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Sparrowhawk killed and left hanging in Meath

  • 28-09-2013 1:43am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭


    http://www.thejournal.ie/bird-killed-meath-1104611-Sep2013/

    AN APPEAL HAS been issued after a bird of prey was illegally shot in the Rathkenny area of Co Meath, close to Navan.

    Fuckers.

    Anyone with any info please contact the Navan office of the National Parks and Wildlife Service on 076 100 2636. Presumably in confidence.


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  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Animals.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    I hope the dribbling moron who did that isn't a parent so its moron-genes don't get passed on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭crockholm


    Bad form. A beautiful bird.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I don't get the point like. Was it near a bus-stop? Like who's it showing off to? There's not even the usual bull**** farmer excuse about targeting livestock.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,109 ✭✭✭RikkFlair


    Whoever did that is a waste of oxegen.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    I wonder does the creature who did that class itself as a 'hunter'...


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I wonder does the creature who did that class itself as a 'hunter'...
    Nah, more of a ninja.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 358 ✭✭Weevil


    Being an arse-hole has never been a a problem in this retarded ****-hole of a country-
    http://www.irelandswildlife.com/email-to-cllr-john-sheahan-re-open-season-on-hen-harriers-statement/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,493 ✭✭✭✭McDermotX


    I don't get the point like. Was it near a bus-stop? Like who's it showing off to? There's not even the usual bull**** farmer excuse about targeting livestock.

    It's to send a message to other Sparrowhawks who might try to live their lives on their land.......................



    That'll learn 'em.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭Nabber


    Obvious mistaken identity in the on going drug feud.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭valknut


    Terrible, hopefully a bit of karma will serve the perpetrator(s) of this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    This is a bit shocking.
    http://www.rpra.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Songbirds-Sticker.pdf
    With these kind of stickers around its as if they are trying to persecute them.

    Apologies to dodderangler I know he posts here, but this was on another forum.

    I'm gobsmacked that a bird fanciers organisation would advocate shooting protected raptors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 443 ✭✭Elbaston


    MadsL wrote: »
    http://www.thejournal.ie/bird-killed-meath-1104611-Sep2013/

    AN APPEAL HAS been issued after a bird of prey was illegally shot in the Rathkenny area of Co Meath, close to Navan.

    Fuckers.

    Anyone with any info please contact the Navan office of the National Parks and Wildlife Service on 076 100 2636. Presumably in confidence.

    See I told you tighter gun control is needed. :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 86 ✭✭guillespe


    He should be shot and hung like he did that rare bird..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Elbaston wrote: »
    See I told you tighter gun control is needed. :pac:

    Tighter idiot control more like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    http://www.rpra.org/raptor-alliance/

    Couldn't make it up.

    Racing pigeons as 'livestock'. :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭GalwayGuy2


    It's not nice, but what's the big deal?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    GalwayGuy2 wrote: »
    It's not nice, but what's the big deal?

    It's a protected native bird.
    Big deal is it was shot. I doubt there's anyone out there including gun clubs who'd shoot a sparrowhawk.
    I'd be looking more towards pigeon owners.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,056 ✭✭✭_Redzer_


    Was this the case of another retarded farmer who thought the bird would have somehow flown away with his sheep otherwise?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    _Redzer_ wrote: »
    Was this the case of another retarded farmer who thought the bird would have somehow flown away with his sheep otherwise?

