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did you do any reseeding this year?

  • 27-09-2013 6:10pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭


    too lazy to add a poll:D:D:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    Around 30% of the farm but some of that was coming back from tillage. Probably 25% to do next year. Last of the tillage and a few wet areas that should have been done this year but cashflow didn't allow it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 565 ✭✭✭Marooned75


    4 acresish would have done more but stocking level dictates amount to do and cost but results looking good so far done three weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 343 ✭✭feartuath


    5 acres approx ,will try to reseed all paddocks in the next few years.
    I saw bog land that you could hardly walk last year drained and seeded.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭yellow50HX


    Did about 7ac this year, under sown barley with hayseed, cut twice as silage and some nice after grass on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭severeoversteer


    6 percent of the farm , ploughed , power harrow and seed,

    wasn't happy with what the contractor called a ''one pass'' seeder

    it was just a power harrow with an apv spinner spreading seed on the ground after it ! seed not covered by soil at all just left on surface !

    annoys me, he had it seeded by time I got there, granted yes it grew but theres better ways to drill seed,

    I sowed a garden lawn the same day and it was an inch and a half high before there was even signs of the fields germinating.

    thinking of getting my own seed drill with coulters and the works, that I could mount on a power harrow like this
    http://www.donedeal.ie/otherfarmmachinery-for-sale/sulky-3m-air-drill/5529201


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭stanflt


    6 percent of the farm , ploughed , power harrow and seed,

    wasn't happy with what the contractor called a ''one pass'' seeder

    it was just a power harrow with an apv spinner spreading seed on the ground after it ! seed not covered by soil at all just left on surface !

    annoys me, he had it seeded by time I got there, granted yes it grew but theres better ways to drill seed,

    I sowed a garden lawn the same day and it was an inch and a half high before there was even signs of the fields germinating.

    thinking of getting my own seed drill with coulters and the works, that I could mount on a power harrow like this
    http://www.donedeal.ie/otherfarmmachinery-for-sale/sulky-3m-air-drill/5529201

    40 acres of new ground that was historically tillage ground


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭Juniorhurler


    23 acres out of wheat and is sown two weeks. Coming up nicely now. Will mow this next summer for silage as its away from the home block and with any growth in the spring will be able to afford ten acres for a spring reseed off the traditional silage ground and then the rest of that block next fall. Wait for a bad year and my plans going down the drain now!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 826 ✭✭✭ABlur


    11 acres or 25% of a farm I bought. Had never been reseeded in living memory. Planted 4 weeks and Im well impressed. Used heavy disc harrow, power harrowed with Fiona seeder on powerharrow. Wonder is it too early to do post emergence spray at 4 weeks?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭6480


    its the first year in ages i didnt bother to do any ,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    20% of the farm here, will try do another 20% at different stages for each of the next 2/3 yrs and that will be the most of the farm done.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭blonde10


    ya done 7 acres,sowed barley grass seed and peas,cut and wrapped it just before the seed came full head while it was still cheesey,,people tellin me biggest trouble with that is keepin rats away from the bales .....but so far so good not bothering with them..any one know what kind of dmd can I expect from it , any one ever do this....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    hope to get in around a half ton, good few wet spots and corners sorted this year that were waiting for the last few years along with a bit of reclaiming of wet land, given the weather I hope to get some more in after maize in 10 days time. About half in continuous grass and half in rotation. If anything we are reseeding too often and is costing us allot in yield IMV but such is life with a rotation


    I dont understand the craze with reseeding. many people think if a farmer isnt doing allot of it they are not with the game at all. Its a bit of a fashion statement for the last few years to say you reseeded large % of your farm. There is a serious yield drop in year one of any reseed. Each field should be assessed on a case by case basis and just because a field hasnt being reseeded in 12 years doesnt mean there is anything wrong with it. Considering year one of a reseed with result in 50% of yield being lost that year, the less you have to reseed the better and the longer you can keep PRG in a sward the more money you make. I see plenty of reseeding done and its a waste of time as it just isnt going to be looked after. If you are shy of the bag muck, forget it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    Got in 20 acres here, 16 of silage ground that was riddled with weeds and old grass due to the last seed sown having clover in it and leaving it so open, and 4 acres of grazing block which hadn't been done since 82 i'm told. Reseeding as much as I can here because the last time it was done on any ground was 15 years ago, it was well managed it that time with the ryegrass still being present to some extent but the diference in yield and recovery is unreal, plus solids and yields both improve


