The dangers of being reclusive

P_1

Found this article written in the Indo this evening.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/man-died-from-diet-of-crisps-wine-and-chocolate-inquest-told-29648987.html

I know that being reclusive does have some benefits (not having to put up with the general public being one), but there is the risk of something like this happening once you decide to totally disengage from society. You can't help but feel very sorry for the poor chap's family.

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup

more like the dangers of not feeding yourself. poor chap though, and poor family, sounds like they did their best.

nocoverart

P_1 wrote: »

Found this article written in the Indo this evening.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/man-died-from-diet-of-crisps-wine-and-chocolate-inquest-told-29648987.html

I know that being reclusive does have some benefits (not having to put up with the general public being one), but there is the risk of something like this happening once you decide to totally disengage from society. You can't help but feel very sorry for the poor chap's family.

HaHa, that would definitely be a big positive TBH.

Turtwig

Sounds a lot like the person had mental health issues. He had a passive death wish and didn't get any help. It's unfortunate but I don't think it has anything to do with being reclusive. I think it's more a case of an illness making him become reclusive (among many other things.)

Horrible experience for the family to have to go through.

lertsnim

Poor guy.

canadianwoman

Poor fellow.

Muise...

wine and cheese would be my death-diet of choice. Though I might have to be annoyingly sociable to get my fix at fancy receptions when my own money runs out.

4zn76tysfajdxp

He wasn't reclusive like most people who consider themselves recluses when they stay inside on a Saturday night watching Con Air with a six pack of Dutch Gold before **** the bollocks off themselves to Kylie Minogue videos from the late-90s, he was genuinely mentally ill and starved himself to death. He's not one of your commoner-garden pretend misanthropes.

SpaceTime

That's very sad reading.
RIP

P_1

Jernal wrote: »

Sounds a lot like the person had mental health issues. He had a passive death wish and didn't get any help. It's unfortunate but I don't think it has anything to do with being reclusive. I think it's more a case of an illness making him become reclusive (among many other things.)

Horrible experience for the family to have to go through.

True, horrible experience for the family, especially when it seems that the son just didn't want any help

dd972

RIP, sounds like he was completely consumed by Depression from what I've read about the poor chap.

returnNull

Heart breaking for the family.

vitani

That's sad reading. Poor guy - only 30 years old as well.

SpaceTime

Unfortunately sometimes situations like that can occur and it's absolutely tragic and it sounds like people were doing their best to help and just didn't get through at all.

I just think sometimes lads really need to ensure that they talk to each other too though. There's a lot to be said for being able to chat to your mates who are your peers.

I keep coming across really isolated guys just through work and people I vaguely know and stuff. I think more so than women, guys can sometimes actually completely fail to form strong friendships and I don't know why that is.

Also a lot of male interaction for some guys is really superficial grunting chats about sport or something really meaningless.
I don't know if it's that some guys think that being over friendly is a bit 'gay', they're too macho to let their guard down or they're just lacking social skills entirely but I think we really need to make more effort to actually be friendly to other guys sometimes and actually genuinely take a bit of interest in what's going on in their lives.

I'm not for a moment saying that's what happened here, but I just mean in general I think whether you're male or female, just keep an eye out for the non-talkative guys who can sometimes just need someone to have a chat with them about anything really.

Obviously you can get women in that situation too but I think women are usually better at talking things out.

If there's some lad at college or at work who is really isolated, bring him out for a pint or invite him to stuff.

I was a class rep a few times in college and I always made a huge effort to try and look out for people like that and make sure everyone got an invite out and got mixing and I still try to do that at work too.

You can't always avoid situations like this and some people have serious mental illnesses going on but I think there's no harm in just reaching out a bit and making sure that you occasionally reach out to people who may totally lack the social skills to do it on their own.

suicide_circus

Jovanni Thousands Spyglass wrote: »

He wasn't reclusive like most people who consider themselves recluses when they stay inside on a Saturday night watching Con Air with a six pack of Dutch Gold before **** the bollocks off themselves to Kylie Minogue videos from the late-90s, he was genuinely mentally ill and starved himself to death. He's not one of your commoner-garden pretend misanthropes.

ConAir is a great film.

boobar

Poor guy...rip....god help his family, heartbreaking when someone won't accept help

humbert

I think the dangers of depression would be a far less misleading title.

PizzamanIRL

The Pringles slogan is scarily true here.

Why did the family not intervene if he was visibly malnourished?

[-0-]

Very sad.

No electricity and no heat. What did he do with himself all day? I love to spend time away from the Internet, and I don't have a TV but I occupy myself with books. Was he just sitting there or what like?

hfallada

Sounds like big Edie from grey gardens. She was jackie o a cousin and she lived in a mansion on the beach in the hamptons, NY. When they were filming grey gardens, the camera men constantly found dead animals and animal **** all over the house. No one know little Edie was still alive

She had two marriage proposals from 2 men who were both in top 100 richest people in the world. But yet she lived in a **** filled house

SimonQuinlank

Replace crisps and wine with nature valley bars and bavaria and it's pretty similar direction to how my life is/has/will end up going.

Wattle

You can be reclusive and have a good diet. Also reclusiveness doesn't always = mental health problems.

ONeill2013

wouldn't you gain weight if you lived on junk food and coke? it said he was 8 1/2 stone.

From the article:

At one stage, he was involuntarily admitted to a psychiatric hospital. However, he was released when an independent consultant said no overt features of psychosis or depression could be found.

Classic.

PizzamanIRL

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

The Pringles slogan is scarily true here.

Why did the family not intervene if he was visibly malnourished?

How exactly?

wandatowell

a "lack of motivation to live toward the end of his life"

feckin hell

catallus

It really is scary to think that there are people like this up and down the country who don't meet the criteria of depression or psychosis.

I think it's scary because they voluntarily turn their backs on the world and live in a way which will probably kill them.

Like other posters on here my thoughts are with the family.

P.Walnuts

ONeill2013 wrote: »

wouldn't you gain weight if you lived on junk food and coke? it said he was 8 1/2 stone.

Depends on how much of it he was eating/drinking

I get the impression he had lost all will to even eat ( as can happen the best of us through hard times) and found sugar and snacks the easiest things to ingest...a box a pringles and a bottle of coke a day would soon leave you skin and bones.

PizzamanIRL

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

The Pringles slogan is scarily true here.

Why did the family not intervene if he was visibly malnourished?

Yeah, let's blame the relatives left behind. I'm sure that'll make them feel much better.

He was admitted to hospital (sectioned, basically) and released because he didn't seem depressed. So what were they supposed to have done? You can't force feed an adult.

P_1

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

The Pringles slogan is scarily true here.

Why did the family not intervene if he was visibly malnourished?

If you take the time to read the article you'd see that the deceased purposely avoided his father when he came around to check up on him. Not really much help you can give when the person you're trying to help is avoiding you.

titan18

Jovanni Thousands Spyglass wrote: »

He wasn't reclusive like most people who consider themselves recluses when they stay inside on a Saturday night watching Con Air with a six pack of Dutch Gold before **** the bollocks off themselves to Kylie Minogue videos from the late-90s, he was genuinely mentally ill and starved himself to death. He's not one of your commoner-garden pretend misanthropes.

What idiots think that's what being reclusive is?