Garda called over crying child on bus

fussyonion

Surprised not to have seen a thread on this today..

The Gardai were called to the number 66 bus to deal with a mother whose child had been screaming crying for fifteen minutes.
The driver called the Gardai as he had enough.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGolYIl_Cgc

Was the driver right to call the Gardai? Or is this something petty?

I feel like Adrian Kennedy now

Shane-KornSpace

It was uncalled for.

*tumble weed*

LeinsterDub

fussyonion wrote: »

I feel like Adrian Kennedy now

Adrian is gone , you're living in the past , quit living in the past!

Celly Smunt

"if you don't behave i'm going to call the police."

Taking the old mammy quote to a new level.

The Backwards Man

Depends why the babog was crying I suppose.

Czarcasm

Yes.

That child doesn't sound right at all.

I got about 30 seconds in, no way I'd be listening to that for another 8 minutes!

Rho b

About 15 years ago I was on a plane flight from Heathrow to Dublin with a couple who's baby was screaming it's head off for the whole flight. They were in the seats in front of me
I didn't call the Gardai or even the Air Hostess/Steward - ****e happens from time to time - teething etc.
And you do sound like that dope Kennedy

lahalane

Someone is going to have to explain this to me because I am lost??

Gibney91

The child was crying for 50 mins not 15 from what I heard the bus driver asked was the child okay, the mother wasn't paying attention to the child and talking to her friend. From what I seen the child was completely neglected but I could be wrong as I wasn't there only watching a video online

SimonQuinlank

Most drivers don't call the Garda for people playing crap music out loud or drinking or openly taking drugs on buses,but this driver has no bother calling them over a crying child.Bit odd.

Cody Pomeray

I know this is annoying but crying babies, just like pervasive body odour and cheky kids are one of the hazards of public transport.

It isn't always the right thing to attend to a crying child. Admittedly it seems rude not to forego that principle as a once-off when other passengers' mental composure is offended.

I think the mom could have been less rude and the bus driver could have been less of a dick.

returnNull

As usual the comments are more interesting than the actual youtube video

go up to blanchardstown s.c. around the mc. donalds area and u will see that these ****** children go absolutely crazy !! and the parents do nothing !!! this country never wanted **** to come here and its now destroyed because these **** are complete racist dogs and they are destroying this country that was once so beautiful!!my parents never grew up amongst such **** !! so y shud we ???

Toshi101

Cody Pomeray wrote: »

I know this is annoying but crying babies, just like pervasive body odour and cheky kids are one of the hazards of public transport.

It isn't always the right thing to attend to a crying child. Admittedly it seems rude not to forego that principle as a once-off when other passengers' mental composure is offended.

I think the mom could have been less rude and the bus driver could have been less of a dick.

Ah thats no fun, pick a side :P

the merchant

I initially came to this with a defensive "babies cry, you're on a bus ffs" attitude. But having watched the whole thing I'm with the driver. I feel he called the guards with the babies welfare in mind, not just because he'd "had enough".

If a parent can ignore an obviously distressed baby for so long in public - imagine how they treat then behind closed doors. Sickening.

Fukuyama

She seems to be ignoring the child altogether for several minutes which is odd. Not even an attempt to calm him.

Definitely right to call the guards if only so they can have a quick word to make sure everything alright (as in the people are the kid parents etc... ) because they weren't acting like it.

Fukuyama

returnNull wrote: »

As usual the comments are more interesting than the actual youtube video

Avoid the YouTube comments section, in its entirety. How anyone could stand over any of the comments made there is beyond me. They're normally behind a vauge username too.

whatdoicare

God, that cry would go through your brain!! How could those two just stand/sit there and take that?? Surely if they at least half tried to distract the child or picked him up or done something it would have been better. At least people could appreciate they were trying and that there was nothing they could do. Leaving a child become distressed like that can't be good for him, that would be borderline abusive IMO.

humbert

Creepy bastard recording it on the phone. Here's a child crying, better video this shit.

