can this be fixed?

ccull123

Cycled home from work today and the back wheel of my bike def didn't feel right. Inspected it and found the rear back part of the frame had snapped. Can this even be fixed????

Captain Havoc

No.

wirelessdude01

Could it be welded?

ccull123

How in the name of Christ does this even happen?

shedweller

I've welded one or two frames in my time but not like this one. Its a very thin piece and would need to be filed afterwards to take the dropout. So in a nutshell: no. New frame time.

Darkglasses

Congratulations! You get to be the next boardsie with a new bike!

GTDolanator

BIN new bike time its too tricky of a spot to fix and there's not much to work with

TouchingVirus

Why couldn't it be fixed? It doesn't look like it was fabricated as one piece - you can clearly see the welding on both pieces of the frame further away from the point of damage. To the uneducated (me) it looks like if you could fab a piece similar in dimensions you could swap the broken bit and re-weld the replacement onto the frame?

ccull123

The JOYS!!!!! any chance i would be even to sell it for parts???? Could i make any money off of it. Im based in Dublin

shedweller

TouchingVirus wrote: »

Why couldn't it be fixed? It doesn't look like it was fabricated as one piece - you can clearly see the welding on both pieces of the frame further away from the point of damage. To the uneducated (me) it looks like if you could fab a piece similar in dimensions you could swap the broken bit and re-weld the replacement onto the frame?

Ya could of course. But by the time youd have done that youd have a pain in yer bollix and would gladly have paid for a new frame. If you got someone to do it for you you would pay a significant amount of the price of a new frame to fix the old one. And if a bit just broke due to metal fatigue you can rest assured something else will break in a short while.
Back to square one.
Just buy a new frame!

Hunterbiker

Would you trust a weld there? Even if it coukd be welded I can't see it lasting long.

As for making money off parts anything has a value but it depends on age, condition, wear etc.

Sorry for you to find yourself in this position but there is value to be had in second hand bikes

TouchingVirus

shedweller wrote: »

Ya could of course. But by the time youd have done that youd have a pain in yer bollix and would gladly have paid for a new frame. If you got someone to do it for you you would pay a significant amount of the price of a new frame to fix the old one. And if a bit just broke due to metal fatigue you can rest assured something else will break in a short while.
Back to square one.
Just buy a new frame!

Yeah, I looked into a bit more because it's definitely something a skilled welder should be able to handle. You're right in that it probably will work out as being an impractical spending of money, no harm in devil's advocating though

Hunterbiker wrote: »

Would you trust a weld there? Even if it coukd be welded I can't see it lasting long.

Well I would - replace the whole dropout as opposed to welding the broken bit. If the welds on the chain stay and seat stay are good it'll probably outlast the rest of the frame.

r27

What type of bike is it ?

ccull123

r27 wrote: »

What type of bike is it ?

Trek 7.1!

Darkglasses

Is it old? Might be worth investigating frame warranty since it's a big international brand like Trek.

Someone else on here will know more than me about that stuff.

ccull123

I think its the 2012 frame but i bought it second hand about a year ago. Would i need the warranty and that?

cdaly_

Find a trek dealer, bring the frame and ask them to pursue warranty. That shouldn't fail in that space of time (unless a crash or something). Only problem is 'lifetime warranty' sometimes only applies to the original owner. Worth a try though...

Bigus

I think fabricating a new drop out and alu welding it wouldn't be a big deal to an engineering works.



http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056829402

Squidgy Black

Any decent frame builder should be able to fabricate and weld a new dropout on for you, but we're talking in the region of probably over a hundred quid if not more after removing the old dropout etc.

So the question now is whether you deem the bike to be worth it for the expense.

Personally, I think it's not and I'd go off and just buy another bike off adverts.

Cee-Jay-Cee

Even if someone told me that it could be repaired/welded I'd never have any trust in the bike and would be constantly braced in case a bump or pothole in the road caused it to crack/break again. Get a new frame and transfer everything over or just write the whole bike off and buy a brand new shiny one to cheer yourself up!

shedweller

ccull123 wrote: »

Trek 7.1!