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    12 acres reseeded here. 9 of that was wet bogland that was drained with connacht agri pipes - we were never able to travel it with a tractor in 20 years. We were able to cross it with tractor and slurry tanker 6 weeks after draining.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 892 ✭✭✭grange mac


    2 acres of what was formerly waste n bog...had seen 2 different guys get hymacs stuck in it over the years as ground was like jelly....once you broke through down you went...hav seen boom go down 3/4 of its height and no end in sight.
    Water coming into cab was the time to leave it....but this wear we now have bout 5 feet of solid turf!!! Will hold up cows but no agri gear...

    Great to finally win back the field.

    I broke rock and lined open drain with terram and filed em up so wont close in ...water flowing away out through the stone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    8% done here. 20% last year. 12% ear marked for next year.
    Seeded 5 ha three weeks ago just peeping now, planted lawn same day will mow tomorrow. Some difference but good germination in the paddock so not concerned, only concern is that I may not get weed spray done


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭KCTK


    25 acres done here, cows started first grazing of it last Saturday, some difference on yield, up almost 3 ltrs per cow and they were getting loads of grass prior to going in to it, field was drained before reseeding and has two burst ups now again just beside where daring would have started, gota love springs.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    delaval wrote: »
    only concern is that I may not get weed spray done

    I done a field about 6 weeks ago and I have never seen weed (fat hen) to come so strong, it was so aggressive I had to graze and then mow it, as spraying when it needed it the grass was too weak, going to let it green up for 10 days and spray then. Far from ideal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 453 ✭✭gazahayes


    yellow50HX wrote: »
    Did about 7ac this year, under sown barley with hayseed, cut twice as silage and some nice after grass on it.

    How did you sow that to get 2 cuts off it have a 9 acre field that could do with it next year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭leg wax


    25 acres done this year,10 last year,65 acres to go.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,534 ✭✭✭SomethingElse


    reilig wrote: »
    12 acres reseeded here. 9 of that was wet bogland that was drained with connacht agri pipes - we were never able to travel it with a tractor in 20 years. We were able to cross it with tractor and slurry tanker 6 weeks after draining.

    How far down did you go with the pipes?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    How far down did you go with the pipes?

    3 to 4 foot. All pipes are sitting on solid daub.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭severeoversteer


    what is the best post emergence spray to use?
    there is in no clover in the grass


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    12 acres roughly 12% of farm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭stanflt


    30 acres of stone picking done- only around 8 to go


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭jersey101


    Did 15 acres on home farm. Also sowed 16 acres of forage crops to be reseeded in spring. And did 45 acres of leased ground that was in stubble. Another 30 acres to do there next year havent decided whether ill put in a hybrid yet or a normal silage grass. was some drain on the pocket doing all that this year. Hopefully it will pay me back over the few years


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 693 ✭✭✭slippy wicket


    6 acres in the spring, one sacrifice paddock from the winter, plus a field that was reclaimed from a wood 30 years ago. Never ploughed so got a neighbour to do a job on it with his forestry clearance machine, chopped up sod, stones and and old stumps and made a perfect seedbed. 250-300€ /acre so only suitable for a small area.

    Just finished reseeding 14 acres of cow paddocks today. Last done over 20 years ago so not before time.
    Used agritech grass seeds at an acre pack and a quarter per acre. Maybe it's madness, but time will tell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    none this year 80 acres the 3 years before that, only reaping the benefits this year from them. Ill do 10-15 acres nxt year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭aidanki


    whats everyones solution for stony ground ?

    get the stones raked ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭stanflt


    aidanki wrote: »
    whats everyones solution for stony ground ?

    get the stones raked ?


    manual labour- ive been wearing black and white strip overalls for the past week


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    stanflt wrote: »
    manual labour- ive been wearing black and white strip overalls for the past week
    wil swap with you i will pick stones and you can power wash


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭stanflt


    whelan1 wrote: »
    wil swap with you i will pick stones and you can power wash


    i prefer the fresh air than ****e in my eyes and mouth

    had a month of washing earlier in the year


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    stanflt wrote: »
    i prefer the fresh air than ****e in my eyes and mouth

    had a month of washing earlier in the year
    finished slatted sheds today onto 4 bay cubicle shed now.... i will drink a slab of bulmers when finished


