the voice I'd want to hear in the locker-room. I'd imagine he's a guy who roars and screams without any real substance. But watching Warburton was the most interesting part and would have been enough to make me go out and buy the dvd. He looked like a rabid animal when he was rallying the lads.

The hair-raising speeches can be great coming from a captain, but for me the violent-esque cliches don't do it. I much rather a captain who's intelligent and says some clever things that make you think about the game, makes you switch on. I'd imagine Heaslip is the latter.

Hippo

Yeh the endless effing and blinding in a huddle just before a game has got to be limited in its effect eventually - Oisin McConville and Shane Horgan were making that point on Second Captains the other week. Seemed to be a fair bit of that going on in the last night's prog, as UMSE said, as uninspiring as the tour itself.

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience

dare I say the selection scene seemed kind of staged too

bilston

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

dare I say the selection scene seemed kind of staged too

It had to be. I'd like to think they put a bit more thought into it! I know it was only clips but Rowntree just seemed to be reaming off every English player he could think of.

Edit - Also I wonder in the DVD whether there is anything to do with BOD getting dropped. I'd almost buy the DVD just to see that selection meeting.

Buer

Hippo wrote: »

Yeh the endless effing and blinding in a huddle just before a game has got to be limited in its effect eventually - Oisin McConville and Shane Horgan were making that point on Second Captains the other week. Seemed to be a fair bit of that going on in the last night's prog, as UMSE said, as uninspiring as the tour itself.

Indeed. I believe this discussion has come up before on here. These are elite athletes. They have played high level competition since their teenage years and have been exposed to top coaches and multiple captains all along the way. They've listened to hundreds of motivational speeches. The bluster has a very limited effect after a while.

What POC has is the bluster but also the ability to speak intelligently and analytically. Combine it with the fact he's going to put his body on the line for you 100% when you step out there and he's the ideal captain.

razorblunt

.ak wrote: »

The hair-raising speeches can be great coming from a captain, but for me the violent-esque cliches don't do it. I much rather a captain who's intelligent and says some clever things that make you think about the game, makes you switch on. I'd imagine Heaslip is the latter.

Yes, true to that end, I felt Parling spoke very well when he had too.
I seriously think I have a bit of a man crush on him, built more like a club second row, yet here he is playing for the Lions.
People are overly harsh on Heaslip (Im one!) but BOD's speaking voice isn't exactly hair raising either. Sometimes the calm and methodical approach is just what's needed.

Hagz

I think people are overly-harsh on Heaslip when they talk about not wearing shoes or wearing headphones etc. But when it comes to the way the guy talks in the dressing room, it's far removed from being harsh. People react differently to different personalities and if some people think that they would prefer a speaker like Heaslip then that's fair enough. Personally, Heaslip just isn't the kind of captain that would raise my hairs, more like make me cringe.

My point about Warburton had nothing to do really with effing and blinding, so I'm not sure where that point has arisen from, but I think if people are saying there's no longer a need for violent-esque speeches then I disagree. My mind takes me to the Eddie O'Sullivan speech before the 07 England game. That certainly raised the hair on the back of my neck.

.ak

Hagz wrote: »

I think people are overly-harsh on Heaslip when they talk about not wearing shoes or wearing headphones etc. But when it comes to the way the guy talks in the dressing room, it's far removed from being harsh. People react differently to different personalities and if some people think that they would prefer a speaker like Heaslip then that's fair enough. Personally, Heaslip just isn't the kind of captain that would raise my hairs, more like make me cringe.

My point about Warburton had nothing to do really with effing and blinding, so I'm not sure where that point has arisen from, but I think if people are saying there's no longer a need for violent-esque speeches then I disagree. My mind takes me to the Eddie O'Sullivan speech before the 07 England game. That certainly raised the hair on the back of my neck.

I'm not saying there's no longer a need for it, just saying as a player I'd prefer my captain to say something that's tangible and has some meaning to the game I'm about to play.

Hagz

.ak wrote: »

I'm not saying there's no longer a need for it, just saying as a player I'd prefer my captain to say something that's tangible and has some meaning to the game I'm about to play.

And do you think Heaslip is the someone who does that (obviously based of limited video clips of him in the locker-room, and just general observation of his personality)?

