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Kona

  • 01-10-2013 7:48am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭


    So the big dance is 11 days away.

    Anyone know the full list of Irish on the start line?
    so far the ones i know are

    Matt Molloy
    Owen Martin
    Declan Doyle
    Niall somers
    Ivan O Gorman
    Martin Muldoon
    Rob Cummins

    Predictions for the pros?
    Am going with Andreas Raelart & Caroline Steffen. Would love to see PJ win again but he has had issues with injury this year so thats why i am going to go with AR.
    Cant wait!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,830 ✭✭✭catweazle


    John Joe Higgins from Galway qualified as well in IM Wales, not sure if that means he is going this year or next year!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭pgibbo


    catweazle wrote: »
    John Joe Higgins from Galway qualified as well in IM Wales, not sure if that means he is going this year or next year!

    He's going in 2014

    I'd love to see Raelert win it. I have a feeling Kienle might pull it off. Jacobs will be right up there too. He had a cracking 70.3 a couple of weeks ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭pgibbo


    Out of curiosity, how do people think Eneko Llanos will do in Kona? He's had a great season so far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭bryangiggsy


    pgibbo wrote: »
    He's going in 2014

    I'd love to see Raelert win it. I have a feeling Kienle might pull it off. Jacobs will be right up there too. He had a cracking 70.3 a couple of weeks ago.
    Raelert has been so close for so many years....i think this is it for him..last chance saloon. I think he will beat Kienle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,584 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    Bevan Docherty for the win.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 455 ✭✭Brick Session


    Viewing on Ironmanlive.com I presume???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭bryangiggsy


    Viewing on Ironmanlive.com I presume???

    Yep. coverage is normally quite good for Kona as opposed to other races.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,584 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    Yep. coverage is normally quite good for Kona as opposed to other races.

    WuHoooooo we can have a Kona party at the Day-After-The-Wedding party in Dolan's parents. Cue me getting pissed and going - "haha you could have been there."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭pgibbo


    Given that Mirinda Carfrae is back with Siri this year, she must be a threat even if she is flying under the radar a little?

    I wonder will the drafting issues of last years race occur again this year for the women?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76 ✭✭Diesel


    Taken from : http://www.tri247.com/article_12123.html

    I count 10, there may be more hiding in the list though...

    Niall Somers
    David Condon
    Martin Muldoon
    Declan Doyle
    Matt Molloy
    Robert Cummins
    Alistair Duffield
    Ian Kennedy
    Owen Martin
    Robert Wormald


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,238 ✭✭✭Abhainn


    I see Ramsay (Gordon) will be in Kona.
    Any one know how he earned his entry?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭pgibbo


    WTC gave him an entry. There was some heated debate over on ST about it :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,238 ✭✭✭Abhainn


    pgibbo wrote: »
    WTC gave him an entry.

    FFS


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 455 ✭✭Brick Session


    Its all about the publicity, WTC is a commercial entity and the athletes come way down the line in the scheme of things.

    From what I can gather Gordon Ramsey is into triathlon and he really should have earned his spot like everyone else but hey, if WTC gave you a spot for free would you say no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,238 ✭✭✭Abhainn


    Its all about the publicity, WTC is a commercial entity and the athletes come way down the line in the scheme of things.

    From what I can gather Gordon Ramsey is into triathlon and he really should have earned his spot like everyone else but hey, if WTC gave you a spot for free would you say no?

    GR may be into triathlon now but since when? From the interview I seen it seemed he only got into it in the last year. Will be interesting to see if he can finish inside 17hrs. He found the 70.3 in Vegas tough

    But fair play to WTC initiating the lottery program for those that have completed 12 IM's. But when you see the effort the mere mortals take never to get there and then see the free offerings to those like him:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,584 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    Abhainn wrote: »
    GR may be into triathlon now but since when? From the interview I seen it seemed he only got into it in the last year. Will be interesting to see if he can finish inside 17hrs. He found the 70.3 in Vegas tough

    But fair play to WTC initiating the lottery program for those that have completed 12 IM's. But when you see the effort the mere mortals take never to get there and then see the free offerings to those like him:mad:

    Ramsay has been doing it for years and has completed a number of ironman events.

