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'We Invented Jesus Christ'

  • 10-10-2013 12:56PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭Matt_Trakker


    They surmised that the way to stop the spread of zealous Jewish missionary activity was to create a competing belief system. That's when the 'peaceful' Messiah story was invented. Instead of inspiring warfare, this Messiah urged turn-the-other-cheek pacifism and encouraged Jews to 'give onto Caesar' and pay their taxes to Rome."
    What seems to have eluded many scholars is that the sequence of events and locations of Jesus ministry are more or less the same as the sequence of events and locations of the military campaign of [Emperor] Titus Flavius as described by Josephus. This is clear evidence of a deliberately constructed pattern.

    from....
    Ancient Confession Found: 'We Invented Jesus Christ'

    http://uk.prweb.com/releases/2013/10/prweb11201273.htm

    Well, that sorts that out then. Finally we can put that 'religion' to bed.
    Any suggestions on how to get rid of the rest of them oh good peoples of AH?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Holllyyy Sheeeeitttt! Lock this mother down boys!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Well, at least religion had a nice aul run.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭lahalane


    But the rest is still true right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,735 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Does he say which planet the aliens who wrote the confessions were from?

    I haven't click on the link, just assuming aliens are involved.


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  • Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Surely this would get a lot more media attention if it were true.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    I wish religion would die.

    Then we could stop having to see smug, undergraduate, fish-in-barrell, fucking threads about it every 5 minutes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭bizmark


    Surely this would get a lot more media attention if it were true.

    Surely the romans wouldnt of persecuted them so badly if it was true unless rome had a reaaaaaaally long view that would make the Chinese **** themselves in envy


  • Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I really want a Chinese right now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    Imagine that... all a lie, no...way...!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭andyman


    First thing that came to mind reading the thread title was this:



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Surely this would get a lot more media attention if it were true.

    Not necessarily. Academics moves slowly to accept new evidence (peer review is thorough, but takes a long time), and a lot of shocking stories that are definitely true never get the press they deserve.

    If this did become established as compelling enough evidence to be accepted as fact, it would take ages, and would meet massive resistance from anyone invested in it not being true. And as we're all well aware by now, most of the religions based around jebubs are considerably wealthier than academic bodies.

    It's unusual, and a little unlikely, but we'll have to wait and see to be sure, won't we?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭Ace Attorney


    In b4 angry email gets sent :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    BLASPHEMY!!!!!!!
    I have never been so offended!! :mad:


  • Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Aarav Mango Jelly


    Sounds plausible enough. We'll see how the whole peer review thing goes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭General General


    This news has been sent to test us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭MonstaMash


    BLASPHEMY!!!!!!!
    I have never been so offended!! :mad:
    This news has been sent to test us.
    :pac::pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    As much as I dislike it, if I was landed back into government of an ancient civilization, I'd be inventing Religion pretty sharpish to get things going my way.

    Easiest way, really.

    Interesting to see how the peer review goes, but quite plausible in my eyes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,217 ✭✭✭maximoose


    Headline is awfully misleading. It seems there is no actual "Yeah, we invented Jesus" type confession - just this guy saying he has found what he thinks proves Jesus was a fictional character based on someone else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 341 ✭✭Shout Dust


    It's a nonsense theory, and ironically has more holes than the bible.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Shout Dust wrote: »
    It's a nonsense theory, and ironically has more holes than the bible.

    You've seen his research, then, and not just the bits the journalist picked out for that article?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭gobnaitolunacy


    Red Dwarf were on to something...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suRzway95yI


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    bluewolf wrote: »
    Sounds plausible enough. We'll see how the whole peer review thing goes


    It actually sounds bat**** crazy, as it's generally accepted by pretty much all historical scholars of note that a man called Yeshua ben Yosef lived.

    Then you have the fact that the the new testament blatantly paints Rome as "the enemy", how does that fit in with trying to pacify Jews in Palestine?


    To be honest, it sounds like Da Vinci code-esque nonsense.


  • Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Aarav Mango Jelly


    Seaneh wrote: »
    It actually sounds bat**** crazy, as it's generally accepted by pretty much all historical scholars of note that a man called Yeshua ben Yosef lived..

    I've heard of some disagreeing, but there you go
    Not to mention "the presentation itself is crazy not because of its content but because I heard some other people disagree who haven't seen it" ?

    And if it is nuts, the peer review will sort it out


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    Ah, ffs, this is the same conspiracy theorist who's been banging this drum since the 80's.

    He's just pandering to tinfoil hat wearers, this **** is how he makes a living.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭bizmark


    But it wasn't till Constantine the great that Christianity became the state religion of the roman empire at lest 290 years after Jesus was (or ment to have been) born that's some forward planning wouldn't you think?on top of that there was quite a few emperors between then and year 1 that actively persecuted them on top of that the idea of Rome imposing a single believe in a single god goes completely against their own idea of religion and their pantheon of gods they didn't like Christians cause Christians would not believe in any god but their god.

    This doesnt make sense from what i know


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    Sarky wrote: »
    You've seen his research, then, and not just the bits the journalist picked out for that article?

    I know you're going to be one of the first to jump on anything that potentially disproves the existence of a man called Yeshua ben Yosef, but bare in mind the author involved has roundly been rejected by the academic world as a charlatan, his last book "Ceasar's Christ" is the same theory as this current round of attention seeking, and was laughed at as nonsense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭Sandwlch


    Kind of Jesus was PR spin doctor ?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 305 ✭✭Jimminy Mc Fukhead


    The article only reveals that he has noticed patterns between two texts.
    If he claims to have anything more than this then it's not worth talking about until he publishes that research.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Seaneh wrote: »
    I know you're going to be one of the first to jump on anything that potentially disproves the existence of a man called Yeshua ben Yosef, but bare in mind the author involved has roundly been rejected by the academic world as a charlatan, his last book "Ceasar's Christ" is the same theory as this current round of attention seeking, and was laughed at as nonsense.

    "Let's wait and see how peer review deals with it" is jumping on anything that disproves your god, is it? Perhaps you'd like to notify the Boards.ie office about such a grossly offensive statement?

    You'd get far less criticism for thin-skinned outrage if you didn't actually engage in it.


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