How 5 countries in the Middle East could become 14

Itwasntme.

Huh? Maybe I am just tired but huh? I don't even want to imagine the chaos that would be born as a result of the new borders. Is this a real possibility?

Edit: Sorry

questionmark?

Am would you care to elaborate on that a little.

Itwasntme.

questionmark? wrote: »

Am would you care to elaborate on that a little.

I accidentally linked to a page I had linked to in another thread . I've edited it.

Richard Hillman

You have to feel for the people of Shiitestan. It would be very hard for the tourist board to sell the place. Not a problem that the tourist board of Sunnistan will face.

AlmightyCushion

Just seen South Iraq will become Shiitestan. Surely, they could come up with a better name.

Manach

Or the reverse could happen - ie a power akin to the historical Ottoman empire re-uniting the Arab world into one political unit - akin to the former short-lived Eygpt/Syria alliance in the 60s.

Archeron

Cool, nine new attendees for the not-very-Eurovision song contest. My money's on east Arabia next year. I hear مريم من فلاهرتي is singing أوه كم أحب جسور إيوروبس.

Carlos Orange

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Just seen South Iraq will become Shiitestan. Surely, they could come up with a better name.

How about Iran.

Panthro

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Just seen South Iraq will become Shiitestan. Surely, they could come up with a better name.

What a name!:pac:
Stan: "hey Steve, you hear we could be divided into a whole load of different countries?"
Steve: "What, no way?"
Stan:"Yes way Steve"
Steve:"Aww...That would be Shiite Stan"

(Just then..a Government representative tasked with the job of coming up with a few names for these proposed new countries walked by..He overhead Stan and Steve's conversation..."ShiiteStan" he thought.."that could work"..)

Karl Stein

Elements within the US had an eerily similar proposal some time ago.

mike65

I'd prefer they became one big country then the west could finally bomb the **** out of it and then we'd all get some PEACE! :mad: :pac:

Banjo String

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Nodin

Itwasntme. wrote: »

Huh? Maybe I am just tired but huh? I don't even want to imagine the chaos that would be born as a result of the new borders. Is this a real possibility?

With the Kurds, certainly its not far fetched a notion. These current borders aren't that old, or based on ethnic/nationalistic/sectarian lines either.

Zebra3

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/06/winstons-hiccup/

Interesting article given the thread.

Overheal

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Just seen South Iraq will become Shiitestan. Surely, they could come up with a better name.

Ishiiteabad?

TheChizler

Panthro wrote: »

What a name!:pac:
Stan: "hey Steve, you hear we could be divided into a whole load of different countries?"
Steve: "What, no way?"
Stan:"Yes way Steve"
Steve:"Aww...That would be Shiite Stan"

It's ok, in a few years it will be All Allright Stan...

the_syco

Overheal wrote: »

Ishiiteabad?

I laughed

=-=

It'll divide into 14, and then into 8, when a few of areas get taken over by neighbouring countries.

kowloon

'Tis a silly place.

onemorechance

Richard Hillman wrote: »

You have to feel for the people of Shiitestan. It would be very hard for the tourist board to sell the place. Not a problem that the tourist board of Sunnistan will face.

...
And the south becomes Shiitestan. It’s not likely to be so clean.

:pac:

MonaPizza

Itwasntme. wrote: »

Huh? Maybe I am just tired but huh? I don't even want to imagine the chaos that would be born as a result of the new borders. Is this a real possibility?

Edit: Sorry

What American ARSEHOLE dreamt up that?

"Wahaabistan! !!! ? ?

Surprised the cretin didn't come up with a sea port and call it "Sand-Landia", then backtrack and call it "Sandistan" (sounds more Middle eastern)

Dopey cnuts!

returnNull

Banjo String wrote: »

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no,you cant blow stuff up.

MonaPizza

Gotta love the borders that were dreamt up too. Take a look at "Wahhabistan" and "South Arabia" ........ who the hell drew that line of nonsense through a bunch of sand dunes?

Pherekydes

We could finally get rid of Cork! Move it to the middle-east and call it Cockistan.

mike65

MonaPizza wrote: »

What American ARSEHOLE dreamt up that?

"Wahaabistan! !!! ? ?

Surprised the cretin didn't come up with a sea port and call it "Sand-Landia", then backtrack and call it "Sandistan" (sounds more Middle eastern)

Dopey cnuts!

A derivation of Wahhabi I suppose.

Alias G

Why do North Yemen and South Yemen exist on an East - West axis?

Capt'n Midnight

As recently as 1911 they were all part of the Ottoman empire.

Capt'n Midnight

Turkey won't allow an independent Kurdistan. Nor would the other neighbours be happy about it.

Shiiteistan - could any see that merging / getting annexed by Iran ?

bizmark

Im sure that would do wonders for the stability of a historically super stable region of the world.

