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Undertaker's Wrestlemania opponent

  • 25-09-2013 11:31pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 296 ✭✭


    Saw on the 'sheets that Ryback might be the one who gets a go at the streak, this is just early speculation and it hinges on how Ryback's current push goes.

    Me personally I would love to see to him go against Sting, I know it wouldn't be the best match, but with it being in New Orleans and considering the characters Undertaker and Sting play I think it would be cool, I know it's probably not going to happen.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭IanMc666


    Last I heard they had Lesnar in mind for him.

    Would love to see him against Sting as well for the nostalgia.

    Gotta wonder how the injuries are holding up though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 296 ✭✭LOTD


    His injuries must play a big part in choosing an opponent for him and still be a good match, can't see a good match with Ryback unless their is some kind of gimmick to it, plus Lesnar style is physical as hell so that could be a big factor as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Taker v Cena, its absurd they have not done it yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,019 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    Taker v Cena, its absurd they have not done it yet.

    Yes I think it has to be Cena, would love to see Jericho or Sheamus myself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭Ridley


    Yep, should be Cena.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,997 ✭✭✭Mr.Saturn


    It has to be Cena, he's the only credible threat. The air of Undertaker on the cusp of retirement, and Cena being able to take the heat the win'd bring would make for a fantastic atmosphere come next April.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    Lesnar, its a bit now or never as the longer you leave it the more banged up he may be before/after.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 culbaire666


    The Wyatts but it will probally be Cena


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,888 ✭✭✭Charisteas


    Hopefully Lesnar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,953 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    LOTD wrote: »
    Saw on the 'sheets that Ryback might be the one who gets a go at the streak, this is just early speculation and it hinges on how Ryback's current push goes.

    Me personally I would love to see to him go against Sting, I know it wouldn't be the best match, but with it being in New Orleans and considering the characters Undertaker and Sting play I think it would be cool, I know it's probably not going to happen.
    Ryback? Oh my god no. Would love Lesnar but can see the obvious reasons why it wouldn't be. My money is on Cena, as well as creating an obvious box office hit, it would keep him out of the title picture upon his return, allowing Bryan to have a title match with someone else.


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,390 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    It's WMXXX It has to be a massive marquee match. Cena is the only marquee opponent left for taker IMO.

    It honestly leaves doubt if taker would win or not!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    Cena is the only person with a realistic chance of victory. Punk had no chance this year and it showed. Ryback would have no chance, Lesnar would have no chance, only Cena would.

    Add in that taker could call it a day at any time, and Cena makes a tonne of sense.

    31 could be Bryan if he is kept strong and taker is still around.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,933 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    for a long long time I've been of The belief that it would be Undertaker vs Cena at WM XXX

    if not Lesnar does make sense although I believe the original plan was supposed to be for Rock vs Lesnar

    as a backup incase plans change with Cena i'd imagine the Shield could be somehow involved against him considering how it is still referenced that they took him out and are kayfabe the reason why he isn't about atm this time.

    Personally I dont see it being Ryback, especially not at such a massive Wrestlemania. They will want a big name for the streak this time around and someone who could believably break the streak and even if Ryback has a massive next several months I just dont see it being enough to put him in that position.

    I do think this will be for the WWE title despite some saying it would mean Cena wouldn't need to be in the title match. Cena is the main event in the WWE's eyes especially from a advertising and merchandising POV, The WWE Title should be defended in the last match (main event) of the PPV in most fans / critics eyes & it can be damn hard for anyone to follow (or get as good a reaction from the crowd) an Undertaker match at Mania let alone an Undertaker vs John Cena match. combine all 3 and the biggest possible main event for the WWEs biggest show in years would be Cena vs The Undertaker in the main event for The WWE Title.

    this part probably doesent need a response as "the turn" is always speculated but...
    Bring Cena back after his (injury) hiatus to help the new face of the WWE Daniel Bryan against the corporate powers that be. Have them essentially form this generations super powers but then Cena screws Bryan and turns heel. There can be only one face of the WWE, one champion nay one corporate champion and that is the Merch Machine and the guy who as CM Punk said has become a dynasty in the WWE John Cena. That Guy faces old, part time Undertaker at WMXXX and people will believe the streak might actually be broken, but also who better to stand up to the HHH backed corporate Cena who has defeated (by dubious means to keep em strong) Bryan / Punk etc since returning than the voice of the WWE, the dressing room leader, the cornerstone of the company and all the other monikers that have been attached to him, The Undertaker.

