Saler cows and a Ch bull

Mac Taylor

With all the postings on here re the premium that the CH is attracting as a weanling. Has anyone gone down the road of crossing a CH bull on a PB Saler.

I have read the Saler annual and it is a cross that they promote and from what I can make out one that is practiced in France.

Also, the general comment re salers are that they are wild to put it mildly but is this true

vanderbadger

ive seen weanling in ennis mart last year, they were announced as ch calves from purebred saler cows, they were some animals and sold well
its deffo seems to be a good cross, no first hand experience of them though

missfarmer

We use “culard" charolais on pure Aubrac cows and are delighted. In the past we used Blue or charolais but there was no real advantage. Usufruit from dovea is the recommended culard bull from the french society. Easy calved , consistent and great muscle but I would only use on pure cows.

Richk2012

missfarmer wrote: »

We use “culard" charolais on pure Aubrac cows and are delighted. In the past we used Blue or charolais but there was no real advantage. Usufruit from dovea is the recommended culard bull from the french society. Easy calved , consistent and great muscle but I would only use on pure cows.

Had u a culard calf on display at the ploughing by any chance

missfarmer

Richk2012 wrote: »

Had u a culard calf on display at the ploughing by any chance

No but saw that calf in the aubrac stand. That calf would be a typical example of what I’m saying. 40% of the french aubrac herd is crossed with the culard and the consistency is amazing. All go to italy and command top price.

Livestockmad

Mac Taylor wrote: »

With all the postings on here re the premium that the CH is attracting as a weanling. Has anyone gone down the road of crossing a CH bull on a PB Saler.

I have read the Saler annual and it is a cross that they promote and from what I can make out one that is practiced in France.

Also, the general comment re salers are that they are wild to put it mildly but is this true

Salers make a decent cow nd good cross with a saler. Good growthy well boned golden colour calf. The only problem I have is to get my hands on them. I only saw them in another mans herd. He has about 10-20 salers mixed in the herd and is mad about them he counts them the best cows he has!

Livestockmad

Mac Taylor wrote: »

With all the postings on here re the premium that the CH is attracting as a weanling. Has anyone gone down the road of crossing a CH bull on a PB Saler.

I have read the Saler annual and it is a cross that they promote and from what I can make out one that is practiced in France.

Also, the general comment re salers are that they are wild to put it mildly but is this true

Salers make a decent cow nd good cross with a saler. Good growthy well boned golden colour calf. The only problem I have is to get my hands on them. I only saw them in another mans herd. He has about 10-20 salers mixed in the herd and is mad about them he counts them the best cows he has!

Bleating Lamb

Livestockmad wrote: »

Salers make a decent cow nd good cross with a saler. Good growthy well boned golden colour calf. The only problem I have is to get my hands on them. I only saw them in another mans herd. He has about 10-20 salers mixed in the herd and is mad about them he counts them the best cows he has!

The Shorthorn is a similar type animal,only difference is they are far quieter,leave better hair on calf from Char bull and are better mothers;)

micky mouse

missfarmer wrote: »

We use “culard" charolais on pure Aubrac cows and are delighted. In the past we used Blue or charolais but there was no real advantage. Usufruit from dovea is the recommended culard bull from the french society. Easy calved , consistent and great muscle but I would only use on pure cows.

Did you ever use any other culard.Used usufruit one year never again,wasnt a patch on lanzac.Even allowing for his size(lack of)he still had serious calves

Dozer1

hoping to try this cross here in the next few years, picked up a Saler weanling heifer at the mart lately for 490 off of ODX accoring to her details on the Dept website. Next door neighbour has a small dairy herd and there's a lovely red heifer running with one of the cows, might inquire about her aswell

mikeoh

There is a PB herd of salers down this way and they run their own culard char with them ...and no more problems than the next man....serious calves

mikeoh

There is a PB herd of salers down this way and they run their own culard char with them ...and no more problems than the next man....serious calves

hugo29

i have a LimXSalers cow and she is the quietest cow in the herd, pure pet

throws super calves to the BB and the CH but rubbish to the Lim

seen some CH out of salers, super animals

Livestockmad

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

The Shorthorn is a similar type animal,only difference is they are far quieter,leave better hair on calf from Char bull and are better mothers;)

Id fully agree. A nice shorthorn cannot be bet without a shadow of a doubt. Iv a few. But picking up more is hard. The dairy ones are goin to scrawny and the beef are moving to far from milk. I think a shorthorn crossed with limo makes lovely calves nd nice replacements. I cross mine with CWI from dovea. Im very happy with him, easy calved, lively calves suckling in a matter of minutes and growthy long tall calves with muscle without being overdone!  

Livestockmad

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

The Shorthorn is a similar type animal,only difference is they are far quieter,leave better hair on calf from Char bull and are better mothers;)

Id fully agree. A nice shorthorn cannot be bet without a shadow of a doubt. Iv a few. But picking up more is hard. The dairy ones are goin to scrawny and the beef are moving to far from milk. I think a shorthorn crossed with limo makes lovely calves nd nice replacements. I cross mine with CWI from dovea. Im very happy with him, easy calved, lively calves suckling in a matter of minutes and growthy long tall calves with muscle without being overdone!  

Lastin

micky mouse wrote: »

Did you ever use any other culard.Used usufruit one year never again,wasnt a patch on lanzac.Even allowing for his size(lack of)he still had serious calves

I agree Lanzac was brilliant I am sorry I didn't buy more straws when they were available, we used him for regularly on all cow types and were never disappointed . We tried Rambo aswell but not with the same success