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Agbags and tube wrappers

  • 05-10-2013 10:03pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭


    They never came into ireland that im aware of but surely a wagon and agbag would be better than those flaming bales.saw a tube wrapper doing 3 big square bales too looks a mighty handy job


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    keep going wrote: »
    They never came into ireland that im aware of but surely a wagon and agbag would be better than those flaming bales.saw a tube wrapper doing 3 big square bales too looks a mighty handy job

    there is agbaggers working in Ireland but not getting much work, a balls of a concept if you ask me, give me a slab of concrete anyway over the cost of plastic and machinery agbag cost.

    Tube wrappers look the business from what I have seen. Big 5x4 of silage weighing in at 1.5t tube wrapped would be a cheap way of going about business


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    Id love to use a tube wrapper with out wintering just move the fence up to the bale or have a little frame to go around to carry the wire if you need to feed awider strip of kale etc.should cut down the wrap alot.the 3 big bales stacked on top of each other woul put alot of stuff in a small space too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    keep going wrote: »
    Id love to use a tube wrapper with out wintering just move the fence up to the bale or have a little frame to go around to carry the wire if you need to feed awider strip of kale etc.should cut down the wrap alot.the 3 big bales stacked on top of each other woul put alot of stuff in a small space too

    what size squares were the 3 bales stacked on top of each other. I know for wrapping they stack two 6x4x3 on top of each other


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    there is agbaggers working in Ireland but not getting much work, a balls of a concept if you ask me, give me a slab of concrete anyway over the cost of plastic and machinery agbag cost.

    Tube wrappers look the business from what I have seen. Big 5x4 of silage weighing in at 1.5t tube wrapped would be a cheap way of going about business

    Canyou get balers to make a 5x4 silage bales, thought they wouldnt be strong enough


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    what size squares were the 3 bales stacked on top of each other. I know for wrapping they stack two 6x4x3 on top of each other

    Seach yuotube and you will come across it.type reeves 885


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    keep going wrote: »
    Canyou get balers to make a 5x4 silage bales, thought they wouldnt be strong enough

    My contractor says the baler he is going buying for next season Krone Comprima can make up to 5ft in diameter. ideal for hauling long distances.just looking at the krone website and they have a baler making a bale 2.05m or six and a half ft in diameter


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    My contractor says the baler he is going buying for next season Krone Comprima can make up to 5ft in diameter. ideal for hauling long distances.just looking at the krone website and they have a baler making a bale 2.05m or six and a half ft in diameter

    Its a concept that looks great in theory but we have no way of trashing out the economics of it .I presume that it would be a dearer balebecause it would halve th bale count .what length of wrap is in a roll.the circumference is around 3.3 metres and you would how many runs per bales maybe 8so thats 27 metres per bale.just googled and its 1500 metres which is 55 bales which would be 110 4x4 s so thats 80 cent a bale.now we just have to quiz up your contractor


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    keep going wrote: »
    Its a concept that looks great in theory but we have no way of trashing out the economics of it .I presume that it would be a dearer balebecause it would halve th bale count .what length of wrap is in a roll.the circumference is around 3.3 metres and you would how many runs per bales maybe 8so thats 27 metres per bale.

    contractor is shifting bales about 30 miles and hopefully he will be back loading bales for me about 20 miles and reckons all bales will be over a ton and of 40 dm silage. That would mean a good average crop of silage would be around 4 to 5 bales and around 4.5-5ft in diameter. Obviously would need to be strapped down better as the centre of gravity is much higher but he thinks its the way to go for him. and charge guys wanting big bales more and anyone that want the 4ft bale will get the standard charge.

    I was disappointed to see the new plastic "net wrap" Mchale is offering is actually going to add cost to the silage bale. I taught the whole point was that less wrap would be needed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    contractor is shifting bales about 30 miles and hopefully he will be back loading bales for me about 20 miles and reckons all bales will be over a ton and of 40 dm silage. That would mean a good average crop of silage would be around 4 to 5 bales and around 4.5-5ft in diameter. Obviously would need to be strapped down better as the centre of gravity is much higher but he thinks its the way to go for him. and charge guys wanting big bales more and anyone that want the 4ft bale will get the standard charge.

    I was disappointed to see the new plastic "net wrap" Mchale is offering is actually going to add cost to the silage bale. I taught the whole point was that less wrap would be needed

    As far as I can see its just means you have only warp to deal with and no net or twine


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    I see samco are promoting an agbager with a crimper and says it will cost 16 euro a ton , looks a handy job .any one used it


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭sheebadog


    keep going wrote: »
    I see samco are promoting an agbager with a crimper and says it will cost 16 euro a ton , looks a handy job .any one used it

    Yep. Used it for crimp maize and soya. Zero waste. Lots of different makes in continental europe.
    Major downside is vermin like crows and rats.


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