    of course if you go back one month you would probably see me saying that Bryan should win the Rumble and fight for the title in Mania's main event, but in my defense I didn't think Bryan would be already a 2 time WWE champion by now at that point so thought him finally winning the big one after a prolonged chase would be the ideal big mania moment then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,407 ✭✭✭✭justsomebloke


    if it's taker V Cena do they have enough big matches left to have a 'BIG' Wrestlemania 30


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,933 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    if it's taker V Cena do they have enough big matches left to have a 'BIG' Wrestlemania 30

    depends on the other maybes

    for instance both Rock (vs Lesnar) and SCSA (vs CM Punk) have been rumoured as having one last match at the PPV and obviously both of those would be massive matches to go along with Cena/Taker plus you would still have room for something like D.Bryan vs HHH before you try and fill out the undercard.

    another runour is that Goldberg would like a return so that his kid could get to see him wrestle and him vs Ryback has been mentioned (much more likely than Ryback vs Taker imo)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,837 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Loughc wrote: »
    It's WMXXX It has to be a massive marquee match. Cena is the only marquee opponent left for taker IMO.

    It honestly leaves doubt if taker would win or not!

    As it is WMXXX it has to be Ice Cube or Vin Diesel to go one on one with Taker, really.

    Or maybe both.

    Triple X Triple Threat at Wrestlemania Triple X with Special Guest Ref Triple H.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    I hear Hogan's TNA contract is up shortly :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,466 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    Loughc wrote: »
    It's WMXXX It has to be a massive marquee match. Cena is the only marquee opponent left for taker IMO.

    It honestly leaves doubt if taker would win or not!

    it doesn't really.

    but it leaves just enough that you might buy at least one of the near-falls, which is one of the main aims of a Taker match at WM at this stage.

    it's why HHH's Tombstone at WM 27 was so effective. there was that doubt in your mind, purely because of HHH's backstage reputation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭Machismo Fan


    Triple X Triple Threat at Wrestlemania Triple X with Special Guest Ref Triple H.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    Actually think it would be a good idea to have it be for the WWE title. Cena defending against Undertaker. Undertaker on his last legs, also being a part timer so unlikely to hold the title, Cena being the golden boy, imagine the tension when Cena hits the AA! It would be great.

    Personally, I'd like:
    WWE Championship
    Cena defends vs Undertaker

    Bryan vs Triple H

    Punk vs Austin

    Lesnar w/ Heyman vs babyface Ryback

    Rock vs Sandow

    Assuming Rock and Austin are up for it.

    Problem now becomes the World title holder/Royal Rumble winner, unless Triple H takes the title at some point. Assuming that doesnt happen, have Ambrose win it at the Rumble, while Cody wins the actual Rumble match. It doesnt need to be a massive match considering the rest of the line up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,888 ✭✭✭Charisteas


    On the semi-related subject of Austin, this week on a podcast he again played down his chances of wrestling again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,953 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Why the fook is Ryback so high up in so many people's estimations for Wrestlemania? He hasn't even had a match at the last few PPVs. Pure and utter ****ehawk.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 296 ✭✭LOTD


    CSF wrote: »
    Why the fook is Ryback so high up in so many people's estimations for Wrestlemania? He hasn't even had a match at the last few PPVs. Pure and utter ****ehawk.

    It just what's been reported. WWE management seem pretty keen on him, plus this is only early speculation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 732 ✭✭✭Reebrock


    Undertaker vs Brock or Cena it would seem to me. I really can't picture anything else at this point. No disrespect to Ryback, but nobody is buying that...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,953 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    LOTD wrote: »
    It just what's been reported. WWE management seem pretty keen on him, plus this is only early speculation.
    They seem to have for ages but they don't seem to understand that nobody else seems to be, and that there are many like me who absolutely despise every minute the chap is on TV.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    I'll be honest, I wouldn't mind seeing Ryback vs Taker IF Heyman is still involved. If anyone can talk Ryback up as a potential threat to Taker, it's Heyman.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    Taker v Cena, its absurd they have not done it yet.

    It's a HUGE match, like Taker's biggest possible match. I think they'll save that for 25-0 & Taker's last match. That said, WM30 is a big number. I think they have enough star power to hold off on such a massive match though. At the moment I think Lesnar's the top choice. Of course it would mean FAR MORE if they didn't job out Lesnar to both Cena and H, Lesnar should be unbeaten. But it'll still be great. Even though it's fake I wanna see Lesnar school Taker and his bulls*** pseudo-MMA offense.