    He is as justified being there as any lottery or roll down person.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭pgibbo


    Will this trend continue or will Bevan buck the trend?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭bryangiggsy


    tunney wrote: »
    Ramsay has been doing it for years and has completed a number of ironman events.

    He is as justified being there as any lottery or roll down person.

    What a kick in the nuts to the roll downs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,359 ✭✭✭peter kern


    pgibbo wrote: »
    Will this trend continue or will Bevan buck the trend?
    using the stats the chance is extremly high that a german is going to win given the fact 2nd and 4th place won kona 13en times in the last 16 years.
    But if you can swim like jacobs. bike like jacobs last year (and when jacobs was young his bike was stronger than his run) and realisically are the fastest runner in the top 5 ,you got to be the top favorite

    At the same time if you did well at the athens olympics you are likely to do well in kona as you are strong. ( i guess andreas relart was somewhere 6-8 th in athens so docherty in a good chance to do what ralert alexander or even luc van lierde did in their first kona ) i guess docherty is the dark horse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,238 ✭✭✭Abhainn


    tunney wrote: »
    Ramsay has been doing it for years and has completed a number of ironman events.

    IM 140.6? Doubt it
    His best days have been around the VLM a no. of times. The wife beat him by 20 mins in 2012.
    tunney wrote: »
    He is as justified being there as any lottery or roll down person.

    Ah crap. I almost fell for it.
    That's the best I've seen in a while. Nice one


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,469 ✭✭✭Shedite27


    Abhainn wrote: »
    GR may be into triathlon now but since when? From the interview I seen it seemed he only got into it in the last year. Will be interesting to see if he can finish inside 17hrs. He found the 70.3 in Vegas tough
    He finished 70.3 in Vegas in 6:38 - should be comfortably able to get under 17hrs no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,359 ✭✭✭peter kern


    what happens ramsey and this nascar driver get talked aobut more than anybody else bare the top 5 pros so why should they not let them in if it gets the punter excited about them
    Only if they get ingnored whill they not be invited again ;-)
    this thread shows they are doing the right thing.

    how much money would ironman have to spend to get the same publicity?
    so i would think its the best investment they can do for 1300$ to get more punters for their races.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭bryangiggsy




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 455 ✭✭Brick Session


    I once asked a real Master Chef friend of mine what he thought of Gordon Ramsay when he first appeared on our screens with the dramatic shows.

    His reply was a very simple €400 million. I think he meant that Ramsay was a successful business person as well as colourful for television. Like him or not, he attracts viewers to screens and that's what TV is all about, the Ratings. Apart from the top 5 pro's in each category and the Irish athletes be honest now but will any of us give a hoot about the other 1670 odd participants, honestly now?

    But we will all be curious about how Ramsay does, it might just be to say "Wow I didn't think her would do that time" or it might be " See I told you he would miss the cut off" Either way he will attract a huge interest and as Peter has said anything that promotes our beloved sport or gets it more media coverage can only be a good thing.

    If you look at that ridiculous and uninformed article written in the Guardian Newspaper after the recent World Championships in London you would have to think that the public in general would read that and come away with a very one sided and ignorant view of triathlon. Its very possible that Gordon Ramsay being such a high profile British Celebrity might just be featured in a lot of Media publications that possibly will promote the sport in a positive light therefore educating the masses on the delights of Triathlon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭bopperr


    Hines Ward is doing it also!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭bryangiggsy


    bopperr wrote: »
    Hines Ward is doing it also!!!


    For those who dont know who he is ..hes an ex american football player and mvp for the Pittsburgh steelers. He was a wide receiver. And his inclusion has brough a lot of notoriety of triathlon to the national game as he now broadcasts for NBC


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭Izoard


    Was watching a feature on IM Western Australia, on the way down to Jo'burg overnight.
    Mat Rogers, ex- Aussie Rugby League and Union "legend" was doing his first IM and getting a lot of coverage.

    In T1, there is a camera in his face..