.ak

Hagz wrote: »

And do you think Heaslip is the someone who does that (obviously based of limited video clips of him in the locker-room, and just general observation of his personality)?

Nah I laughed my ass off at what I saw on the lions doc teaser. But from anything else I've seen he's quite disconnected and that I'd say allows him to say how it is; how do we speak to the ref, what can we get away with, who should we be targeting behind the gain line etc. that's the stuff I like to hear from my captain, and based on the few times I've met heaslip I'd imagine that's how he operates.

Presumably he's not a Leinster and Irish captain for his big shouty dressing room talks, as they would be cringe alright, but there's no smoke without fire - he wouldn't be constantly picked as captain if he wasn't doing something like what I described above.

Although I'll leave it with this caveat - I have no idea what kind of captain he is. I've never played with him nor am I privy to his work as a captain - I also think he's only captain when better options aren't available - my post was just to answer your question.

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience

I stopped watching this three quarters of the way through. Did Sexton feature much on camera toward the end? He's fierce reclusive but I'd love to see him speaking to a team

Swiwi.

.ak wrote: »

Nah I laughed my ass off at what I saw on the lions doc teaser. But from anything else I've seen he's quite disconnected and that I'd say allows him to say how it is; how do we speak to the ref, what can we get away with, who should we be targeting behind the gain line etc. that's the stuff I like to hear from my captain, and based on the few times I've met heaslip I'd imagine that's how he operates.

Presumably he's not a Leinster and Irish captain for his big shouty dressing room talks, as they would be cringe alright, but there's no smoke without fire - he wouldn't be constantly picked as captain if he wasn't doing something like what I described above.

Although I'll leave it with this caveat - I have no idea what kind of captain he is. I've never played with him nor am I privy to his work as a captain - I also think he's only captain when better options aren't available - my post was just to answer your question.

I'm like you, I absolutely hated the cliched macho talk when I played at school. I liked to try and play well for the sake of it, not because in 20 years time, some kid would wistfully remember the U16A team taking down another U16A team from the rival college.

However, for multiple reasons I think POC should be named Irish captain, including the fact he's not due to retire soon to the best of my knowledge, so should offer continuity. He's also head & shoulders Ireland's best lock, so no disputing his selection, and he's feared by all teams, certainly in the NH from HEC, 6N etc.

LostArt

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

I stopped watching this three quarters of the way through. Did Sexton feature much on camera toward the end? He's fierce reclusive but I'd love to see him speaking to a team

Don't think he featured at all from what I remember

bilston

LostArt wrote: »

Don't think he featured at all from what I remember

Must have been too busy planning his wedding

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience

Posters on Munsterfans giving out about Heaslip wearing casual clothes at the jersey giveout

No wonder Pat Geraghty never liked that place. Seems a bastion for lunatics and children

.ak

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

Posters on Munsterfans giving out about Heaslip wearing casual clothes at the jersey giveout

No wonder Pat Geraghty never liked that place. Seems a bastion for lunatics and children

LOL, wasn't everyone else though?

LostArt

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

Posters on Munsterfans giving out about Heaslip wearing casual clothes at the jersey giveout

No wonder Pat Geraghty never liked that place. Seems a bastion for lunatics and children

Haven't dropped in there in years, glad to hear nothing has changed.

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience

.ak wrote: »

LOL, wasn't everyone else though?

Yes which good old fishooks12 has pointed out

LostArt wrote: »

Haven't dropped in there in years, glad to hear nothing has changed.

It's a madhouse. I stupidly get involved more often than I should. I really hope people don't think that the posters in there represent the majority of Munsterfans because they really don't

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience

Just noticed that the guy who writes the RedScare blog is one of those chastising Heaslip for wearing a hooded top. Won't be reading that blog again

It was going dangerously militant over the last few weeks anyway

razorblunt

On hindsight I'd like to think Gatland's speeches were edited, against SA on the last video he had some good one's designed to specifically entice fire and brimstone.
The one shown last night was more like a school teacher sending off the Junior Cert lads on the European Trip.

Hurk

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

Just noticed that the guy who writes the RedScare blog is one of those chastising Heaslip for wearing a hooded top. Won't be reading that blog again

It was going dangerously militant over the last few weeks anyway

I was really excited when I found that blog because it's Munster-based and it's regularly updated but over the last few weeks I've found it a bit tedious at times. Their stubborn defensive attitude when it comes to CJ Stander is frustrating. I'll still read it but it's a bit Munsterfans-y alright.