Smidge

the merchant wrote: »

I initially came to this with a defensive "babies cry, you're on a bus ffs" attitude. But having watched the whole thing I'm with the driver. I feel he called the guards with the babies welfare in mind, not just because he'd "had enough".

If a parent can ignore an obviously distressed baby for so long in public - imagine how they treat then behind closed doors. Sickening.

Agreed.
Watched the whole video and it does appear that the child was crying for 50 minutes.
We have all had to put up with our own kids having tantrums but that's not what that was about.

It was the way she completely ignored her own child.
Nobody I know would let their child scream like that for 50 mins on a public bus.
If the child was having a hissy and you were trying to implement the "ignoring bad behaviour" (which I totally agree with btw)you get off the damn bus and WALK while ignoring him????


I think the bus driver was spot on calling AGS.

How many times have people said after the fact of something bad happening to a child(and I'm not saying that its the case here)"Why didn't anybody say anything, do anything?"
If the mother was so completely non-plussed by that situation in public, I dread to think how she would react in private.

Also, the youtube comments?
Idiots will always be idiots.

I didn't notice any of those fools make mention of the black lady who gave it to the mother at the end of the clip

Fair play to her!

Rho b

humbert wrote: »

Creepy bastard recording it on the phone. Here's a child crying, better video this shit.

Hubert - you are totally correct. WTF planet does he/she come from. Maybe it would be too much effort to try and help/assist. As I posted earlier, while on the flight from Heathrow had an unpleasant experience with a screaming baby, several people, me included tried to pacify the screaming baby, unfortunately to no avail. TBH his parents were more upset than most of the passengers, excluding a handful which included me. Thankfully the doors of the plane were securely locked as I did consider baling out at one point :eek:

MadsL

Is there a link to the video so that I can leave a judgemental comment?

ballsymchugh

Rho b wrote: »

Hubert - you are totally correct. WTF planet does he/she come from. Maybe it would be too much effort to try and help/assist. As I posted earlier, while on the flight from Heathrow had an unpleasant experience with a screaming baby, several people, me included tried to pacify the screaming baby, unfortunately to no avail. TBH his parents were more upset than most of the passengers, excluding a handful which included me. Thankfully the doors of the plane were securely locked as I did consider baling out at one point :eek:

on a plane, the thing that will make babies cry more than anything is the effect of changing in air pressure on their ears, and there's pretty much nothing that can be done until they're back on the ground. if the baby would suck on a pacifier it may help, but if the pain is too much, then that's not going to work. just bring earplugs!

Rho b

ballsymchugh wrote: »

on a plane, the thing that will make babies cry more than anything is the effect of changing in air pressure on their ears, and there's pretty much nothing that can be done until they're back on the ground. if the baby would suck on a pacifier it may help, but if the pain is too much, then that's not going to work. just bring earplugs!

In fairness I think we all understood the situation. It was not the babies fault, only a natural reaction, however extremely stressful for the helpless adults witnessing his discomfort.

ballsymchugh

Rho b wrote: »

In fairness I think we all understood the situation. It was not the babies fault, only a natural reaction, however extremely stressful for the helpless adults witnessing his discomfort.

in comparison to the short clip you see above, the kid isn't even picked up out of the pram. a hug could've done wonders in that situation.

Billy86

the merchant wrote: »

I initially came to this with a defensive "babies cry, you're on a bus ffs" attitude. But having watched the whole thing I'm with the driver. I feel he called the guards with the babies welfare in mind, not just because he'd "had enough".

Yeah, have to agree - I'm not going to say it was harrowing or whatnot, but a little distressing on top of EXTREMELY annoying (and imagine 50 mins of it after a sh*t day at work in the awful weather we had yesterday?). That could actually put the driver's focus off also, and he is kind of operating a vehicle with up to 92 people on it.

The child literally cried so much that he vomited on himself and in his own mouth, and the mother still just ignored it as if nothing was happening. That's pretty awful altogether.