    Doubtful
    Farmers are well known of sparrowhawks and know they pose no threat to their livestock.
    I'd be surprised if one even went near a chicken. Maybe a chick.
    I'm sticking to my gut instinct and saying it was a pigeon owner


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,056 ✭✭✭_Redzer_


    Doubtful
    Farmers are well known of sparrowhawks and know they pose no threat to their livestock.
    I'd be surprised if one even went near a chicken. Maybe a chick.
    I'm sticking to my gut instinct and saying it was a pigeon owner

    They already do it to eagles so I'd wouldn't surprise me tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭Vizzy


    I wonder how the rspa would feel if people went around shooting their "flying rats" ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    _Redzer_ wrote: »
    They already do it to eagles so I'd wouldn't surprise me tbh

    Difference with an eagle and a sparrowhawk is a hell of a size and weight difference.
    An eagle would certainly take a lamb if it was really desperate but a sparrowhawk?
    No. The farmers around there wouldn't do that and certainly wouldn't hang it up either


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Vizzy wrote: »
    I wonder how the rspa would feel if people went around shooting their "flying rats" ?

    Don't tempt me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 443 ✭✭Elbaston


    Difference with an eagle and a sparrowhawk is a hell of a size and weight difference.
    An eagle would certainly take a lamb if it was really desperate but a sparrowhawk?
    No. The farmers around there wouldn't do that and certainly wouldn't hang it up either

    Wait ... what now ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Elbaston wrote: »
    Wait ... what now ??

    You've seen the videos of eagles taking goats and dragging them off cliffs Havint you??
    An eagle hungry enough would take a young lamb. I'm not going to deny it but more are taken by foxes or killed by rooks pecking their eyes out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Vizzy wrote: »
    I wonder how the rspa would feel if people went around shooting their "flying rats" ?

    Shooting them would probably cost me too much.
    An oul ferret in a pigeon loft would be quicker :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Its really simple, you hammer the scumbags who do it. Start with the pigeon fanciers and every gun owner in a 50 mile radius

    By Bye all your pigeons and Bye Bye all your guns for the next six months. They'll get the message eventually.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,056 ✭✭✭_Redzer_


    Difference with an eagle and a sparrowhawk is a hell of a size and weight difference.
    An eagle would certainly take a lamb if it was really desperate but a sparrowhawk?
    No. The farmers around there wouldn't do that and certainly wouldn't hang it up either

    No it physically couldn't. Only gobshítes believe that. Wanna prove it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    _Redzer_ wrote: »
    No it physically couldn't. Only gobshítes believe that. Wanna prove it?

    Hold on. Golden eagles hunt wolves and deer but your saying they wouldn't take a golden eagle?
    Are u sh1ttin me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 443 ✭✭Elbaston


    You've seen the videos of eagles taking goats and dragging them off cliffs Havint you??
    An eagle hungry enough would take a young lamb. I'm not going to deny it but more are taken by foxes or killed by rooks pecking their eyes out.


    What you mean fly off carrying it like its some kind of take away ??

    Like some fat kid on a hang-glider shooting past a doughnut tree ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭Vizzy


    Shooting them would probably cost me too much.
    An oul ferret in a pigeon loft would be quicker :)

    You think that this is bad, we had 2 peregrines shot at 2 separate locations about 3 months ago. Shot with a rifle. Guy who did it is known but nothing can be proved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Vizzy wrote: »
    You think that this is bad, we had 2 peregrines shot at 2 separate locations about 3 months ago. Shot with a rifle. Guy who did it is known but nothing can be proved.

    Can have his license renewal refused by the local super one would imagine :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,056 ✭✭✭_Redzer_


    Hold on. Golden eagles hunt wolves and deer but your saying they wouldn't take a golden eagle?
    Are u sh1ttin me

    Yeah because you see golden eagles flying off with deer and wolves all the time don't you?

    They don't hunt them, they scavenge off them if they've the chance. An eagle can't kill a wolf or deer. It's ridiculous to believe they can.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    People seem a bit quick to be pinning blame on specific groups. That never helps in these matters..

    groups blamed so far -
    • farmers
    • pigeon fanciers
    • gun owners
    • hunters

    Where's the sense in that when it's clearly just an individual or a few of them that's responsible? =/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭Vizzy


    Bambi wrote: »
    Can have his license renewal refused by the local super one would imagine :confused:

    Absolutely, but on what grounds ? Cos the Super thinks that he might have used the rifle improperly and then possibly get sued ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    its a bird like...jesus christ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Depp wrote: »
    its a bird like...jesus christ...