Also, I started reading this forum and the Munsterfans around the same time. Made an account here after about a year but abandoned MF about 6 months in. It's difficult. I really enjoy rugby for the game itself. The provincial stuff can be good craic at times but the conspiracies/ladyboy/pashun stuff, when said without any hint of irony makes me cringe.

This place is great in fairness. Well balanced and a good diversity in posters. I've learned an awful lot from reading this forum.

thomond2006

Hurk wrote: »

I was really excited when I found that blog because it's Munster-based and it's regularly updated but over the last few weeks I've found it a bit tedious at times. Their stubborn defensive attitude when it comes to CJ Stander is frustrating. I'll still read it but it's a bit Munsterfans-y alright.

Also, I started reading this forum and the Munsterfans around the same time. Made an account here after about a year but abandoned MF about 6 months in. It's difficult. I really enjoy rugby for the game itself. The provincial stuff can be good craic at times but the conspiracies/ladyboy/pashun stuff, when said without any hint of irony makes me cringe.

This place is great in fairness. Well balanced and a good diversity in posters. I've learned an awful lot from reading this forum.

You don't like pashun?

irishbucsfan

If Heaslip is in a particularly trolly mood he could write an autobiography and title it: Headphones, Hoodies and Handoffs: How I became a better 8 than Anthony Foley

thomond2006

irishbucsfan wrote: »

If Heaslip is in a particularly trolly mood he could write an autobiography and title it: Headphones, Hoodies and Handoffs: How I became a better 8 than Anthony Foley

"...with a foreword from chief headphone supplier jm08"

Phonehead

Munsterfans is one strange place, they should change the name to Ihateallthingsleinsterfans.com

ssaye2

irishbucsfan wrote: »

If Heaslip is in a particularly trolly mood he could write an autobiography and title it: Headphones, Hoodies and Handoffs: How I became a better 8 than Anthony Foley

The uproar when Heaslip signs for Munster before he retires, wait what do we do what do we do . aaaaaaaaaaaaaghhhhhhhhhhhh


He will be the best ever then.

Phonehead

ssaye2 wrote: »

The uproar when Heaslip signs for Munster before he retires, wait what do we do what do we do . aaaaaaaaaaaaaghhhhhhhhhhhh


He will be the best ever then.

Well they don't sell hoodies or headphones in Munster so he'll have to adjust to their ways. Imagine if they ever catch him using an Ipad.... sweet Lord Jesus they'll march on Dublin:(

jamiedav2011

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'How you like them apples MFans?'

RuggieBear

Folks, This is not the place to criticise other forum sites. Other sites have different ethos (ethoi?) to boards

Swiwi.

RuggieBear wrote: »

Folks, This is not the place to criticise other forum sites. Other sites have different ethos (ethoi?) to boards

ethe or ethea

bloody greek

hopefully i can criticise other languages on this site... :pac:

.ak

Swiwi. wrote: »

ethe or ethea

bloody greek

hopefully i can criticise other languages on this site... :pac:

As long as you do so in English (i.e not Kiwi).

WeleaseWoderick

If anyone is looking to order this, I just noticed that the blu-ray version is selling for cheaper than the dvd version on Amazon. (£15 vs £21.25)

Grimebox

Swiwi. wrote: »

I'm like you, I absolutely hated the cliched macho talk when I played at school. I liked to try and play well for the sake of it, not because in 20 years time, some kid would wistfully remember the U16A team taking down another U16A team from the rival college.

However, for multiple reasons I think POC should be named Irish captain, including the fact he's not due to retire soon to the best of my knowledge, so should offer continuity. He's also head & shoulders Ireland's best lock, so no disputing his selection, and he's feared by all teams, certainly in the NH from HEC, 6N etc.

Oh god I completely forgot about that stuff. The captain would suddenly start an out of character rant about how we have to **** up the other team. Every time it felt forced, cringe

Yamanoto

Gatland's making an appearance on the LLS tomorrow apparently.

Has he a book to flog or is it an exercise in catharsis - he did seem genuinely unnerved by the reaction to the whole BOD thing.