    Reporter: "So, Mat...how was the swim?"
    Mat: "Someone's gone and robbed my nutrition - the bento box is gone!!!"

    Happens to the best of us, I guess....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,830 ✭✭✭catweazle


    Izoard wrote: »
    Was watching a feature on IM Western Australia, on the way down to Jo'burg overnight.
    Mat Rogers, ex- Aussie Rugby League and Union "legend" was doing his first IM and getting a lot of coverage.

    Ah Mattie Rogers - I always remember him from another triathlon great Josh Lewseys hit on him. He was mouthing off to Josh all match and was rewarded by getting a hospital pass from his winger



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭EC1000


    catweazle wrote: »
    Ah Mattie Rogers - I always remember him from another triathlon great Josh Lewseys hit on him. He was mouthing off to Josh all match and was rewarded by getting a hospital pass from his winger

    And the pass was forward :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭bopperr




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,584 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    Docherty 12/1 - worth a punt


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Kienle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,359 ✭✭✭peter kern


    itnteresting quotes, i guess i invest my 20 euro in paddy power....
    docherty only decent one.
    When a 28 year old athlete gets 11th in 2012 ( after stuffing up altitude training in kona prep) i cant see how he can be downgraded to 17th in 2013 .
    suprised they dont have cummana on the list at alll as well as rana.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭Kurt Godel


    tunney wrote: »
    Docherty 12/1 - worth a punt

    Down to 7/1 now- did everyone from here take a punt?:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭pgibbo


    It looks like at least one of the Irish contingent featured in the photos of the underpants run on Triathlete Europe :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭bryangiggsy


    Getting excited now. Got the e fibre in and will be watching it on the 32 inch tv instead of the laptop this yr. deadly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭centre back


    Getting excited now. Got the e fibre in and will be watching it on the 32 inch tv instead of the laptop this yr. deadly.

    Any websites guys,watched it here Canada last year after getting the site from boards any help is welcome


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭bryangiggsy


    Any websites guys,watched it here Canada last year after getting the site from boards any help is welcome

    Ironman.com i believe is the only place you can watch it live.


    I just threw €10 on AR @ 7/1. Checked 20 secs later and because of my 10 euro bet he moved into 9/2. Wonder if they will have betting in running. Oppurtunity knocks perhaps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,468 ✭✭✭sconhome


    Any websites guys,watched it here Canada last year after getting the site from boards any help is welcome

    Not sure, but there is something of a Livestream event organised. No idea if they are any use whether they show race action or just commentator action.

    http://new.livestream.com/ironman/imkona


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    Does it actually start at 5 or is it just coverage that starts at 5?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,468 ✭✭✭sconhome


    Not sure, but there is something of a Livestream event organised. No idea if they are any use whether they show race action or just commentator action.

    http://new.livestream.com/ironman/imkona

    ^^ Looks like a sh1t link, sorry. :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,468 ✭✭✭sconhome


    Does it actually start at 5 or is it just coverage that starts at 5?

    Pros off at 5:30 AG off at 6pm AFAIK


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,055 ✭✭✭Mr.Fred


    What's Gordon Ramsey doin there????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,818 ✭✭✭nerraw1111


    http://new.livestream.com/ironman/imkona

    This link is working. Apparently the water is v flat, so expecting fast swim times.

    I think the pros are off at 5.30pm and then 6pm for Gordon Ramsey. Potts is out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,055 ✭✭✭Mr.Fred


    Swim conditions look perfect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 356 ✭✭kal7


    light wind, flat water could be very fast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,635 ✭✭✭miller82


    kal7 wrote: »
    light wind, flat water could be very fast.

    That Potts lad is a head melter


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    heinz ward has a fridge full of chocolate milk which tastes great.

    that's one of the most cringeworthy interviews i've seen in a while


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,238 ✭✭✭Abhainn


    Irish boys Molloy, Martin, Muldoon, Cummins all going very well. Each one has improved swim time on 2012.
    Bike conditions looking very fast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,184 ✭✭✭El Director


    1:21 swim from Gordon Ramsay...not too bloody shabby.


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