    It's a protected bird.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    _Redzer_ wrote: »
    Yeah because you see golden eagles flying off with deer and wolves all the time don't you?

    They don't hunt them, they scavenge off them if they've the chance. An eagle can't kill a wolf or deer. It's ridiculous to believe they can.

    Yes they Jesus have you wen hidin in a hole somewhere.
    Hunting wolves with golden eagles is a right of passage for a young Mongolian.
    They also hunt foxes with them.
    And as for deer. It's just as easy.
    http://youtu.be/vuh8uoc_dLA
    Don't talk it if you can't back it up.
    As someone who does falconry I can tell you they can


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    MadsL wrote: »
    It's a protected bird.

    And they're our natural heritage.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭Vizzy


    Yes they Jesus have you wen hidin in a hole somewhere.
    Hunting wolves with golden eagles is a right of passage for a young Mongolian.
    They also hunt foxes with them.
    And as for deer. It's just as easy.
    http://youtu.be/vuh8uoc_dLA
    Don't talk it if you can't back it up.
    As someone who does falconry I can tell you they can

    Ah sure that is only on youtube, you must be making it up :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Vizzy wrote: »
    Ah sure that is only on youtube, you must be making it up :D:D

    Yeah I must be :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,573 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Bambi wrote: »
    Its really simple, you hammer the scumbags who do it. Start with the pigeon fanciers and every gun owner in a 50 mile radius

    By Bye all your pigeons and Bye Bye all your guns for the next six months. They'll get the message eventually.

    Why should all the pigeons in a 50 mile radius suffer for the idiocy of one person? Have I misunderstood your post? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    kowloon wrote: »
    Why should all the pigeons in a 50 mile radius suffer for the idiocy of one person? Have I misunderstood your post? :confused:

    Think he means they'd lose their pigeons and licence to keep them or something.
    It's against the law to kill a protected bird esp a bop


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    If anyone ever goes to Tanzania be sure to visit Ngorongoro crater. It's a conservation area full of lions, leopards, hippos, elephants and baboons.
    Anyway the Masai tribes herd cattle in the middle of all these animals and don't seem to go around killing anything that frightens them.

    Then we have Ireland. Some farmers, hunters, fishermen and pigeon fanicers here have expressed fright at "Eagles, hawks, pine martins, seals, kites and badgers.

    Pathetic lads f-ing pathetic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    kowloon wrote: »
    Why should all the pigeons in a 50 mile radius suffer for the idiocy of one person? Have I misunderstood your post? :confused:

    because its the dozy gickna breeders who have it in for birds of prey. They put one of our hawks on a post we but put a thousand of their vermin racers down. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭TheBegotten


    Didn't think sparrowhawks were particularly rare...I mean they eat sparrows, and THOSE are ten a penny. One flew into (but not through) our living room window and died from the shock.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    MadsL wrote: »
    It's a protected bird.

    Not really, judging by the thread title


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Didn't think sparrowhawks were particularly rare...I mean they eat sparrows, and THOSE are ten a penny. One flew into (but not through) our living room window and died from the shock.

    I know they're called sparrowhawks but they'd take sparrows, starlings, blackbirds, thrushes.
    Females would be the same plus some pigeon, crows/jackdaws and magpies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Anyway the Masai tribes herd cattle in the middle of all these animals and don't seem to go around killing anything that frightens them.

    Then we have Ireland.

    They also sometimes 'marry', starve and/or mutilate prepubescent children as a matter of tradition.. they regularly reject modernity and progress in medicine, social cares and education.

    You're not seriously suggesting that they are somehow more civilised than us just because one idiot here decided to shoot a flipping sparrowhawk?

    Some people genuinely seem more outraged by this story than they ever do in the almost weekly stories of mass murder in the western world or murders carried out by us on others. Bizarre as all hell really.


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