SimonQuinlank

ballsymchugh wrote: »

in comparison to the short clip you see above, the kid isn't even picked up out of the pram. a hug could've done wonders in that situation.

Bit dodgy for the mam (who looks like she was standing) to safely pick the child out of the pram on a moving bus.It's easy enough to lose your balance just walking down the aisle to get off sometimes.Could have gave the kid a soother or something though.

Still very extreme to get the Garda involved,I've seen passengers report people smoking heroin and urinating on board to drivers before,and they couldn't have given less of a shíte.

Billy86

SimonQuinlank wrote: »

Bit dodgy for the mam (who looks like she was standing) to safely pick the child out of the pram on a moving bus.It's easy enough to lose your balance just walking down the aisle to get off sometimes.Could have gave the kid a soother or something though.

I'm sure the bus came to an occasional stop over those 50 minutes, both for traffic lights and... bus stop (of which there seems to be one ever 20 metres in Dublin, but that's another rant for another day).

Rascasse

Dublin Bus drivers are a law unto themselves. Reminds me of an incident when I was waiting for the last bus on the quays last winter. Driver pulls up a few minutes early but doesn't open the door until it says 1 minute on the board. Guy in front of me says something like "at last, you let us on", and the driver calls the guards. When they arrive he goes on about not being spoken to like that by the guy and won't leave until the he is removed. The rest of the us supports the driver but the driver continues to refuse to leave until the guy gets off.

Oranage2

Was the lady black with the crying baby?

Grayditch

He'll probably regret calling the Gardai, but you have to account for what state of mind you'd be in after 50 mins of that noise in traffic.

I don't know what the best solution was for him, to be honest, I just know I'd have to get off that bus, that's disturbing, and for 50 mins.

Grayditch

Oranage2 wrote: »

Was the lady black with the crying baby?

I'd say she's black all the time. What an odd question.

Rascasse

Grayditch wrote: »

He'll probably regret calling the Gardai, but you have to account for what state of mind you'd be in after 50 mins of that noise in traffic.

I don't know what the best solution was for him, to be honest, I just know I'd have to get off that bus, that's disturbing, and for 50 mins.

It'll be worth emailing DB tomorrow to see what the story is, hopefully their cameras record audio.

At the end of the day - don't want to listen to a baby crying all day? Don't become a bus driver.

Grayditch

Rascasse wrote: »

At the end of the day - don't want to listen to a baby crying all day? Don't become a bus driver.

I'm not sure it's that simple.

nbar12

Rho b wrote: »

About 15 years ago I was on a plane flight from Heathrow to Dublin with a couple who's baby was screaming it's head off for the whole flight. They were in the seats in front of me
I didn't call the Gardai or even the Air Hostess/Steward - ****e happens from time to time - teething etc.
And you do sound like that dope Kennedy

count yourself lucky you were only travelling London - Dublin. Last month I flew from NY to Dublin and I wish I was messing but the baby sat in front of me was crying extremely loud for 5 hours straight. The ringing in my ears are still present til this day

Rascasse

Grayditch wrote: »

I'm not sure it's that simple.

We'll see. If the CCTV doesn't show this woman abusing her child then the driver has to answer for his actions in calling the guards.

Oranage2

Grayditch wrote: »

I'd say she's black all the time. What an odd question.

Okay?

I was just would the driver call the police if she was white?

I've seen many a crying baby on a bus and never have I seen the police called, I just think it's odd.

Grayditch

Oranage2 wrote: »

I've seen many a crying baby on a bus and never have I seen the police called

Were they on the same bus as this particular driver?

Oranage2

[QdOTE=Grayditch;86835554]Were they on the same bus as this particular driver?[/QUOTE]

I can't be sure.

Grayditch

Oranage2 wrote: »

I can't be sure.

So are you saying you believe the driver is being racist?