    I think Taker's still got a few years left in him, so Sheamo should get a go. I'd mention Barrett but he's closer to the exit than he is to Taker. Ryback is actually quite old and useless in the ring, I can see WWE giving up on him over the next year. If Rock'd consider a once-off that'd be huge too, although I didn't enjoy their matches in the Attitude Era.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    imo Jericho should be given a shot


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 296 ✭✭LOTD


    I think with Undertaker's streak they need to do something fresh with it, I liked his match with CM Punk, but he was a bit out of shape.

    As far as the Ryback rumour goes, Ryback won't be Taker's Mania opponent given the calibre of Taker's last 6 or 7 Mania matches Ryback can't produce that kind of standard. What surprises me is that he has been wrestling for ten years, his ring work is for the most part terrible. I taught he got caught out badly in the matches he had with Jericho, he looked incredibly poor. At least with the squash matches or the gimmick matches he had he could hide his flaws better


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭brianregan09


    I like to see him to take on the shield on his own it would be fresh i think


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 296 ✭✭LOTD


    Yeah would love to see him against the shield, there stuff after Wrestlemania was great.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Crazy thought but given Jim Ross's status with WWE if Jim ever comes back to call an Undertaker match it could be a healthy tip off that it is Taker's last.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,398 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    jaykhunter wrote: »
    It's a HUGE match, like Taker's biggest possible match. I think they'll save that for 25-0 & Taker's last match. That said, WM30 is a big number. I think they have enough star power to hold off on such a massive match though. At the moment I think Lesnar's the top choice. Of course it would mean FAR MORE if they didn't job out Lesnar to both Cena and H, Lesnar should be unbeaten. But it'll still be great. Even though it's fake I wanna see Lesnar school Taker and his bulls*** pseudo-MMA offense.

    I think Taker's still got a few years left in him, so Sheamo should get a go. I'd mention Barrett but he's closer to the exit than he is to Taker. Ryback is actually quite old and useless in the ring, I can see WWE giving up on him over the next year. If Rock'd consider a once-off that'd be huge too, although I didn't enjoy their matches in the Attitude Era.

    Taker/Lesnar in a lions den match....although a lot of the impact of the gimmick would be lost when Lesnar refuses to let Taker pretend punch him in the face incase he accidentally connects.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    jaykhunter wrote: »
    Even though it's fake I wanna see Lesnar school Taker and his bulls*** pseudo-MMA offense.
    If Rock'd consider a once-off that'd be huge too, although I didn't enjoy their matches in the Attitude Era.

    Always enjoyed Taker & Rock myself that Triple Threat with Angle was hugely rewarding at that time.
    You just know Taker has a Robe, Gloves & MMA shorts in his closet for the occasion. Bet he has his own theme picked out & all. Doubt he`ll go down to the ring with Shoguns:


    But i`d mark if he came out to this:


    with Steven Seagal too......obviously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    Taker v Cena, its absurd they have not done it yet.


    The man who never loses at wrestlemania vs well, the man who never loses period :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭Dubliner28


    Cant see the streak going to 25-0 but you never know. Being WM 30 it has to be a massive massive fight. It has to be Cena. Rock has already signed up so its hard to say at this point who he'll fight. Would love a Punk/Bryan fight(not for the title)


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,390 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Dubliner28 wrote: »
    Cant see the streak going to 25-0 but you never know. Being WM 30 it has to be a massive massive fight. It has to be Cena. Rock has already signed up so its hard to say at this point who he'll fight. Would love a Punk/Bryan fight(not for the title)


    Really? Where? I thought the Rock was 50/50 about doing WM30. As far as I Know he hasn't signed anything yet, and especially after getting injured last year I think he'll be inclined to sit this one and prob all other WM's out from now on.

    If he appears at it I've a feeling it will be in a NON-Wrestling capacity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭Ridley


    SlickRic wrote: »
    it doesn't really.

    but it leaves just enough that you might buy at least one of the near-falls, which is one of the main aims of a Taker match at WM at this stage.

    it's why HHH's Tombstone at WM 27 was so effective. there was that doubt in your mind, purely because of HHH's backstage reputation.

    Cena pulling Taker back into the middle of the ring to slap on the STF...
    LOTD wrote: »
    I think with Undertaker's streak they need to do something fresh with it, I liked his match with CM Punk, but he was a bit out of shape.

    It's a pity that the story of Punk ruining the streak out of spite for his losing the WWE title got overshadowed by the Paul Bearer stuff. Was a great idea.


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