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Dating Question

  • 27-09-2013 11:17pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 207 ✭✭


    Can someone tell me why that on a date, a man is the one who's expected to pay, drive, etc?? I'm not saying we all don't already know. But I would just like it be bluntly put out in the open for what it is for once. It would be interesting to see if people have the same.. or different reasons for it.


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Can someone tell me why that on a date, a man is the one who's expected to pay, drive, etc?? I'm not saying we all don't already know. But I would just like it be bluntly put out in the open for what it is for once. It would be interesting to see if people have the same.. or different reasons for it.

    Are you that bloke who was on about never getting a shag a few weeks ago?

    If you are, did you not learn anything from the MANY pages of advice you got?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    What happens if two lesbians go on a date?, nobody pays?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,785 ✭✭✭Ihatecuddles-old


    I never expect the guy to pay. I feel uncomfortable if he does actually.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 207 ✭✭StrugglingSoul


    Stheno wrote: »
    Are you that bloke who was on about never getting a shag a few weeks ago?

    If you are, did you not learn anything from the MANY pages of advice you got?

    Avoiding the point of the thread. The nonsense I'd expect!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,973 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    Can someone tell me why that on a date, a man is the one who's expected to pay, drive, etc?? I'm not saying we all don't already know. But I would just like it be bluntly put out in the open for what it is for once. It would be interesting to see if people have the same.. or different reasons for it.

    Get out of the 20th century, fool! These days the man only needs to provide the sex. Happy days!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭lahalane


    I assume its a tradition kept going from when men were seen as the breadwinners :-\


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 207 ✭✭StrugglingSoul


    Get out of the 20th century, fool! These days the man only needs to provide the sex. Happy days!

    But isn't it really the girl providing that!


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Avoiding the point of the thread. The nonsense I'd expect!

    You've obviously learned nothing, and are still just as immature in your attitude.

    I'd never expect to be "taken out", even after five years, my OH and I split dates in that I pay once, he pays another, when we first started dating we split the bills.

    He drives if I've had a drink as he doesn't drive, but I usually drive to the venue.

    So pretty much the opposite of your op


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,607 ✭✭✭Meauldsegosha


    I never expect a man to pay for me. I have my own money and I'm well capable of paying for myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,305 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Prodston


    Avoiding the point of the thread. The nonsense I'd expect!

    Then why ask?

    To answer bluntly like you asked and to get straight to the point I'd imagine it comes from the age old adage of chivalry.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    wazky wrote: »
    What happens if two lesbians go on a date?, nobody pays?

    The Butch one pays.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭nikpmup


    Ditto, I pay my way, always have done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭racso1975


    lahalane wrote: »
    I assume its a tradition kept going from when men were seen as the breadwinners :-\
    Of all the ****ty things i have won it has never been bread!!!! My life sucks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,973 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    But isn't it really the girl providing that!

    Its the man that does all the work.

    (its bad form to ask a girl to go on top the first time, chivalry isn't dead yet)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,998 ✭✭✭Dr Turk Turkelton


    kneemos wrote: »
    The Butch one pays.

    But there is never a butch one in the films I watch?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭Vincent Vega


    Can someone tell me why that on a date, a man is the one who's expected to pay, drive, etc??

    Societal stoneage expectations?
    It should be either go halves or an I treat you/you treat me sorta thing.
    If it's neither, they probably aren't worth the time or money.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    But there is never a butch one in the films I watch?

    I assume they aren't eating a standard dinner in the films you watch either?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    Best thing to do in these circumstances is a legger, unless you abide by the rulebook that is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 560 ✭✭✭markomuscle


    because women are as tight as a bodybuilders t-shirt, especially irish women


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,952 ✭✭✭Lando Griffin


    Stheno wrote: »
    Are you that bloke who was on about never getting a shag a few weeks ago?

    If you are, did you not learn anything from the MANY pages of advice you got?

    That might have been me actually.
    BOT: The man traditionally was the bread winner so the only one with money to pay for ones dinner


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,785 ✭✭✭Ihatecuddles-old


    Its the man that does all the work.

    (its bad form to ask a girl to go on top the first time, chivalry isn't dead yet)

    Or to tie a knot in the condom after!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,973 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    Or to tie a knot in the condom after!

    Nevermind that. Straight into the fire to hear it sizzle


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,785 ✭✭✭Ihatecuddles-old


    because women are as tight as a bodybuilders t-shirt, especially irish women

    I'm the complete opposite. I am constantly buying my boyfriend things I know he'd like, or things to make him laugh.

    We always do rounds, take turns getting dinner and taxis.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    Can someone tell me why that on a date, a man is the one who's expected to pay, drive, etc?? I'm not saying we all don't already know. But I would just like it be bluntly put out in the open for what it is for once. It would be interesting to see if people have the same.. or different reasons for it.


    Women are only equal when it suits them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    I'd let a lady buy me dinner and a glass of wine any day of the week. Wouldn't refuse a man doing it for me either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    because women are as tight as a bodybuilders t-shirt, especially irish women

    That could be misconstrued as a compliment, muscle man.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    Its got to be worth at least a hand job


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    But there is never a butch one in the films I watch?

    Wrong movies pal! Don't you miss the dominatrix girl on girl action?
    I'm the complete opposite. I am constantly buying my boyfriend things I know he'd like, or things to make him laugh.

    We always do rounds, take turns getting dinner and taxis.