Rascasse

SV wrote: »

Mother/Women in charge of the child sounds like a right bítch going by that video tbh.
Wouldn't pick the child up to comfor him/her? Cúnt.

She says it's because the child wants to crawl on the floor. I remember my mother ignoring my sister having a hissy fit for similar reasons on the bus, but then it was the early 80's, perhaps it was acceptable then? Does a mother need to do her utmost to comfort their children these days not to be a bitch?

Either way, I'm sure Dublin Bus will be aware of the incident by the morning and will take it from there.

Oranage2

Grayditch wrote: »

So are you saying you believe the driver is being racist?

Well I get the feeling it was race related if that's what you're asking. What crime did she commit?

The kid was having a tantrum, how many kids have you seen throw a tantrum in a super market and the parent just ignore it?

The driver was well out of line in my opinion!

colossus-x

SimonQuinlank wrote: »

Most drivers don't call the Garda for people playing crap music out loud or drinking or openly taking drugs on buses,but this driver has no bother calling them over a crying child.Bit odd.

I'd give you 1 out of 3 for that remark

canadianwoman

The baby sounded hungry or thirsty to me. From watching the video I could see that he wanted to be picked up as well.

colossus-x

Rascasse wrote: »

We'll see. If the CCTV doesn't show this woman abusing her child then the driver has to answer for his actions in calling the guards.

Rubbish. Calling the guards for any reason is not an offence.

Rascasse

colossus-x wrote: »

Rubbish. Calling the guards for any reason is not an offence.

I didn't say it was. However, Dublin Bus will be aware of the incident and (I hope) will check the CCTV to ensure drivers actions were appropriate. One does not call the guards for a crying baby.

colossus-x

At exactly 7:00 mins into video when mom starts to let rip the child suddenly shuts up and not a peep from him since then. Perhaps he felt uneasy at not hearing loud screaming noises as he might be accustomed to at home.

What this video does show though is that the mother is an absolute savage to f*** and blind like that in public. To be fair though I could see she was rocking the pram back and forth so didn't seem to be totally ignoring the child.

Fair play to the black lady who went out of her way to get up out of her seat and castigate the mother as she left. I'm also glad this woman was not white otherwise the racism card would be played here towards her.

Cody Pomeray

colossus-x wrote: »

Fair play to the black lady who went out of her way to get up out of her seat and castigate the mother as she left. I'm also glad this woman was not white otherwise the racism card would be played here towards her.

Maybe if she were white she wouldn't have felt the need to criticize.

I can imagine how that lady felt, sitting there at the top of the bus, feeling eyes boring into the back of her head, knowing people are thinking "typical Nigerians" or whatever.

A bit like Muslims who feel they have to go out of their way to show that they are "one of us", or Irish people who feel a special shame when they see an drunk Irish lout abroad. Sadly, people make ethnicity judgements all the time, even where it is irrelevant.

Lola18

I think after 15-20 minutes the mother should have been able to calm the baby, plenty of things to try without having the child out of the buggy! Feeding, holding his hand, try amuse him.
I know when a child acts up on a bus if she was alone it could have been difficult for her to manage but it's no excuse really because on a bus full of people you can always ask for a hand!

Teyla Emmagan

I'm with the bus driver. That child sounds sick and distraught to me. His mother needs to be questioned. Bus drivers put up with horrific stuff, they don't call the guards lightly.

I wonder how many people who say he overreacted thought that barman was totally right not to serve that pregnant woman last week?

Moneymaker

This is why you always bring a fully charged iPod or some sort of musical device every time you use any form of public transportation.

Grayditch

Oranage2 wrote: »

Well I get the feeling it was race related if that's what you're asking. What crime did she commit?

The kid was having a tantrum, how many kids have you seen throw a tantrum in a super market and the parent just ignore it?

The driver was well out of line in my opinion!

Still have no idea why you think it's race related without anything to back it up other than "she was black". Was the other black lady at the end who went out of her way to scream "BAD MOTHER" at her also a racist?