There's two of them on adverts for €300 or thereabouts. You'd pay maybe a third of that to get your one welded. If you're really stuck i suppose it's better to repair than a whole big outlay on new gear.
As mentioned above, try the warranty. After that, see what a repair will cost. Best of luck and post pics of the repair if you go down that route. I love repair pics!

Colonialboy

Your story sounds familiar , check out this guys issue with his Trek 7.1 .
From the image it looks like the exact same breakage point .

He mentions a lifetime guaranteee on the frame. If I were you Id contact Trek, and push hard on this .... they dont need this kind of publicity .

http://www.cabaal.org/log/2009/01/i-got-new-trek-71-fx.html

bad bad trek... outsourcing it always ends in tears ...

Green&Red

If you get a new bike will u think about cleaning it?

ford2600

Trek have lifetime warranty on frames to original owner only. Unless the trek dealer knows you he can't/won't be able to help you I think.

Given dirt of drivetrain I wouldn't take those parts for free!

From a safety perspective if you keep bike clean you will spot cracks much sooner. It saved me last year anyhow

ccull123

ford2600 wrote: »

Trek have lifetime warranty on frames to original owner only. Unless the trek dealer knows you he can't/won't be able to help you I think.

Given dirt of drivetrain I wouldn't take those parts for free!

From a safety perspective if you keep bike clean you will spot cracks much sooner. It saved me last year anyhow

Im not even sure where the bike was originally purchased. Drive train was filthy alright, over the last two/three months I was promising to myself i would service it. I contacted trek and without the original receipt(at the very least) there is nothing they can do.

ford2600

The rest of bike those have a value, not a lot but you could break it for parts or keep for spares for new bike

irlgw

It is an easy fix that should only cost you about €30 euro- if you can source a replaceable dropout (ask trek maybe) It must be cut at the original weld though. Tig Aluminium weld will be as strong as the original. It possible that the rear skewer wasn't tight enough or the wheel wasn't properly aligned. I think that if you spend the time to get a dropout then finding someone to weld it will be easy enough.

spyderski

That's whole bikes for sale for €300. I'd say the frame is worth €75. So to spend even €30 fixing it is probably uneconomical. And I'd bet you the same thirty euro that you can't fix this frame for €30 in this country.

ccull123

RIP Treky seems to be the consensus:mad:
thanks everyone for your replies!

Darkglasses

ccull123 wrote: »

RIP Treky seems to be the consensus:mad:
thanks everyone for your replies!

Saw you put in an offer for the Giant Rapid in the adverts, excellent choice. Enjoy the new bike!

ccull123

Darkglasses wrote: »

Saw you put in an offer for the Giant Rapid in the adverts, excellent choice. Enjoy the new bike!

Thanks mate! The thoughts of another morning commute on Dublin Bus pushed me to get it this week even if i cant afford it at the moment.

ford2600

ccull123 wrote: »

Thanks mate! The thoughts of another morning commute on Dublin Bus pushed me to get it this week even if i cant afford it at the moment.

Looks like a lovely bike. Best of luck with it and note how clean it is!

petethedrummer

http://www.trekbikes.com/ie/en/support/warranty

ccull123

petethedrummer wrote: »

http://www.trekbikes.com/ie/en/support/warranty

I bought it second hand and lost the details of the person I purchased it from.

ford2600

petethedrummer wrote: »

http://www.trekbikes.com/ie/en/support/warranty

This warranty extends from the date of purchase, is offered only to the original owner, and is not transferable

Surveyor11

You won't get a frame under warranty unless you're the original owner.

Have you considered a new frame? Either 2nd hand or a new Dolan Preffisio could be had for about €150 - they have an ebay outlet and got a frame from them last year.

ccull123

Surveyor11 wrote: »

You won't get a frame under warranty unless you're the original owner.

Have you considered a new frame? Either 2nd hand or a new Dolan Preffisio could be had for about €150 - they have an ebay outlet and got a frame from them last year.

Just purchased another bike which im happy with it.

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Surveyor11 wrote: »

Either 2nd hand or a new Dolan Preffisio could be had for about €150 - they have an ebay outlet and got a frame from them last year.

Any links to this eBay outlet please?

Surveyor11

Katie Disgusting Llama wrote: »

Any links to this eBay outlet please?

Here you go:

http://myworld.ebay.ie/dolanbikesuk?_trksid=p2047675.l2559