Mind youif it happens i wonder what would happen to places like Nigeria large country with a tribal mentality (according to a nigerian iv spoken to) and various religions

Capt'n Midnight

bizmark wrote: »

Mind youif it happens i wonder what would happen to places like Nigeria large country with a tribal mentality (according to a nigerian iv spoken to) and various religions

Put it this way last time it happened up to three million people died out of a population of fourteen million.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_Civil_War#Aftermath_and_legacy

feargale

Archeron wrote: »

Cool, nine new attendees for the not-very-Eurovision song contest. My money's on east Arabia next year. I hear مريم من فلاهرتي is singing أوه كم أحب جسور إيوروبس.

How do you write Arabic on boards? Seriously

feargale

mike65 wrote: »

I'd prefer they became one big country then the west could finally bomb the **** out of it and then we'd all get some PEACE! :mad: :pac:

That's not nice. Ever heard of the Butterfly Effect?

Pushtrak

I read something on this stuff a while back: http://www.globalresearch.ca/plans-for-redrawing-the-middle-east-the-project-for-a-new-middle-east/3882

Kinda reminds me of stuff I'd read about Africa some time back. I don't have any links to that on hand though.

It's easy to forget that until quite recently, most Arab "countries" were actually city states and the desert between them was considered to be a bit like the oceans are considered today, IOW the unoccupied desert land belonged to no one.

hmmm

Most of the boundaries of the Arab countries were arbitrarily drawn up by the British and the French in the early 20th century. They're a mismash of tribes mashed together.

The prospect of having a country called Shiiteistan may hold them together however.

wretcheddomain

hmmm wrote: »

Most of the boundaries of the Arab countries were arbitrarily drawn up by the British and the French in the early 20th century. They're a mismash of tribes mashed together.

The prospect of having a country called Shiiteistan may hold them together however.

Jordan should be re-named Katie

Iraq should be re-named Alqaedastan

...and Qatar should be re-named Petrol Station

BillyMitchel

Itwasntme. wrote: »

Huh? Maybe I am just tired but huh? I don't even want to imagine the chaos that would be born as a result of the new borders. Is this a real possibility?

Edit: Sorry

Lads we got ourselves a crack head!

Freddy Smelly

Richard Hillman wrote: »

You have to feel for the people of Shiitestan. It would be very hard for the tourist board to sell the place. Not a problem that the tourist board of Sunnistan will face.

what about jihadistan? surely there would be no safe airplane out of there

Karl Stein

The balkanization of countries is a great way of larger states controlling smaller ones. At the moment the US/West can't control Russia or China because they are large and relatively powerful.

If the US/West was able to fracture these countries into smaller competing territories it could ensure its own pre-eminence. That's why the US lends legitimacy to Uyghur separatists in China and terrorists on the flanks of Russia and Iran.

Check out the New Great Game for further understanding.

Carlos Roca

Carlos Roca wrote: »

The balkanization of countries is a great way of larger states controlling smaller ones. At the moment the US/West can't control Russia or China because they are large and relatively powerful.

If the US/West was able to fracture these countries into smaller competing territories it could ensure its own pre-eminence. That's why the US lends legitimacy to Uyghur separatists in China and terrorists on the flanks of Russia and Iran.

Check out the New Great Game for further understanding.

'Tis but one option. Setting up a state with either minority government installed or that'll be split 50-50 for the foreseeable future is another good one.

Karl Stein

Deleted User wrote: »

'Tis but one option. Setting up a state with either minority government installed or that'll be split 50-50 for the foreseeable future is another good one.

Yes but it's much easier to empower a minority in a small state that it is in a larger one. Ultimately it about the top-down control of people regardless of where they're from. The elites, the oligarchs, the despots, they're all obsessed with retaining power and feathering their own nests.

All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.

Adam Smith

Carlos Roca

Carlos Roca wrote: »

Yes but it's much easier to empower a minority in a small state that it is in a larger one.

No doubt but it can be handy just to keep a state of eternal conflict going while raping the land in the background. It allows a bit of plausible deniability whereas supporting an obviously minority government doesn't.

Sigourney

Banjo String wrote: »

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أصابع الإبل

Archeron

feargale wrote: »

How do you write Arabic on boards? Seriously

Google translate then copy and paste.

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General General

If this happens, there'll be a lot of nice business opportunities.

More borders means more need for some kind of device that can tell if there are any explosives or contraband or whatever in any crossing vehicles, a hand-held device, something that doesn't require the user has to get too close to whatever it is that the user is examining.

Fedal

Carlos Roca wrote: »

The balkanization of countries is a great way of larger states controlling smaller ones. At the moment the US/West can't control Russia or China because they are large and relatively powerful.

If the US/West was able to fracture these countries into smaller competing territories it could ensure its own pre-eminence. That's why the US lends legitimacy to Uyghur separatists in China and terrorists on the flanks of Russia and Iran.

Check out the New Great Game for further understanding.

The old divide and conquer.