    Same here, one pays for dinner, another for smokes type of thing, it's a joke at this stage, but started out as a habit. "Do you need anything in the shop?"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,785 ✭✭✭Ihatecuddles-old


    Nevermind that. Straight into the fire to hear it sizzle

    http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_meht5gR1nw1qjxkg2.gif


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,973 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole



    I watched that a few times in the hope of seeing a full condom going into the fire. but left disappointed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,785 ✭✭✭Ihatecuddles-old


    Stheno wrote: »
    Same here, one pays for dinner, another for smokes type of thing, it's a joke at this stage, but started out as a habit. "Do you need anything in the shop?"

    I have to laugh at him sometimes, Id ask does he want anything in the shop and he'd say his wallet is at home, and Im just looking at him like :confused:

    As if he wouldnt get them for me!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 560 ✭✭✭markomuscle


    That could be misconstrued as a compliment, muscle man.

    you'll have to explain that one? I had to google what 'misconstrued' meant by the way :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,876 ✭✭✭Scortho


    If the woman offers to pay on the first date, you know she's a keeper!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    you'll have to explain that one? I had to google what 'misconstrued' meant by the way :rolleyes:

    I felt uneasy with the general sense of the whole thing.:rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    I have to laugh at him sometimes, Id ask does he want anything in the shop and he'd say his wallet is at home, and Im just looking at him like :confused:

    As if he wouldnt get them for me!

    Ah now I've had him "forget" a few times, but it always balances out in fairness :)

    I like it as a way to socialise, means you are never going somewhere you can't afford.
    Scortho wrote: »
    If the woman offers to pay on the first date, you know she's a keeper!

    Not only did I do that*, for our fifth anniversary, he is getting a new watch, and having his car valeted inside and out, and getting a handsfree system :D

    *I have a small appetite and on that date ate little, so he poo pooed me paying, the dual system came in shortly after :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,876 ✭✭✭Scortho


    Stheno wrote: »


    Not only did I do that, for our fifth anniversary, he is getting a new watch, and having his car valeted inside and out, and getting a handsfree system :D


    I feckin know! :mad:

    Question is, what's stheno getting? Knee job!:pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭IvaBigWun


    Hmmm general rule is dates should be split 50:50. But if you ask a girl out for dinner then she might expect you to pay, even if previous dates were 50:50


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,391 ✭✭✭Mysteriouschic


    The man usually wants to pay. Everytime I've offered to give money towards it the man still wants to pay. I actually wouldn't mind paying for myself just the man always insists on paying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,943 ✭✭✭wonderfulname


    Can someone tell me why that on a date, a man is the one who's expected to pay, drive, etc?? I'm not saying we all don't already know. But I would just like it be bluntly put out in the open for what it is for once. It would be interesting to see if people have the same.. or different reasons for it.

    Last week were you not claiming to solely approach women in nightclubs, in a manner I'd like to imagine similar to Neil from The Inbetweeners, and have never found any success?

    How can you suddenly know all about dating?

    I call shenanigans.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Scortho wrote: »
    I feckin know! :mad:

    Question is, what's stheno getting? Knee job!:pac:

    A gift of my choosing :p

    I'm evil to buy for so I either send him a list that he picks from or pointedly say I'd like something but am too scabby to pay for it :D

    It works, apart from the time I wanted a tweezermans tweezers, and he went into boots looking for a man tweezers :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Smidge


    Aww Jesus, not another Friday night misery thread in the vein of......

    Women are beatches, moneygrabbers, gold diggers, frigid, teases, stuck up yada yada.

    Rule of thumb
    If you are the "askee" you pay for the date otherwise it's not a date!!!
    It's just two people agreeing to eat at the same place at the same time :rolleyes:
    And where the feckin hell is the romance in that?

    God, have people gotten that cheap that they want to ask someone out but when the do they moan about it???

    Put in some effort ffs.
    You have the whole rest of your lives to split everything down the middle and believe me there is no damn romance in that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭srm23


    OP the idea is that you pay for the dinner, drinks etc and then they "owe" you something at the end of night ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Amprodude


    Usually she pays me back with good service. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    because women are as tight as a bodybuilders t-shirt, especially irish women

    Do people really believe this sexist crap? Jeez.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Amprodude


    because women are as tight as a bodybuilders t-shirt, especially irish women

    And some women are tight but right in other departments. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 560 ✭✭✭markomuscle


    Do people really believe this sexist crap? Jeez.

    well most women i know are, if it's any consolation i'm stingy as well


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Smidge


    Do people really believe this sexist crap? Jeez.

    I like to believe he meant the "good" kind of tight :D;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,876 ✭✭✭Scortho


    Stheno wrote: »
    A gift of my choosing :p

    I'm evil to buy for so I either send him a list that he picks from or pointedly say I'd like something but am too scabby to pay for it :D

    It works, apart from the time I wanted a tweezermans tweezers, and he went into boots looking for a man tweezers :D

    Tweezers???
    He should have bought you a teng socket set!:P

    I know the feeling. Every year I walk around town thinking what do I buy her! :mad:
    Apparently she's the same so it's all fine


    Op split the bill 50:50. And don't be expecting anything after either.
    If that's the case feck the dinner and go to coppers instead.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 560 ✭✭✭markomuscle


    Smidge wrote: »
    I like to believe he meant the "good" kind of tight :D;)

    where i live the other meaning for 'tight' is 'tough' like a 'tough guy' so a 'tough girl'?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Smidge


    where i live the other meaning for 'tight' is 'tough' like a 'tough guy' so a 'tough girl'?

    Eh, no..
    You've missed my insinuation there.

    If I cant elude to a man what a good kind of tight in a woman is well..


    feck:(


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