Have you changed any of your internet habits since this NSA thing?

iamstop

I'm sure some helpful boardsie will inform us all that the CT thread is that way ----> but I think this is a better representation of the Irish population than there.

So, I know a few people who have taped over their web cams when not using them and at last one person who has a computer exclusively for smut, ie. no logging into any sights or checking email, smut only.

Any of you lot at anything like setting up Tor or whatever?

lahalane

Little to no bestiality pornography for me these days.

bizmark

I stopped calculating all my fertilizer bomb ingredients and yeilds on google documents.

Elessar

I've started using a logless VPN to access the net. Well it was a special in bargain alerts, but nonetheless I'm using it now. Don't like the idea of being spied on and additionally everything you do on the net is stored for a few years under EU legislation.

We wouldn't accept that kind of behaviour in the real world, so why accept it on the net?

ringadingding

I always presumed it was being monitored, and to be honest I'm pretty shocked more people didn't.

Sunglasses Ron

Yes I have.

For you see, I am an idiot. I had no idea that the USA had been monitoring worldwide internet and telephone traffic since at the very least the late 1990's. I don't watch the news, read current affairs books, or watch documentaries. I only found out 9/11 happened last year.

God bless Edward Snowden for showing us all what a nefarious snoopy dog Obama is.

Sunglasses Ron

ringadingding wrote: »

I always presumed it was being monitored, and to be honest I'm pretty shocked more people didn't.

People are morons. Most of them think the whole thing is an Obama invented scheme. It ties in with the masses suddenly deciding he is no longer cool. Mainly because he looks a bit more physically drained and doesn't have as much va va voom as he had as a hip young thing back in 2008. The general public are a fickle and not particularly bright bunch. Nobody gave a ****e when he attacked Libya but Syria suddenly makes him a war monger. I honestly reckon it is because Irish Joe Public associates Gaddafi with the Lockerbie bombing, and the UK Joe Public associates him with Lockerbie AND IRA gun and Semtex supplying, so he was fairer game to attack than some Syrian who has never really bothered our part of the world.

KONY 2012! OCCUPY WORLD CITIES FOR THE SAKE OF IT! **** THE NSA! FREE JULIAN ASSANGE! FREE BRADLEY MANNING AND LET'S CALL HIM A LADY BECAUSE HE WANTS TO BE CALLED ONE!

I am trying to predict what the next flavour of the month cause will be.

lkionm

A laptop purely for porn?

He must be into some weird weird stuff

anncoates

I hardly ever look at porn and only download the odd bit of music plus to be honest, I'm nowhere near conceited enough to actually believe that my surfing habits are subversive enough to stand out from millions of other people.

SweetCaliber

iamstop wrote: »

I'm sure some helpful boardsie will inform us all that the CT thread is that way ----> but I think this is a better representation of the Irish population than there.

So, I know a few people who have taped over their web cams when not using them and at last one person who has a computer exclusively for smut, ie. no logging into any sights or checking email, smut only.

Any of you lot at anything like setting up Tor or whatever?

It's been going on for a while now, Got rid of my webcam ages ago and use a VPN for everything now.

Better be safe than sorry! Not that I'm doing anything wrong, just don't like people looking over my shoulder tbh.

jester77

I built a custom tinfoil hat for my router.

Teyla Emmagan

I don't know what you're on about to be honest.

kneemos

Doubt they'll notice you unless you type in Airplane and Bombs.




Ooops.

jaykay74

I downloaded the whole internet locally so do all my browsing offline these days.

Peter B

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdmoucgNhj4

Hoop66

I think you have to be either naive or uninformed not to realise that everything you do online has been being stored somewhere for a long, long time.

So, you either get all secret squirrel about it and congratulate yourself on outwitting the man, or you realise that you just don't matter and cease to give a fúck.

SEMTEX NUKES OBAMA ASSASSINATION you can have that for free.

wexie

Nope, haven't changed a thing.

The amounts of data gathered through internet monitoring are of such absolutely staggering proportions that it is absolutely, completely and utterly impossible to actively do anything with. As such you will never ever be the cause of any NSA scrutiny unless you've already somehow gotten the attention of any government agencies.

I seriously doubt that the NSA would be interested in my browsing habits or my particular perversions. From what I've seen in the darker corners of the interweb I'm really not that unusual.

And anybody who thinks that the NSA might have an interest in hacking their webcam is either more than slightly paranoid, or up to some seriously nefarious stuff. Trust me, it's most unlikely anybody in Washington has any interest in what you get up to with your laptop.**

** unless of course it's for the giant archive of amateur internet porn they keep in the secret vaults in Maryland, also known as the Clinton Presidential Library

mike65

I'm now looking at more illegal stuff than ever - just to spite them.

Mr Benevolent

Haven't changed anything since I'm not doing anything illegal.

Duggy747

It's driven people soft and given conspiracy theorists ammo, that a G-man is in an office detailing their specific online habit for something incredibly sinister.