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭stanflt


    whelan1 wrote: »
    finished slatted sheds today onto 4 bay cubicle shed now.... i will drink a slab of bulmers when finished


    youll have earned it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    stanflt wrote: »
    youll have earned it
    yup.... :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    aidanki wrote: »
    whats everyones solution for stony ground ?

    get the stones raked ?

    direct drill it, or decent guy on a land leveller and dont use a powerharrow. What people do be doing picking stones is beyond me and we work some very stoney ground but never leave the cab when stone picking. if front loader cant pick it, landleveller will get it

    I direct drilled a field for a guy 18 days ago and I charged him way too little as he is raving about the job as it was a stoney field. Could have easily got double the money out of him. Im too honest for my own good

    Sorry Whelan, but powerwashing is another job that I cant understand why people spend so much time at, have you not go any better things to be doing. I dont find it helps one jot in disease prevention especially in cattle/cows sheds/yard. different if the place is enclosed like a piggery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭severeoversteer


    I never powerwash the cattle trailer :P

    there I said it !

    sure you'd be full time washing it if I washed it every time I use it


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,753 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    7 acres reseeded this year, undersown with barley.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 592 ✭✭✭maxxuumman



    Sorry Whelan, but powerwashing is another job that I cant understand why people spend so much time at, have you not go any better things to be doing. I dont find it helps one jot in disease prevention especially in cattle/cows sheds/yard. different if the place is enclosed like a piggery.

    Ahh, it fine for you, your bullocks with their dried up boll0xes. Different with the business end of a cow, you want somewhere nice and clean and comfy to put it.

    Youre bang on with the land leveler. A handy man on it, there should be no need to pick a stone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    maxxuumman wrote: »
    Ahh, it fine for you, your bullocks with their dried up boll0xes. Different with the business end of a cow, you want somewhere nice and clean and comfy to put it.

    But putting lime and paper/straw on the cubicle mats everyday will do this. no need to powerwash the wall your cow is looking all day long chewing the cud

    maxxuumman wrote: »
    Youre bang on with the land leveler. A handy man on it, there should be no need to pick a stone.

    We should keep that quite as I love waving while driving past neighbors picking stones for endless days.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    But putting lime and paper/straw on the cubicle mats everyday will do this. no need to powerwash the wall your cow is looking all day long chewing the cud




    We should keep that quite as I love waving while driving past neighbors picking stones for endless days.
    Ah! but its a bit late when faced with a mastitis outbreak in the middle of winter to say " i should have powerwashed and disenfected the sheds"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    whelan1 wrote: »
    Ah! but its a bit late when faced with a mastitis outbreak in the middle of winter to say " i should have powerwashed and disenfected the sheds"

    Disinfect today let in cows reinfected, simples, purely aesthetic even though I spent a few days at it, calf pens and calving area


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭Sami23


    maxxuumman wrote: »
    Youre bang on with the land leveler. A handy man on it, there should be no need to pick a stone.

    So whats the secret to gathering stones with the leveller cause when I'm levelling and you catch a stone in it all you do is leave hollows where the stone is getting dragged along :confused::confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭Sharpshooter82


    whelan1 wrote: »
    wil swap with you i will pick stones and you can power wash
    you cant still be powerwashing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 498 ✭✭agriman27


    Sami23 wrote: »
    So whats the secret to gathering stones with the leveller cause when I'm levelling and you catch a stone in it all you do is leave hollows where the stone is getting dragged along :confused::confused:

    I'd be curious to hear the land leveller method of sorting the stones as well :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    you cant still be powerwashing
    yup heading back out now for an hour, then back in and give kids a bath and then maybe a glass of wine


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭Sharpshooter82


    whelan1 wrote: »
    yup heading back out now for an hour, then back in and give kids a bath and then maybe a glass of wine
    powerwash and give kids a bath in the same sentence....... multi tasking


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭jersey101


    powerwash and give kids a bath in the same sentence....... multi tasking

    stick the brush on the ebd of the washer and give em a scrub. Do a grand job ha


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭Sharpshooter82


    jersey101 wrote: »
    stick the brush on the ebd of the washer and give em a scrub. Do a grand job ha
    and the turbo nozzle for them tough stains


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭Midlandsman80


    do people generally put down different seed mix for grazing vrs silage land? would the silage mix be fit for 3 cuts and some grazing then? why is each type better at its intended use?


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