I have people who won't even allow remote connection through something like Teamviewer in case the NSA "tap the line" or a woman who refuses to use any "big corporation" service like Gmail, Hotmail, Facebook, etc, in case the government from her home country are watching and use things against her.

I'm done trying to talk sense and logic to these people.

Sunglasses Ron

wexie wrote: »

Nope, haven't changed a thing.

The amounts of data gathered through internet monitoring are of such absolutely staggering proportions that it is absolutely, completely and utterly impossible to actively do anything with. As such you will never ever be the cause of any NSA scrutiny unless you've already somehow gotten the attention of any government agencies.

I can't recall the exact figure but there is a six figure amount of people working in Homeland Security, many of them in outsourced call centres, tasked with listening and reviewing god knows how many millions and billions of emails, Facebook pages, message board postings and so on.

There are 7 billion people in the world. The combined figure for people who own devices for access to internet, mobiles, landlines, let's just call it four billion (I don't know if that is true, let's just say so for the sake)

Over 12 years of heightened monitoring, I would reckon it is highly likely most of us have, at least once, had our FB looked at, had a call auto recorded because we used some innocuous term the voice recognition software red flagged, and so on. A few hundred thousand staff, let's just say 300,000, have responsibility for monitoring four billion people. That is just over 10,000 per staff member. In twelve years there is a good chance most of us have been "reviewed" a few times.

But what do I care!

Birroc

iamstop wrote: »

I'm sure some helpful boardsie will inform us all that the CT thread is that way ----> but I think this is a better representation of the Irish population than there.

So, I know a few people who have taped over their web cams when not using them and at last one person who has a computer exclusively for smut, ie. no logging into any sights or checking email, smut only.

Any of you lot at anything like setting up Tor or whatever?

NSA? CT? What are you on about?

kneemos

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

I can't recall the exact figure but there is a six figure amount of people working in Homeland Security, many of them in outsourced call centres, tasked with listening and reviewing god knows how many millions and billions of emails, Facebook pages, message board postings and so on.

There are 7 billion people in the world. The combined figure for people who own devices for access to internet, mobiles, landlines, let's just call it four billion (I don't know if that is true, let's just say so for the sake)

Over 12 years of heightened monitoring, I would reckon it is highly likely most of us have, at least once, had our FB looked at, had a call auto recorded because we used some innocuous term the voice recognition software red flagged, and so on. A few hundred thousand staff, let's just say 300,000, have responsibility for monitoring four billion people. That is just over 10,000 per staff member. In twelve years there is a good chance most of us have been "reviewed" a few times.


But what do I care!

What difference would it make if you were "reviewed"?or is it the principle you don't like?

Khannie

I've changed a few things:

I'm using OTR to encrypt online chat. I've stopped using skype to send sensitive data (like passwords and the like). I encrypt email to some people (I wish this was easier). I've started using startpage.com for my googling. That's about it.

StewartGriffin

I write long sizzling love letters to the head of the CIA. No replies yet. Fingers crossed.

Khannie

Khannie wrote: »

I've changed a few things:

I'm using OTR to encrypt online chat. I've stopped using skype to send sensitive data (like passwords and the like). I encrypt email to some people (I wish this was easier). I've started using startpage.com for my googling. That's about it.

Oh yes, I've started using a tool called keepass to store my passwords. This is a flippin' epic tool. Everyone should use it. It auto-generates ridiculously complex passwords for sites for you then remembers them.

There is an online version called lastpass, but I couldn't trust that they weren't leaking passwords, tbh.

It took a little effort to switch over, but there's an android client and so on so it works on my phone too. Super piece of kit.

Hande hoche!

StewartGriffin wrote: »

I write long sizzling love letters to the head of the CIA. No replies yet. Fingers crossed.

Perhaps try putting some powdered sugar in the letter? I hear he has a sweet tooth.

I didn't care what people saw before and I don't really care now. Don't deal with any sensitive information, but if I did, I'd follow the right procedures.

wandatowell

Infairness it would be so cool working for the NSA.




They got all the best toys

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

Nah. I've always been in the habit of looking for NSA on the internet.

Khannie

wandatowell wrote: »

Infairness it would be so cool working for the NSA.




They got all the best toys

I'd say it would be cool and I bet they do. I also genuinely believe that they believe they're doing the right thing and I don't think I could fault them for it - "Not our citizens - spy like f*ck, sure why wouldn't ye?". I also bet they understand why I don't want them doing it.

krudler

anncoates wrote: »

I hardly ever look at porn and only download the odd bit of music plus to be honest, I'm nowhere near conceited enough to actually believe that my surfing habits are subversive enough to stand out from millions of other people.

That, unless you're looking at some seriously dodgy stuff then the chances are the NSA doesn't give two sh1tes about your amazon wishlist or youtube viewing habits. "Oh look he's in the kittens falling asleep part of youtube again"

Elbaston

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

Yes I have.

For you see, I am an idiot. I had no idea that the USA had been monitoring worldwide internet and telephone traffic since at the very least the late 1990's. I don't watch the news, read current affairs books, or watch documentaries. I only found out 9/11 happened last year.

God bless Edward Snowden for showing us all what a nefarious snoopy dog Obama is.

ooohhhh..
Now dont you go blaming Obama for prying into our lives.

....blame the American people and their sense of entitlement to snoop on the day to day lives of citizens of countries who are supposed "allies".

StupidLikeAFox

I dont even use the internet anymore

Jester252

If someone is looking into my life I what to take this time to apologize because like most people here my life is so dull you more than likely find it hard to stay awake a work

KyussBishop

As posted in another thread:
"NSA and GCHQ target Tor network that protects anonymity of web users"
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/04/nsa-gchq-attack-tor-network-encryption

19543261

ringadingding wrote: »

I always presumed it was being monitored, and to be honest I'm pretty shocked more people didn't.

Fact carries a little more weight than presumption, would you believe.

But never mind that-- arent you great?

ringadingding

19543261 wrote: »

Fact carries a little more weight than presumption, would you believe.

But never mind that-- arent you great?

If i presume somebody might warrant the stuff that I look at to be worthy of monitoring, and either decide that I dont care, or adjust my habits, then yeah whats the problem exactly.

and whats with the ´arent you great ´?

Sunglasses Ron

kneemos wrote: »

What difference would it make if you were "reviewed"?or is it the principle you don't like?

I don't! I couldn't care less if they were listening! I would rather be eavesdropped than die in a bomb attack that could have been foiled by eavesdropping. People are getting carried away, the monitoring is to prevent terrorism, it is not the old USSR, you won't be jailed for complaining about the government to your mate over the phone.

humbert

I run my botnets and terrorist activities through tor now, rather than humbertsbotnetsandterroristactivities.com. On the upside I can tell you I got a pretty penny for such a desirable domain name.

19543261

ringadingding wrote: »

If i presume somebody might warrant the stuff that I look at to be worthy of monitoring, and either decide that I dont care, or adjust my habits, then yeah whats the problem exactly.

and whats with the ´arent you great ´?

Yes, many people with any knowledge of technology or the USA's foreign policy have suspected a right number of things in the past.

But that Yahoo, Google, Facebook, Skype, Microsoft and so on, were all in bed with the NSA, that other nations spied on their own citizens equally; as for the budget and the resources gone into targeting every single civilian, nobody could have imagined the scale of it all and be called sane. It was unimaginable - I despise this "I told you so!" sentiment spouted by so many. Get off it.

Cee-Jay-Cee

I started googling "how to kill the NSA in their sleep" and "how to confuse an NSA operative" and "how to google stuff so that the NSA can't find out"

donegal__road

A couple of years ago, I was spitting fire on boards.ie about a certain politician; I was using a a different username to the one I have now.
A week later I received a friend request from their Linkedin profile.

humbert

donegal__road wrote: »

A couple of years ago, I was spitting fire on boards.ie about a certain politician; I was using a a different username to the one I have now.
A week later I received a friend request from their Linkedin profile.

You suspect their Linkedin profile was spying on you for the NSA?

donegal__road

humbert wrote: »

You suspect their Linkedin profile was spying on you for the NSA?

nope, my point is that there is little or no confidentiality on internet forums as it is, than to be worried about the NSA spying on you.

Capt'n Midnight

Here's the thing, if you have recently changed your internet habits then that act itself would flag you have something to hide

D1stant

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Here's the thing, if you have recently changed your internet habits then that act itself would flag you have something to hide

Aye there's the rub. Do I continue my deviant internet use and hope I wont be caught or stop my deviant internet use and hope I wont be caught....

shruikan2553

Evryone is doing super interesting stuff that must be kept secret. Look at the people talking about the camera on the xbox one thinking that somewhere someone cares about their 1337 noscope noobz.

Would I prefer nobody watching? sure, but if someone did its their job to go through mountains of crap, they arent creating a profile for everyone in the world. "Shruikan enjoys "hangin with his bitches", long walks on the beach and spends his time on the internet looking at pictures of cats and BBW porn"

Bog Standard User

Elessar wrote: »

I've started using a logless VPN to access the net. Well it was a special in bargain alerts, but nonetheless I'm using it now. Don't like the idea of being spied on and additionally everything you do on the net is stored for a few years under EU legislation.

We wouldn't accept that kind of behaviour in the real world, so why accept it on the net?

do you send sms messages? they get stored for upto 5 years. even your voice mails are stored.

time to buy shares in tin foil compaines... we be needing to tin foil everywhere. starting with this nice new hat. ^

Capt'n Midnight

Bog Standard User wrote: »

time to buy shares in tin foil compaines... we be needing to tin foil everywhere. starting with this nice new hat. ^

ha fool !

That's what they want you to think.

Tin foil hats act as parabolic dishes with a peak effect in the 1.2-1.6GHz range. And yes those frequencies are government controlled.

Capt'n Midnight

D1stant wrote: »

Aye there's the rub. Do I continue my deviant internet use and hope I wont be caught or stop my deviant internet use and hope I wont be caught....

Put it this way if you have no suspicious internet activity whatsoever they'll probably think you are faking a profile to avoid surveillance